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Ok, they can tell when Joe and Steve or Amy and Cathy apply for a Marriage License, but what do they do about Mary and John who are divorced? Let me see your Annulment Papers from the Vatican? Ask what Mary and John's RELIGION is?????? After all by THEIR religion, they are condoning Bigamy and Adultery without ROME'S saying their first marriage "never existed".
Why aren't the Catholic Bishops, Cardinals, Pope screaming about THIS? Mockery of sacred holy matrimony of one man and one woman FOR LIFE!!!!!!
It seems to me if GAY MARRIAGE is an affront to your religion, then divorce and remarriage should be also. Or maybe it is a matter of what you don't/cannot know, won't "hurt" YOU????
As a FORMER Catholic, I find this attitude very, very hypocritical.
TexasProgresive
(12,155 posts)marrying civilly it is a moot point. Really the whole thing is a bit absurd. Let whoever marry whoever civilly. Let Churches recognize or not any marriages.
RB TexLa
(17,003 posts)The civil aspect of my marriage meant nothing. And just because I could legally marry again according to civil laws that also means nothing.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)wrong? The Sacrament of Divorce seems to have no effect on those who claim their marriages were hand crafted by God Almighty. 'God made it, it was holy, it lasted 18 months' is not very convincing.
If there was a 'sacramental' aspect, don't you think such marriages would last at least more often than the 'regular' sort which everyone on Earth who is not Catholic have? What sort of a 'sacrament' looks and acts exactly like a 'non sacrament'?
Then there is a guy like Rudy Gullianni, married for years then 'annulled' then married again, then he moves his mistress into Gracie mansion before his second divorce, runs around shouting about how Sacramental his various couplings are. Two or three wives, various mistresses. Sacramental goodness!
RB TexLa
(17,003 posts)time I can receive it.
The fact that state laws say I can get married does not have any effect on this.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)Clerks who use their religious tenets as an excuse are just wrong. Their job is to enable civil marriage unions, not sacred ones.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)I've only been married once, in 1980. What I most noticed about getting the license was that I didn't have to show proof of who I was, let alone my age. No wonder some people succumb to the temptation to lie about their age.
And more to the point, Catholics, or so I thought, take no stand about non Catholics divorcing, since if they weren't married in the Church in the first place, they weren't really married. At least that's the way I understood it growing up. Which is quite nonsensical, of course.
liberalhistorian
(20,814 posts)here in South Dakota it definitely asks that, and, to my knowledge, marriage license applications in my former state of Ohio also ask that question and include the information on the license. It's up to each state,though, as to what questions to ask on their applications and it depends on state law.
It was funny when hubby and I got our marriage license application, because he'd previously been married twice and I had never been married. And, on SD applications, the question is very prominent and you actually have to show proof of divorce to the clerks if you've been divorced. But not all states do that, of course.
I totally get where the OP is coming from and I agree that it's quite hypocritical. But, unfortunately, also all too common. Kinda reminds me of the pharmacists who think they have the right to use their own personal beliefs in deciding whether or not to fill your legal prescription.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)I wonder if they have any good way to check on previous marriages.
Especially if a prior marriage and divorce took place elsewhere. Or, like me, I got married in one state, divorced years later in another one. I now live in yet another state, which I'm sure has no way of knowing what my marital history has been.
Similarly, I often wonder if there is some national registry of felons. What's to keep someone who serves time in prison, then completes the sentence, from simply registering to vote. Again, especially if that person moves to another state.
Warpy
(111,141 posts)Many of us have a lot to be grateful to the divorce courts for.
Anyway, the annulment is a great cash cow for Mother Church since most of the people seeking them are high profile enough to need to stay in the church. Poor folks just get remarried by a judge and call it a day, not bothering to tell the priest about it.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)I recall reading that Catholics aren't allowed to remarry if you've already been married and there is no annulment.
Civil marriages are irrelevant.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)they should find another job.
that includes pharmacists who won't fill doctor's prescriptions.
If religious folk would stop trying to force their religious beliefs on others, I would have little to say about most of those organizations. But they do - which is why they are, to me, the enemies of democracy.
rocktivity
(44,572 posts)and one of a court clerk's duties is marrying people WITHOUT discrimination as by law. If they feel their Catholicism trumps that, they shouldn't keep the job.
rocktivity