It reminded me of the end of the movie Brazil and I was the one sitting in the chair

This is what brainwashing shit is going down on the radio these days...

More hollow jingoism is all this is. Too bad he had to mention Springsteen, of whom he obviously knows nothing.

Because he thought it was about patriotism...obviously they know nothing.

always amused that Bruce wouldn't allow a face-to-face even though Christie desperately wanted one. For years he snubbed the guy despite requests for an chance to meet him, finally giving in as a favor to Obama:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/16/nyregion/christie-and-springsteen-a-tale-of-devotion-and-a-very-public-snub.html?_r=0

--you get your wife back, you get your dog back, you get your truck back and you quit drinking.

Like the one we just gave Sgt. Bergdahl?

-- Mal

Still tear up when I hear her sing the threat letter she received,

Listened to it the other day, don't know why. It's been been years since the last time I did.

The whole album was beautiful, in fact. Hard hitting issues. Fertility. Alzheimer's. The war, The lies. Fair weather friends.

Very powerful stuff.

and disappointed she did.




The statement failed to appease her critics, and Maines issued an apology on March 14: "As a concerned American citizen, I apologize to President Bush because my remark was disrespectful. I feel that whoever holds that office should be treated with the utmost respect. We are currently in Europe and witnessing a huge anti-American sentiment as a result of the perceived rush to war. While war may remain a viable option, as a mother, I just want to see every possible alternative exhausted before children and American soldiers' lives are lost. I love my country. I am a proud American."[46][47]

ruined even more than she was and possibly physically harmed.

America has some good stuff, but we have tens of millions of very stupid, very mean people who would harm her without thinking twice

But he did not.

Bush is from Connecticut. Drugstore, draft dodging alcoholic cowboy from new England.

The man is a lie, from stem to stern.

But loved the Dixie Chicks for standing up for themselves throughout the whole hypocritical farce and started listening to them a little bit more after that!

but just after that happened, we went out and bought two Dixie Chicks cd's and that issue of Entertainment. We still listen to them.

At the time, there was an article in newspaper in SC that 'disappeared suddenly' within a month or 2. Turns out the 'boycotting' started at a radio station there, with people calling in to the radio station demanding a boycott. When the reporter talked to the people who had been calling in, some of them forgot to turn off caller-id, which identified the SC Republican Party as the caller each time...

Take this with the fact that one of the top Country songs was pretty anti-war, 'Travelin Soldier' sung by the Dixie Chicks, and they did insult a Republican President, it's no wonder the GOP didn't do more than try to ruin their careers...

Thanks for this and welcome to DU

I love Garth Brooks 'We Shall be Free' but, I swear, if I have to listen to 'Jesus take the Wheel' one more time, I'll lose it.

If you ever knew how popular country music is in Jamaica you'd be shocked.
I like about five country songs.

country reggae?? who'da thunk

I still piss people off by asking if I can play the Dixie Chix yet.

she's just turned 71. She now lives in the Long Bay area. Beautiful! Visited her a few years ago. I remember a little bar nearby where my cousin was friends with the owner. We hung out there, played dominoes till my fingers were numb and listened to country music. Every now and then the owner would sneak in some reggae or rock and roll or even folk, but the majority was country. I was shocked!

and yes rural Jamaica lives on country and western music. It does shock when Kenny Rodgers shows sell out here.

through the Goalposts of Life" was on the charts.

--"You're nothing but a squeaky wheel on the grocery cart of life."

She was one great and hilarious lady.

Poor Natalie Maines, her career was killed and she's only worth $40 million instead of $140 million like she should be. http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/singers/natalie-maines-net-worth/

Of course, she enjoys her career. I'd be happy to kill my career myself if I was worth a mere $250,000.

I don't think she was hurt that badly.

Being performers really mattered to them.
They got unbelievably nasty treatment from many people. Their kids received death threats.

So you can take that snark and shove it! I don't think being treated like dirt and losing your main audience is a small price to pay.

In addition, they had changed the Nashville music game. They bucked Sony and put their careers on the line before to gain creative control and more power in their contracts. Their demise was a setback for others in the business especially women.

MEH!

MEH indeed

I seem to be getting some nasty treatment from you too.

For not so much as a nickel.

I get nasty treatment at work all the frigging time. Just worked another hour and a quarter of unpaid overtime last night.

And my back still hurts from two weeks ago when I had to empty out the sixteen tons stored in the attic.

Yet I am supposed to cry, cry, cry for a famous person who has forty million dollars? For the loss of their career?

And a setback for others in the business? You mean like Taylor Swift (worth $150 million) or Faith Hill (worth $80 million) or who? Mindy McCready? Lila McCann?

Those are people whose careers died.

you should learn how to play a guitar and sing. It's really easy ya know.

Good luck. Let me know when you're coming to my home town to do a show.

and it is kinda easy, at least for me. I've been in a number of church choirs.

I've even written a few songs, mostly parodies. I don't write the tunes. But I think my lyrics to the "Incredible Hulk" theme song are kinda cool.

I play trumpet for charity. Lots of people tell me they enjoy that, and I think it raises a little bit more money for the charity. Play in some tough conditions too. Once I started a set, got about halfway through my first song - and my valves froze.

My favorite time was when this little boy, maybe two years old was standing there with his dad and older brother and I played "Santa Claus is coming to town" and that kid was just marching away, and maybe singing along too. It was really cute. Makes me smile to remember it.

Not that you care.

Also, on Tuesday I will be playing pianoforte at the club meeting, even accompaning their singing. But I am way out of practice there and playing easy stuff anyway. Just not motivated to practice much any more.

But my baby sister had more years of lessons than I did, and she does not play at all any more.

her career was on the downswing.

Lila McCann hasn't made a country hit in a while. I wouldn't have named her in a million years as an example. Faith Hill is also rarely on the charts. Taylor Swift owes part of her career to the 'pop' sound of a lot of her music.

(Your paragraph was confusing so I'm not sure who you meant as having dying careers and such. )

I am talking about more control over what they sing and their careers. You seem to think $$$ makes all of it ok. It was a setback for others who might have gotten a bigger say in what they wanted.

I don't expect you to cry for them. I would think you might respect that their work meant a lot to them and still does. Apparently you only respect $$$. I miss them and what we might have heard.

You want nasty, you haven't seen nasty. I'd write a 'come to Jesus' rant for you if I thought it mattered.

my "career" is about being able to pay my bills.

So Maines is already quite privileged in TWO ways - getting to do something she enjoys and that means a lot to her and second, making tons of money doing so.

Her work means a lot to her? So what is stopping her from keeping it going? She has $40,000,000 she can do whatever the hell she wants.

Me, I have to keep putting in 40 hours a week at scrambling grunt work because it is the only way I have to pay my bills.

I guess if it wasn't for her statement against Bush that many radio stations would be playing more crap like "ready to run".

Like THAT's a huge benefit to the world.

I just don't see how somebody with $40 million has taken a devastating career hit. And many musical acts don't last for more than a decade anyway.

And no, I do NOT want nasty. But even $100,000 would compensate for a whole lot of nasty. To say nothing of $4 million.

To say nothing of $40 million.

I imagine many limited imaginations believe money to be the only measure for individual success and failure, and further project that same limitation onto everyone else.

Mindy died last year. Feb 2013.

It seemed longer ago.
She was a good artist and I wish her life had hone better. RIP

I have one of her albums from the late 1990s. She was 1.5 months older than me.

I find it very sad RIP.

Talk about first world problems. Sorry if I focus my concerns and worries on the poor family living downtown because they have no house. Sorry if I worry more about millions of children crying themselves to sleep with hunger pains. Sorry if I worry about millions of homeless vets living on the streets filled with people who have forgotten about them. You can spend your time defending member of the 1%.

We can't multitask?
It is possible to stand up for some of the few people who PUBLICLY denounced the Iraq war when it began and got crushed for it. If more people had been like them earlier, maybe a lot of heartache could be avoided.

If all we did was light candles at an altar to them, spend most of our time only listening to their cd's, and making them our number one priority then it would be different.

However, we need people who will stand up and be heard wherever they fall on the economic spectrum.

I will always have time to speak up and defend those who themselves have spoken up. I don't care if they are politicians, entertainers or somebody in my town who I don't know.

Ben Franklin said it best. "We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately".
If somebody is honest and forceful about their convictions, they are welcome in movements I'm in.

and not limit your pity to your circumstances. The Dixie Chicks were unfairly punished for speaking the truth. That should upset everyone!

that leaves the "victim" with $40,000,000 does not seem all that harsh to me.

I think they had an easier time than me over the last decade and were much better rewarded for it.

Not that I think what happened to them was right, but it sure didn't hurt them THAT badly.

which owned many country stations. Their clout made the outcry very huge, very quickly.
I know there would have been problems, but Clear Channel really had a huge hand in destroying their American music careers.
They play a series of concerts in Canada regularly, but I don't blame them for not playing in the US.

Natalie Maines has kept busy with her own career and released an album. She was a high-profile supporter of The Memphis Three. She played at an event for Wendy Davis.

Martie and Emily are a bluegrass duo called The Courtyard Hounds. They have released a couple of albums.

One of the main reasons they just disappeared was the fact that they had young kids and were getting death threats. I think if they hadn't had kids yet, they would have been fighting and around longer.

I wish they would get together a group of singers and form a distaff version of The Highwaymen. That group was made up of Johnny Cash, Waylon Jennings, Kris Kristofferson, and Willie Nelson.

back then. Some people were very surprised when the Chicks' concerts were still packed. I have their Not Ready to Back Down CD. I LOVE the defiance. They rule forever in my book!

West Wing were bright spots in a very dark period. Also Keith.

Clear Channel really pushed the boycott against them on radio which fueled everything else.
That in turn shut down others who might have spoken up. Some have spoken of their regret that they didn't step up to side with their right to speak.

Thanks

As Natalie Maines, said the stereotypes are true (which means they do not exist).

saturated the airwaves and news print begging for war with Iraq all based on lies brainwashing millions if not tens of millions of Americans.

Country music is traditionally nationalist in nature and will almost always rally around the flag without a strong counter point by our so called fourth estate, thus country music was sure to follow without equivocation.

question, the country genre must be held as an enemy of justice.

"corporate media" as a monopoly is only promoting war as the answer with no major counter debate.

Fire will keep you warm and cook your food, but it will also burn your house down.

Country music as an inherent American style music is traditionalist not radical or rebellious except for in a few cases, Johnny Cash comes to mind.

Personally, I never liked Country-Western, or whatever you call the mass market stuff.

I like old time fiddle and banjo, Appalachian, traditionalist, roots music.

do I need this?

Rofl.. I would have burned it.

I started doing research. Since I started my research within a few days of him moving to Houston his crunch men had not cleansed the internet. I found some very interesting information which was denied later but he was a big time party boy and substance abuser. This was enough information along with the last portion of his military service missing, his two companies which failed and other things I knew I would not ever vote for this guy. He has been on 8 ballots presented to me, never did he get my vote. During his first term as governor my thoughts was cemented, he is the wrong person to be in the position of governor and later as president of the US. He lied and got us into a war in Iraq because he wanted the war even before 9/11.

Too many folks ignore due diligence. He should not have been elected dog catcher let alone President - but we know that 2000 election was stolen.

The miscreants had several mechanisms in place in Florida that would guarantee a victory. Except it didn't.

They had to resort to emergency measures that handed Dubya a victory. Just think, we almost didn't get a 911, an Iraq War or an economic meltdown complete with the massive bailout.

Just imagine, the supreme court ruled, "Stop counting the votes, we have the results we want."

and they still think they are in charge - it is frightening

they nearly remain in charge. They certainly control the media narrative.

They have infected every fugging institution

I have a few that are still in their cellophane. I just wanted to support them.

She really has an amazing voice. I went to the Vote For Change grand finale concert in DC. She sang with James Taylor and did the lead vocal of Sweet Baby James with JT singing back-up. At first I was bummed thinking "let him sing it!" but then I was completely won over. Now, it's probably one of my favorite covers ever.

In many ways this is their last stand..They will holler BOO to their dying day.


Tikki

Harder than your husband, Lonesome Cowboy Burt, and Truck Driver Divorce.

Zappa family friend Beverly DiAngelo sang Harder than your Husband in the movie, Daddy's Dead, who's got the will.

It is very important to recall those dark ages of the run up to the 2003 invasion. A repressive McCarthy-ist vibe cloaked our entire country, along with the other stupid countries that supported this in progress for eleven years with no end in sight clusterfuck.

With Iraq descending into civil war and anarchy, will the multi-national oil companies still have access to the oil the invasion provided for them? You know, the way they partitioned Iraq during Cheney's pre invasion Secret meetings with oil execs? Since that was what the invasion was really all about, it would be sad to have sacrificed so much human life for nothing.

-90% jimmy

And Zappa covered Johnny Cash' Ring of Fire. Johnny would have sung it with the band, but got sick that night, and they performed it w/o Johnny. Mike Kennealy filed in for Johnny on vocals just fine.

NOT the MAJORITY of the fans.

Here's a clip from the Malloy Show from back then:

http://server4.whiterosesociety.org/content/malloy/MalloyMemories/Dixie_Chicked_by_the_vast_Right_Wing_Minority.mp3

...for YEARS. It does indeed herald a vision of America that is no longer based in reality - not to mention its noticeable lack of diversity. Other than Darius Rucker, Charley Pride, and Neal McCoy, it's very difficult to hear minority voices in the music. It's overwhelmingly WHITE and CONSERVATIVE.

2003, from beginning to end, was probably the most widespread "Proud to be stupid" time I can remember before or since.

People I knew personally jumped on that bandwagon at the time. Not like crazy-eyes pouring French wine into the gutter/Dixie Chicks CD burnings...but, there did seem to be a big shift to where being a one-dimensional aggressive dick was hip. It really crested in 2003 and felt like it wasn't going to end. Thankfully, 2004 things started lightening up a bit. Not enough to get Captain Dipshit out of the White House, but it was the beginning of the lessening of the "Proud to be stupid" fad.

The Republicans, I believe, miss that era so badly they can taste it. That's why I believe they'd love nothing more than another attack on American soil.

Most of em all still watch Fox News.

to their beliefs about what we're supposed to be as a country. (That's a period at the end of that sentence.)

It cost them money, and more than that, it cost them audiences. Not many people get that, but when you work with performers, their overwhelming goal in life is a line from Studio 60, where Harriet says, "Get me an audience..."

If they were "ready to make nice" they could have the US venues back. They are stnd up patriots, and to me that makes them heros.

25 to 30 million in 24 hrs.
We all said no.
We were dismissed as a focus group.
We were laughed at.
We begged,we pled.
No one listened.

Just heartbreaking.

.

I was there. For me, that protest marked the beginning of the end of our Fourth Estate.

We did protest