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babylonsister

(171,032 posts)
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 07:48 PM Jun 2014

Republicans Have a Big Bubba Problem: Clinton is The Most Admired POTUS of Last 25 Years

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/06/15/republicans-big-bubba-problem-clinton-admired-potus-25-years.html


Republicans Have a Big Bubba Problem: Clinton is The Most Admired POTUS of Last 25 Years
By: Jason Easley
Sunday, June, 15th, 2014, 7:35 pm



With the Clinton political brand poised for a resurgence in 2016, the last thing Republicans needed was a new polling showing that Bill Clinton is the most admired president of the last 25 years, but that is exactly what they’ve got.

A new NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Annenberg Survey found that Bill Clinton is the runaway most admired president of the last 25 years. Forty-two percent of respondents picked Clinton. President Obama came in at 18%, George W. Bush got 17%, and George H.W. Bush was close behind at 16%.

Normally, these sorts of polls make for nice historical arguments as to who was the better president, but with Hillary Clinton likely running in 2016, her husband’s runaway win in the POTUS admiration contest takes on an entirely different dimension. Republicans had already been trying to deal with former President Clinton’s popularity by reviving the Lewinsky scandal, which shows that Republicans have learned nothing. Every time, they bring up Lewinsky, Clinton gets more popular.

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Republicans are flipping out already over Hillary Clinton running, but one of their biggest problems in 2016 may be the presence of her husband. Republicans have a big bubba problem. If the Clintons hit the campaign trail firing on all cylinders, 2016 could be another blowout win for Democrats.
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Republicans Have a Big Bubba Problem: Clinton is The Most Admired POTUS of Last 25 Years (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2014 OP
I hope he hits the streets for candidated like Alison Lundergan Grimes to pull her over Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #1
Clinton was one of Grimes earliest supporters JI7 Jun 2014 #2
In turn more support for Hillary Administration. Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #6
An older ranking but still interesting (December 1999) yeoman6987 Jun 2014 #17
I am surprised Obama is not more popular than Clinton. Jamastiene Jun 2014 #3
Obama's standing will improve post-Presidency wyldwolf Jun 2014 #8
+1 Blue_Tires Jun 2014 #34
Some will support the Bushes come hell or high water, some would never support Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #9
OBama is still currently serving as President but i believe his numbers will rise JI7 Jun 2014 #12
This may be a big reason why ~ Zorra Jun 2014 #22
Obama's more cerebral; Clinton comes across as warmer. pnwmom Jun 2014 #23
Think it makes a lot of sense. lark Jun 2014 #25
and for some believe it or not is because Obama isnt "melanin challenged" like Clinton is.. VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #26
So sadly true lark Jun 2014 #27
There are some on the left that would consider it a problem too. nt BootinUp Jun 2014 #4
I cannot believe Obama is down there with George Bush in this poll. bradla Jun 2014 #5
Obama would never have been so stupid to invade Iraq, W on the other hand rushed to Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #11
People could only vote for one person. BlueCheese Jun 2014 #35
"Republicans Have a Big Bubba Problem" wyldwolf Jun 2014 #7
gmta BootinUp Jun 2014 #10
wait a minute--didn't the Gipper rank? Demeter Jun 2014 #13
and the point you're making is...? wyldwolf Jun 2014 #14
I'd like to see where the Gipper ranked vis-avis Bubba Demeter Jun 2014 #15
there a are a lot of polls, academic writing, etc. that put Reagan in the mix of modern presidents wyldwolf Jun 2014 #20
I noticed that Carter was missing too. yeoman6987 Jun 2014 #16
Carter hasn't been president in the last 25 years. wyldwolf Jun 2014 #18
Neither was Reagan but some were curious to see how he would be ranked yeoman6987 Jun 2014 #19
Reagan wasn't included in this survey wyldwolf Jun 2014 #21
From the OP Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2014 #24
Holy shit, Bill Clinton is running again? hughee99 Jun 2014 #28
I don't understand JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #29
He is still smiling at them with that grin. I love it! William769 Jun 2014 #30
I missed the Big Dawg when Dimson was in charge. muntrv Jun 2014 #31
cool samsingh Jun 2014 #32
Only Republicans? Beacool Jun 2014 #33
Bur Dennis Miller says most people can't stand him rpannier Jun 2014 #36
Is Dennis Miller a member of DU? Metric System Jun 2014 #37
Dennis Miller is a moron rpannier Jun 2014 #38

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. I hope he hits the streets for candidated like Alison Lundergan Grimes to pull her over
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 08:05 PM
Jun 2014

McConnell, what a great win for democrats. Americans prospered during his administration though he fought with a GOP Congress.

JI7

(89,239 posts)
2. Clinton was one of Grimes earliest supporters
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 08:07 PM
Jun 2014

and one of the reasons Ashley Judd did not get into the race.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
17. An older ranking but still interesting (December 1999)
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 08:37 PM
Jun 2014

In addition to conducting a historian survey, C-Span also conducted a presidential leadership survey of 1145 viewers in December 1999.[30]

Abraham Lincoln
Franklin D. Roosevelt
George Washington
Theodore Roosevelt
Ronald Reagan
Harry S. Truman
Woodrow Wilson
Thomas Jefferson
John F. Kennedy
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Lyndon B. Johnson
James K. Polk
Andrew Jackson
James Monroe
William McKinley
John Adams
Grover Cleveland
James Madison
John Quincy Adams
George H.W. Bush
Bill Clinton
Jimmy Carter
Gerald Ford
William Howard Taft
Richard Nixon
Rutherford B. Hayes
Calvin Coolidge
Zachary Taylor
James A. Garfield
Martin Van Buren
Benjamin Harrison
Chester A. Arthur
Ulysses S. Grant
Herbert Hoover
Millard Fillmore
John Tyler
William Henry Harrison
Warren G. Harding
Franklin Pierce
Andrew Johnson
James Buchanan

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
3. I am surprised Obama is not more popular than Clinton.
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 08:08 PM
Jun 2014

I can see how Clinton has been super popular through the years, but I didn't think he'd be more popular than Obama.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
9. Some will support the Bushes come hell or high water, some would never support
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 08:13 PM
Jun 2014

Obama ergo Clinton tops them. Many around me know they prospered under Clinton administration and it never happened under either Bush and the GOP is making damn sure it doesn't happen now.

JI7

(89,239 posts)
12. OBama is still currently serving as President but i believe his numbers will rise
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 08:16 PM
Jun 2014

especially as he gets into the post presidency work and we can reflect back to what he dealt with.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
22. This may be a big reason why ~
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 09:13 PM
Jun 2014

The Clinton years were unquestionably a time of progress, especially on the economy [...] Clinton's 1992 slogan, 'Putting people first,' and his stress on 'the economy, stupid,' pitched an optimistic if still gritty populism at a middle class that had suffered under Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. [...] By the end of the Clinton presidency, the numbers were uniformly impressive. Besides the record-high surpluses and the record-low poverty rates, the economy could boast the longest economic expansion in history; the lowest unemployment since the early 1970s; and the lowest poverty rates for single mothers, black Americans, and the aged.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_Bill_Clinton#The_economy



pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
23. Obama's more cerebral; Clinton comes across as warmer.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 09:39 AM
Jun 2014

They're both extremely smart, but somehow Clinton is warmer. Part of it, I think, may be his disarming ability to laugh at himself.

lark

(23,061 posts)
25. Think it makes a lot of sense.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 12:50 PM
Jun 2014

The Clinton years were great economically for the working class so people remember that time with fondness. Yes, Clinton did some bad things like NAFTA and the ending of the banking restrictions (can't think of the act now, brain went blank) that had long term bad effects, but at the time everything was going up for the workers. He also put in FMLA which has tremendously helped working people and did so from the start. ACA took years to implement and just got really started this year. Long term, Obama could be seen in a much better light if he doesn't keep on gutting provisions that helped the workers in favor of the industry making even more money.

 

bradla

(89 posts)
5. I cannot believe Obama is down there with George Bush in this poll.
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 08:09 PM
Jun 2014

Can you imagine if Obama was president when 911 happened...or how about lying to start a war that got 4500 hundred Americans killed. He would have been impeached. Liberal media my ass. George Bush started an ill advised war that cost trillions of dollars and the economy crashed as he was leaving. I do not care what anybody says about the economy now, it is better than it was when Bush was leaving. People were being laid off left and right. It really is something.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
11. Obama would never have been so stupid to invade Iraq, W on the other hand rushed to
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 08:15 PM
Jun 2014

Be most stupid.

BlueCheese

(2,522 posts)
35. People could only vote for one person.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:37 PM
Jun 2014

It's not really a fair comparison. Assuming Clinton drew off most of the Democrats, it makes sense that there wouldn't be too many lef to vote for Obama.

To me, the important thing is that Democrats took 60% of the vote.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
7. "Republicans Have a Big Bubba Problem"
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 08:11 PM
Jun 2014

So do some other people. (and they'll be here in 5... 4... 3... 2... )



On a related note, I have no doubt Obama's standing will improve post-presidency.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
13. wait a minute--didn't the Gipper rank?
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 08:23 PM
Jun 2014

January 20, 1981 – January 20, 1989...so, he escapes comparison on the basis of days.

Neat bit of data culling....

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
15. I'd like to see where the Gipper ranked vis-avis Bubba
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 08:30 PM
Jun 2014

to see if the nation has learned anything, yet.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
20. there a are a lot of polls, academic writing, etc. that put Reagan in the mix of modern presidents
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 08:39 PM
Jun 2014

25 years just makes a better time period than 25 years and a few days.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
16. I noticed that Carter was missing too.
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 08:33 PM
Jun 2014

Having Carter and Reagan in the mix would have been very interesting. I have NO idea how it would have turned out.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
19. Neither was Reagan but some were curious to see how he would be ranked
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 08:39 PM
Jun 2014

I just threw in Carter since he is still alive.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
24. From the OP
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 12:29 PM
Jun 2014
Republicans had already been trying to deal with former President Clinton’s popularity by reviving the Lewinsky scandal, which shows that Republicans have learned nothing. Every time, they bring up Lewinsky, Clinton gets more popular.


Given that the Lewinsky scandal amounts to "Married man gets blow job from a woman who is not his wife and lies about it", there is clearly nothing there.

JustAnotherGen

(31,780 posts)
29. I don't understand
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 01:50 PM
Jun 2014

So they (the 'Right') hated him before they loved him?

Those numbers have got to include some of those idiots screaming to have him impeached 16 years ago. Vindicated!

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