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mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 10:08 AM Jun 2014

I am non American . But if I were I would no vote for Hillary. This Is why.

I say that if I could vote for her i woulnt. I Would even cast a third left party ballot or an empty one. Why?
Hate my after that but Ill sau it.
I dont like she is so friendly with Bushes policies. Father and son.
I dont like her behaviour towards John Kerry back in 2004 and even after
I dont like her insinuations towards Obama supporters back in 2008
I dont like as SoS she didnt taked risks to keep her seat hot for 2016 race.
I dont like her record in behalf on corporations like Walmart


So even if I had good memories of her as First Lady or if I agree she did powerfull things at State for worldwide womens issues..... I would not votd for her.

I prefer to say this that to betray myself in a fake support.

Ye we need a woman as next prez. But Its not Hillary. IR IS ELIZABETH WARREN .OR SOMEONE LIKE HER. A luberal yo the core. Honest and pro open govt.

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I am non American . But if I were I would no vote for Hillary. This Is why. (Original Post) mylye2222 Jun 2014 OP
Get Real Frances Jun 2014 #1
No I know ever her is better than any teabaggers mylye2222 Jun 2014 #6
the era was different. mylye2222 Jun 2014 #12
"Ye we need a woman as next prez." NCTraveler Jun 2014 #2
Are you for real? farmer86 Jun 2014 #3
well since you don't vote, it means very little lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #4
+1 nt Javaman Jun 2014 #7
Thank you for sharing.. busterbrown Jun 2014 #5
This type of political naivette reminds me of this The Onion article: FSogol Jun 2014 #8
k/r Don't forget the TPP and TTIP nationalize the fed Jun 2014 #9
Presidents set policy, SOS enact them. Beacool Jun 2014 #17
so since you can't vote... Javaman Jun 2014 #10
I didnt said everything she did at State was wrong mylye2222 Jun 2014 #11
Even given all those points ... surrealAmerican Jun 2014 #13
I said that because of my home political culture. mylye2222 Jun 2014 #14
Just wanted to Add.... NCTraveler Jun 2014 #15
Funny to see your name calling at me mylye2222 Jun 2014 #16
Please elaborate on my "problems with foreigners posting at DU" NCTraveler Jun 2014 #18
Just a POW of mine mylye2222 Jun 2014 #19
Because your reasons are an absolute joke. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #20
Screw em, they love the opinions of foreign nationals that they like. TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #23
I think your english is letting you down... joeybee12 Jun 2014 #21
The tricks coming from Hillary team were really biggest. mylye2222 Jun 2014 #22

Frances

(8,531 posts)
1. Get Real
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 10:13 AM
Jun 2014

You sound like the people I canvassed back in 2000 who made the same arguments about Al Gore. I can guarantee you that thousands of injured soldiers would not have the injuries that they have today had Gore won so decisively that the Supreme Court could not have given the presidency to George Bush.

Your arguments sound like those of someone trying to get a teabagger elected.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
6. No I know ever her is better than any teabaggers
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 10:30 AM
Jun 2014

BUT Democratic party counts more better persons whi can get nominated. Sorry.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
12. the era was different.
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 10:44 AM
Jun 2014

And not liking her didnt dtopped me to back clash Rovian attacks on her. On Left Action FB page precicely. Thats to différents things.
I dont like dirty tricks policies.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
2. "Ye we need a woman as next prez."
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 10:17 AM
Jun 2014

Why? That right there pretty much negates everything you say as being petty.

"I dont like she is so friendly with Bushes policies. Father and son. " that shows you are uneducated with respect to American polotics.

"I dont like as SoS she didnt taked risks to keep her seat hot for 2016 race. " WTF does that even mean?

"I dont like her insinuations towards Obama supporters back in 2008 " Petty and pathetic.

"I dont like her behaviour towards John Kerry back in 2004 and even after" A little less petty and pathetic, but petty and pathetic none the less.



FSogol

(45,356 posts)
8. This type of political naivette reminds me of this The Onion article:
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 10:32 AM
Jun 2014

"Report: Everyone In Hollywood Great Friends
Oct 26, 2007

LOS ANGELES—A study released today by the University of California, Los Angeles is sending shockwaves through the social, behavioral, and publicity sciences, after finding that everyone in Hollywood is close personal friends with everyone else in Hollywood.
Cameron Diaz, George Clooney, Julia Roberts, and Denzel Washingon all gather for a game of Monopoly at Tony Hopkins' place, like they do every Sunday.

"The evidence shows that our nation's show-business capital is a town of virtually boundless goodwill and camaraderie, where the backstabbing, ego-rivalry, and grudge-holding common to the rest of society do not exist," said UCLA sociology professor Gina Carlisle, lead author of the five-year, 700-page study. "The entire region is a veritable utopia of deep, abiding interpersonal affection and mutual respect.""

Whole article here:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/report-everyone-in-hollywood-great-friends,2311/

nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
9. k/r Don't forget the TPP and TTIP
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 10:33 AM
Jun 2014




In November, then-Secretary Hillary Clinton explained the rationale for the TTIP: “Perhaps the most important question in the years ahead will be whether we invest as much energy into our economic relationship as we have put into our security relationship. At a time when countries are measuring their influence as much by the size of their economies as by the might of their militaries, we have to realize the untapped potential of the transatlantic market. This is as much a strategic imperative as an economic one. After all, so many of the things we do around the world depend on our economic strength, from providing defense to investing in emerging markets, to aiding development, to responding to crises. And there may be no greater threat to our security and our transatlantic partnership than a weak economic future on one or both sides of the Atlantic.” Hillary Clinton, 11/29/12
http://nsnetwork.org/transatlantic-trade-and-the-foundations-of-american-power/

Beacool

(30,244 posts)
17. Presidents set policy, SOS enact them.
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 12:26 PM
Jun 2014

That goes for the flack that Kerry gets too.

Take it up with the president.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
11. I didnt said everything she did at State was wrong
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 10:39 AM
Jun 2014

But I spoke on more personal behaviours. Why didnt she reopened the Middle East peace process? Why does she support Walmart while a Senator?
Its just. ... I see her little way too opportunistic. You know every of mt country s pundits right and left saw her zs a rockstar and zn Incredible ambitious woman. And by pundits I listen too zrz those from serious press as Le Monde Diplomatique or Courrier International or Politis.

surrealAmerican

(11,339 posts)
13. Even given all those points ...
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 11:20 AM
Jun 2014

... it still must depend on who she is running against. It's just too dangerous to have a republican as president, even a seriously flawed democrat is better.

Third parties in the US stand no chance in a presidential election, and only siphon votes from one or the other major party.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
14. I said that because of my home political culture.
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 11:27 AM
Jun 2014

We have 2 rounds presidencies. And third parties are numerous and had their places. Even empty ballot matters. Voting empty dodsnt mean you gave a pass to RW. as an example in 2007 I did vote for Royal because at the time the iswue wa to not send Sarkozy to Elysee. But in 2012 my first round vote went to Eva Joly the green partys candidate.... because I had no doubt Sarkozy would exit first. And more important she would had be the one who would have exposew Sarkozy s corruption during tenure. Even his attempt to by Diebold in US.
Eva Joly exposed in late 9)0s numerous scandal involving oil and prominent politicians

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
16. Funny to see your name calling at me
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 12:01 PM
Jun 2014

While others posters express the same feelings and are not labelled trolls. Fo you have problems with foreigners posting at DU?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
18. Please elaborate on my "problems with foreigners posting at DU"
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 01:32 PM
Jun 2014

Should be very interesting as there is NO WAY you can extrapolate that from my post.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
19. Just a POW of mine
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 01:35 PM
Jun 2014

I dont see so much hard responses at others DUers who explains why dont they support her. What about the implying that I dont have thé right to express myself since I cannot vote?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
20. Because your reasons are an absolute joke.
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 01:39 PM
Jun 2014

As I pointed out up thread. I listed the reasons why your argument is a joke. Pretty much just copy and pasted your op, as that is the joke. I also addressed what you are currently asking if you would have read. Others do it better. That at least garners them a little respect.

You still haven't elaborated on the question you asked of me. WTF do either of my replies have to do with you not being an American? I can't for the life of me figure out why you went in that direction. It was just on the tip of your tongue?

Many people here have made a great case for not voting for Hillary. Yours was petty and pathetic, as I clearly outlined up thread.

Others do it better.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
21. I think your english is letting you down...
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 01:44 PM
Jun 2014

I don't think that's your first language and it's confusing people.

That said, I don't like the way Obama and his supporters made insnuations about her in 2008...politics is dirty, and to think she's not clean while Obama is, is very naive.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
22. The tricks coming from Hillary team were really biggest.
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 02:30 PM
Jun 2014

The worst thing may not be her after all......but her team...... and nope sorry Obama didnt surroundered himself with tricker staffers.

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