now use real drugs which are a main cause of shootings

resist. Gunners keep making irrational excuses for using the darn things. We need to start weaning ourselves off the friggin things.

Another parallel.

Since you seem to be calling me addicted. Am I correct there, you are calling me addicted right? What special training do you have on diagnosing a poster on a discussion board?

How many weapons do I have? What types? Why do I have them? How often do I fire them? I have a CCW but how often do I carry? Do I support open carry? Do I support "sensible" gun legislation?

Since you know so much about me, answer those questions and please let me know how you came up with your diagnoses.

Like pornography, he just knows it when he sees it.

I'm just surprised we haven't seen the usual "Hoyt Family Reunion" photos.

the sexual references that seem to show up also.

No.

there is a way, the tools are a gun at times and bombs other times

Bath School disaster

so typical...yawn

How any people have died due to our gun problem vs those two examples?

Since 1927 ?

How many have died from drunk and distracted driving during this time and are you as worked up and outraged over that or do they just not count as much?

because I know every time I get in my car there's a chance I might get in an accident and die or cause an accident. So far, I've had three accidents and due to improvements in car safety, I am still alive and I've not killed someone with my car. I have insurance and so did those drivers who caused two out of the three. The last one required months of therapy, so I'm glad for that.

If some douche with a gun shoots me, who pays? I do and usually it's no accident, it's a crime (Florida, Somolia being the exception)

We don't expect to get shot when we go shopping. We don't expect our kids to be killed by gun shots at school even though we all should in angry/hateful/armed and dangerous America.

I suppose we could all wear bullet proof vests. What a visual that would be - American's required to wear bullet proof vests, just like seat belts.

I get a ticket for not wearing my seat belt.

Maybe mandatory bullet proof vests will become a reality.

Then again, the NRA would lobby to nix that idea due to an image problem..

The car vs gun talking point - not the same.

just not true. I've lived in certain sections of Miami, Fl and Atlanta, Ga where I worried more about being robbed when I went out than I did about being in an accident. Actually, I've been robbed more times than I've been in automobile accidents. That, too, is a reality that people have to accept and live with.

Peace,

Ghost

guns are a big part of a lot of the country and have no issues. I am more worried about cars with distracted drivers than I am about guns. I have had some close calls on my motorcycle and have been hit from behind while stopped in the line to enter post by a driver on a phone and not paying attention. At least I was in my truck that day and only the bumper and brackets had to be replaced.

Distracted, drunk, methed-up, pill heads and/or drunks worry me more here. I'm a gun owner too, and make no apologies about it and fully support the 2nd amendment. I was just pointing out a different reality to the other poster that there ARE places where people who live there worry more about getting robbed than they do about getting into an accident instead of vice versa of what the other poster said.

Peace,

Ghost

there are already controls, What more are you proposing that will stop these incidents?

manslaughter with vehicles

and insurance will not cover illegal acts

there would be no child drownings in them.

Preaching to the choir at best; as the number of shooting decreases year after year. Certainly not going to persuade anyone who doesn't already have their mind made up.

as if your mind is not already made up.......riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.....we all remember school shootings growing up - oh wait, us older folk do not

done here........pointless waste of time

Since shootings aren't going up.


Accidental, I'm sure.

With the news at our fingertips the perception for some may be different though.

They pretty much average a shooting a week in the city I'm in, 9 out of 10 are in a specific area of town though and related to gang/drug violence. But if you didn't know that it would sound like the place is a war zone by watching the news when in reality all the other areas are very safe.

As most of the new legislation proposed does nothing to address criminal firearm use in high crime areas. The only recent "policy" that was effective in reducing criminal firearm use in high crime areas was Bloomberg's "Stop and Frisk" program. Horrible from a civil liberties standpoint but was effective in separating firearms from those who were legally prohibited from possessing them. Most new legislation focuses on long guns not used in these neighborhoods and on magazine capacity for these weapons.