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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 01:41 PM Jun 2014

Georgia Waffle House worker fatally shoots customer who refused to leave

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported that the dispute began when a woman who was with Mosley got into an altercation with the restaurant’s security guard.

“The girl got into it first with the security guard and they told her she had to leave the property,” said witness Ontray Haley to the Journal-Constitution. “So she left but the other two guys hung around and they told them they had to leave. The cook refused to serve them because they were getting unruly.”

The men threatened the cook, said Haley, then gunfire erupted.

“It occurred right at the counter,” he said. “It was just chaos; I was ducking for cover like everybody else. I looked up and I saw the guy in the floor, dead.”

This is the second fatal shooting in an Atlanta-area Waffle House in as many weeks.

Earlier this year, the Republican-dominated Georgia legislature passed the so-called “guns everywhere” law, which the NRA called “the most comprehensive pro-gun reform bill in state history.”

Under the new law, licensed gun owners are allowed to carry their weapons to church, restaurants and bars. It will automatically grant military personnel the right to carry firearms off duty, and the law allows citizens to carry weapons into government buildings.

The law does not go into effect, however, until July 1.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/13/georgia-waffle-house-worker-fatally-shoots-customer-who-refused-to-leave/
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Georgia Waffle House worker fatally shoots customer who refused to leave (Original Post) phantom power Jun 2014 OP
I guess they are "jumping the gun." immoderate Jun 2014 #1
Yep. Crazy jumped the gun. lonestarnot Jun 2014 #5
Waffle House has security guards? bullwinkle428 Jun 2014 #2
a lot of them do ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2014 #3
Fulton County is Atlanta. Not surprised a large metro area has security guards. dballance Jun 2014 #10
What did they used to do before they all became Big Dick With a Gun? nt valerief Jun 2014 #4
masturbated and dreamed of Big Dicks with guns n/t 2pooped2pop Jun 2014 #16
I seem to recall we used to call the cops gratuitous Jun 2014 #18
That's what I recall, but now everyone has a gun, cuz it's so much SAFER. nt valerief Jun 2014 #20
Goes into effect July 1? CanonRay Jun 2014 #6
The one place I felt truly safe in America. Thanks for nothin', NRA. Schema Thing Jun 2014 #7
Guns don't kill people, but Waffle Houses do!! madinmaryland Jun 2014 #8
And I thought "Scatterd, Covered, and Smothered" referred to the hash browns. dballance Jun 2014 #9
Waffle House, Eat and have your Duel Too. nt BootinUp Jun 2014 #11
The Florida Syndrome is creeping north LiberalEsto Jun 2014 #12
Only serving Saturday night specials after 3 am Bosonic Jun 2014 #13
This event changes nothing, as no lives of NRA leaders were in any way caused pain. Even SDjack Jun 2014 #14
No soup for you! 2pooped2pop Jun 2014 #15
stand ur ground defense? Liberal_in_LA Jun 2014 #17
Don't pick on the Waffle House Aerows Jun 2014 #19
Back in the 50s and early 60s on multiple trips to Florida Warpy Jun 2014 #21

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
3. a lot of them do
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 02:02 PM
Jun 2014

being a 24 hr establishment can mean some pretty nasty drunks among others from time to time.

sP

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
10. Fulton County is Atlanta. Not surprised a large metro area has security guards.
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 03:25 PM
Jun 2014

I'm originally from TN and I never saw an armed guard at a Waffle House when I lived in the South. I went to many, many Waffle Houses late at night/early morning drunk - like so many others. In TN and GA. We called it "Waffle Stomp" for some reason still unknown to me.

This was in the era before Columbine, before Timothy McVeigh, before mass shootings every other week. Sure, I know we were obnoxious drunks at the time. However, we still had at least the tiniest bit of respect for the employees that prevented us from attacking them in any physical way.

Sadly, those days are long over. I can certainly understand why, now, a Waffle House (24/7) would want to have security during the prime hours of unruly drunks showing up. I wouldn't be surprised if the security guard turns out to be an off-duty policeman or sheriff. That's pretty common to hire them for security. They are, after all, trained. I know some wonderful people who are LEO who do this for the extra money. They are sane, normal, and very cautious about using force. They are the rule, not the exception.

I'm very curious as to the details of how the situation escalated to a fatal shooting.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
18. I seem to recall we used to call the cops
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 05:43 PM
Jun 2014

It was no guarantee that someone wouldn't get shot anyway, but there was a time (no, really!) when you'd call law enforcement on an unruly customer. At that point, the patron could either move along quietly or get arrested. Nobody necessarily had to die, and certainly the restaurant staff (who might not be able to handle an order asking to "hold the hollandaise&quot didn't have to make life-and-death decisions.

Happily those halcyon days have gone the way of the buggy whip, and we can all take our chances that a casual meal out could become The Last Supper.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
9. And I thought "Scatterd, Covered, and Smothered" referred to the hash browns.
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 03:06 PM
Jun 2014

Seems it now refers to patrons at Waffle House scattering to cover themselves from gunfire.

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
14. This event changes nothing, as no lives of NRA leaders were in any way caused pain. Even
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 04:13 PM
Jun 2014

the killing of an occasional POTUS and a lot of school children is not enough to bring gun control legislation. Money has to be taken out of politics.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
19. Don't pick on the Waffle House
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 05:55 PM
Jun 2014

just because there are idiots there in some locations. I ate from there at lunch today - scattered covered and smothered with a patty melt. And it was delicious.

Warpy

(110,908 posts)
21. Back in the 50s and early 60s on multiple trips to Florida
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 06:43 PM
Jun 2014

my dad would stop in SC for a snack, a bathroom, and a full tank of gas. Georgia was crossed with doors locked, windows at least halfway up, and no stops. He'd stop across the line in Florida. He also crossed as little of it as possible, right at the coastline.

They didn't even encourage morons with hair trigger tempers to walk around with their binkies, er, guns being waved around all over the place.

I don't know what soured my dad on that state, I just know it was speed trap city and probably still is.

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