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Justice

(7,185 posts) Fri Jun 13, 2014, 05:40 PM Jun 2014

Do you think Cheney, Rumsfield et al knew in 2003 we'd never be free of Iraq involvement?

All that flowers, and cakewalk and 2 weeks tops, and be seen as liberators stuff -- all the mushroom could, yellowcake stuff.

All this time, we thought the big lie was the lack of WMD.

But what if the REALLY BIG lie was that once we went into Iraq we'd never be able to be free of it?

All of them, Condi, Cheney, all of the people around them are saying, well yeah, of course, we thought we would have to stay longer than 2011. Even when we signed the deal in 2008, we always knew we wold have to stay after 2011.

They haven't been right about any one thing in Iraq -- but yet, it seems as if they knew all along exactly what would happen.

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Do you think Cheney, Rumsfield et al knew in 2003 we'd never be free of Iraq involvement? (Original Post) Justice Jun 2014 OP

I bet Bush believed it...he was dumb enough, Condoliar is pretty stupid, too... joeybee12 Jun 2014 #1

don't think they cared. spanone Jun 2014 #2

No Shit, Sherlock! LongTomH Jun 2014 #3

Uh, they planned to set it up as a corporate colony. nt onehandle Jun 2014 #4

They viewed Iraq as plunder... HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #5

I think that was the whole idea FiveGoodMen Jun 2014 #6

Yes, the cold warriors wanted bases leaning forward against Russia HereSince1628 Jun 2014 #7

i don't think they cared or thought about it and i don't think they care now either JI7 Jun 2014 #8

They knew. All they cared about was $$$$$$$$$$$ Hekate Jun 2014 #9

will they continue to make money from this travesty? niyad Jun 2014 #10

Prior to Saddams ouster Saddam for all his warts was well good for business as in for the MIC just Exposethefrauds Jun 2014 #11

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)

1. I bet Bush believed it...he was dumb enough, Condoliar is pretty stupid, too...

Reply to Justice (Original post)

Fri Jun 13, 2014, 05:41 PM

Jun 2014

She might have, but Cheney and Rumsfeld probably knew it would be a mess and I'm sure didn't care.

spanone

(135,816 posts)

2. don't think they cared.

Reply to Justice (Original post)

Fri Jun 13, 2014, 05:42 PM

Jun 2014

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)

3. No Shit, Sherlock!

Reply to Justice (Original post)

Fri Jun 13, 2014, 05:45 PM

Jun 2014

They knew this would be the gift that keeps on giving to the ole MIC!

onehandle

(51,122 posts)

4. Uh, they planned to set it up as a corporate colony. nt

Reply to Justice (Original post)

Fri Jun 13, 2014, 05:45 PM

Jun 2014

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)

5. They viewed Iraq as plunder...

Reply to Justice (Original post)

Fri Jun 13, 2014, 05:47 PM

Jun 2014

... and war as an opportunity to transfer govt funds (borrowed) to MIC and various contractors (no bid, of course). Haliburton was facing bankruptcy before Iraq. They didn't much care about how long we were there, or how many US and Iraqi lives were lost, as long as they could be there long enough to milk the profits.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)

6. I think that was the whole idea

Reply to Justice (Original post)

Fri Jun 13, 2014, 06:23 PM

Jun 2014

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)

7. Yes, the cold warriors wanted bases leaning forward against Russia

Reply to FiveGoodMen (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 13, 2014, 06:26 PM

Jun 2014

BIG bases, forever.

JI7

(89,244 posts)

8. i don't think they cared or thought about it and i don't think they care now either

Reply to Justice (Original post)

Fri Jun 13, 2014, 06:27 PM

Jun 2014

Hekate

(90,633 posts)

9. They knew. All they cared about was $$$$$$$$$$$

Reply to Justice (Original post)

Fri Jun 13, 2014, 06:39 PM

Jun 2014

They knew the next president would be stuck with the mess, and they could stand back and thumb their noses at him.

niyad

(113,239 posts)

10. will they continue to make money from this travesty?

Reply to Justice (Original post)

Fri Jun 13, 2014, 07:16 PM

Jun 2014

Exposethefrauds

(531 posts)

11. Prior to Saddams ouster Saddam for all his warts was well good for business as in for the MIC just

Reply to Justice (Original post)

Fri Jun 13, 2014, 07:22 PM

Jun 2014

enough nonsense from Saddam everyone in a while to keep everybody happy selling weapons and what not without getting lots of troops killed. The oil boys did not like it well because they wanted the oil so they decided lets get rid of Saddam, take the oil and put in a new guy. Worst case is perpetual war in the region, good for MIC business, and high oil prices in the ME which makes West Texas Crude and other US oil even MORE profitable to the oil boys.

So does that answer your question as to what basically went down?

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