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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsthe iraq mess: place the blame where it is deserved
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/johncassidy/2014/06/the-iraq-mess-place-the-blame-where-it-is-deserved.htmlWith Mosul, Iraqs second-largest city, firmly under the control of a jihadi group so extreme that it was denounced by Al Qaeda; with government forces battling for Tikrit, the birthplace of Saddam Hussein; and with the religious leader of Iraqs Shiites issuing a call to arms at Fridays prayers, we have reached the moment that skeptics of the 2003 United States invasion warned about all along: the implosion of the country, and, possibly, the entire region. The state of Iraq is in imminent collapse, Faisal Istrabadi, formerly a senior Iraqi diplomat, said on Thursday.
President Obama and his military advisers are scrambling to come up with a response. Speaking on the South Lawn of the White House on Friday, Obama indicated that some sort of U.S. military action is likely, but he ruled out sending American troops, and he made clear that any U.S. involvement would be conditional on the Iraqi government of Nuri al-Maliki taking steps to unify the country. The United States does not want to be drawn back into a situation in which while we are there we are keeping a lid on things, but as soon as we are not there, people act in ways that are not conducive to the long-term interests of the country, Obama said.
Having withdrawn almost all U.S. forces from Iraq in 2011there are still a few Marines there, protecting the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad and other sitesthe President is in a tight spot. From his body language, it is clear that he wants to reëngage with Iraq about as much as he wants to undergo a root canal. Most Americans feel the same way. But, given the huge investment of manpower, money, and prestige that the United States has invested in the country over the past decade, it would be a brave or foolhardy President whod simply step aside and watch the fighters of the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham overrun Baghdad.
Elsewhere in Washington, the blame game has already begun. This is the education of Barack Obama, but its coming at a very high cost to the Syrian people to the Iraqi people, to the American national interest, Doug Feith, the Under-secretary of Defense for Policy from 2001 to 2005, told Politico. The President didnt take seriously the warnings of what would happen if we withdrew and he liked the political benefits of being able to say that were completely out. Senator John McCain, whom the President telephoned on Friday, has called on Obama to fire his entire national-security team, claiming, Could all of this have been avoided? The answer is absolutely yes.
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the iraq mess: place the blame where it is deserved (Original Post)
xchrom
Jun 2014
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cali
(114,904 posts)1. I posted this yesterday
I'm glad you posted it again. It's a good article. My post got exactly zero responses. As a whole, DU is really not terribly interested in discussing Iraq. I can't stop thinking about it, but then it's never really been off my radar.
xchrom
(108,903 posts)2. i used to post about the bombings -- but stopped
due to lack of interest.
i've found the shattering of iraq sort of fascinating in the after math of the invasion -- the anti-war folks said this would happen.
xchrom
(108,903 posts)3. U.S. Should Hit Militants in Iraq, Negroponte Says
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-14/u-s-should-hit-militants-in-iraq-negroponte-says.html
***SNIP
Time Lost
Every day, every hour it seems, time is lost, said Negroponte, who in President George W. Bushs administration also served as the nations top intelligence official from 2005 to -2007.
The radical insurgents, led by an al-Qaeda offshoot, Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant, have drawn support from other Sunnis disaffected by the government led by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. Iraqi army and security forces have fled, often abandoning U.S.-supplied weapons and uniforms.
While the fighters have advanced quickly though the largely Sunni areas of northern Iraq, they are likely to face tougher resistance once they move into Shiite-dominated areas, Negroponte said.
Even without added assistance from the U.S. government, I think this force is going to meet pushback from the Iraqi armed forces, because theyre going to come up against better troops and a less-friendly environment, he said.
***SNIP
Time Lost
Every day, every hour it seems, time is lost, said Negroponte, who in President George W. Bushs administration also served as the nations top intelligence official from 2005 to -2007.
The radical insurgents, led by an al-Qaeda offshoot, Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant, have drawn support from other Sunnis disaffected by the government led by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. Iraqi army and security forces have fled, often abandoning U.S.-supplied weapons and uniforms.
While the fighters have advanced quickly though the largely Sunni areas of northern Iraq, they are likely to face tougher resistance once they move into Shiite-dominated areas, Negroponte said.
Even without added assistance from the U.S. government, I think this force is going to meet pushback from the Iraqi armed forces, because theyre going to come up against better troops and a less-friendly environment, he said.
cali
(114,904 posts)4. I never want to hear another word out of Negraponte's mouth. Or Bremer's or Feith's or
McCain, and the list goes on.
Futile hope, I know.
xchrom
(108,903 posts)5. The seven people who need to STFU about Iraq right now
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/13/the-seven-people-who-need-to-stfu-about-iraq-right-now/
1. Andrew Sullivan, who has devoted any number of column inches lately to slamming the NeoCons and the war they advocated for. In a post today the elegantly titled The Neocons Get A War Chubby Sullivan roundly mocked and scolded re-interventionists, warning the country not to sink the U.S. right back into the Iraqi quicksand.
2. Judith Miller, the Bush administrations humiliated and discredited shill on WMDs was once thankfully banished to writing a household hints column for the West Egg Pennysaver or something.
3. Thomas Friedman, the hot air specialist who rhapsodized in May of 2003 that American military might had rightly told the Iraqi people to suck on this. When the Iraqis declined his offer and the occupation spiraled completely out of control, Friedman insisted over and over that the situation would stabilize in just six more months.
4. The New York Times seems to have conveniently forgotten how sad and diminished the Gray Lady looked locked out on the Bush administrations porch in her bloomers, poor old thing.
1. Andrew Sullivan, who has devoted any number of column inches lately to slamming the NeoCons and the war they advocated for. In a post today the elegantly titled The Neocons Get A War Chubby Sullivan roundly mocked and scolded re-interventionists, warning the country not to sink the U.S. right back into the Iraqi quicksand.
2. Judith Miller, the Bush administrations humiliated and discredited shill on WMDs was once thankfully banished to writing a household hints column for the West Egg Pennysaver or something.
3. Thomas Friedman, the hot air specialist who rhapsodized in May of 2003 that American military might had rightly told the Iraqi people to suck on this. When the Iraqis declined his offer and the occupation spiraled completely out of control, Friedman insisted over and over that the situation would stabilize in just six more months.
4. The New York Times seems to have conveniently forgotten how sad and diminished the Gray Lady looked locked out on the Bush administrations porch in her bloomers, poor old thing.