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DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 06:54 AM Jun 2014

can schools be democratic, and if not what replaces them?

This is inspired by this:

http://www.alternet.org/story/151850/8_reasons_young_americans_don%27t_fight_back%3A_how_the_us_crushed_youth_resistance?paging=off¤t_page=1#bookmark

in particular this:

"Schools That Educate for Compliance and Not for Democracy. Upon accepting the New York City Teacher of the Year Award on January 31, 1990, John Taylor Gatto upset many in attendance by stating: “The truth is that schools don’t really teach anything except how to obey orders. This is a great mystery to me because thousands of humane, caring people work in schools as teachers and aides and administrators, but the abstract logic of the institution overwhelms their individual contributions.” A generation ago, the problem of compulsory schooling as a vehicle for an authoritarian society was widely discussed, but as this problem has gotten worse, it is seldom discussed.

The nature of most classrooms, regardless of the subject matter, socializes students to be passive and directed by others, to follow orders, to take seriously the rewards and punishments of authorities, to pretend to care about things they don’t care about, and that they are impotent to affect their situation. A teacher can lecture about democracy, but schools are essentially undemocratic places, and so democracy is not what is instilled in students. Jonathan Kozol in The Night Is Dark and I Am Far from Home focused on how school breaks us from courageous actions. Kozol explains how our schools teach us a kind of “inert concern” in which “caring”—in and of itself and without risking the consequences of actual action—is considered “ethical.” School teaches us that we are “moral and mature” if we politely assert our concerns, but the essence of school—its demand for compliance—teaches us not to act in a friction-causing manner. "

So, many believe schools do harm, and I can agree. However, if this is to be said, how do you actually educate people? Children do not want to learn many times,. especially if religons and parentys are perfectly fine with the kid growing up dumb, because it will mean they are just like them. However, society cannot afford that. So, if not school, which admittedly does have to force people to do things they do not want to do, what?

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can schools be democratic, and if not what replaces them? (Original Post) DonCoquixote Jun 2014 OP
, blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #1
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