Are you going to tell me with a straight face that CNN sets a high bar? Fox? WaPo? I think even AJE is spending time on the Kardashians these days.

More paranoid Ron Paul delusions. Is Al Jazeera America bad too? CNN is no better than RT...worse actually. Are we supposed to think Thom Hartmann is a righty because he supports constitutional rights and us antiNSA? He is more left wing than the poster I bet.

If half the things said about ethnic Russians here were said about other minorities the site would get closed on real quick.

My god you can't even post about a humanitarian crisis if it involves ethnic Russian women and children if someone thinks it will reflect badly on someone or Putin has todays headlines.

is the worst of them. It's propaganda 24/7.

I find much of RT's reporting far more credible than major networks in the US. I know nothing about the discredited "Jew Conspiracy" you speak of.

There are 200.000 or so on DU - maybe 30 of so of who complain incessantly about RT.

Even after being exposed.......not sure there's anything particularly constructive about continually digging up old videos. The one you mention is from January 2012 .

kind of shit the right wing does.

oh well, seems that election season is really starting now. That is when the baiting and nastyness really comes out and we seem to lose all semblance to being a progressive site.

We have hosts, and hosts are limited to enforcing the SOP of each forum. If you have a problem with a source, the way to address it is to send a community standard alert and see if, via a jury, a majority of other DUers agree with your opinion.

are OK but RT is really bad stuff.

with Huffpo and a few others close behind.

Huffpo runs lots of fluff and misleading (oversold) headlines, but please give a link to some definite "bullshit" article they have run recently.

Just about any and every quack imaginable has articles at HuffPo.

HuffPost is horrible. Don't confuse the two.

which was complaining about alternet. It and HuffPost are like any news source, some good articles, some not so good.

Weak joke.

I presume CT = conspiracy theory and not Connecticut, but I'm willing to be proven wrong.

Posts are clearer when writers don't write in code or at least write out acronyms in full before using them.

and then turns around to complain about them and get everyone fighting.

Only on DU......

agenda. At least it's not allowed in LBN for good reason.

I've seen lots of good stuff on RT. Are we supposed to believe Al Jazeera America is propaganda too because it's based out of the Middle East. Our media is the worst but people aren't critically thinking regarding it. People seem to forget that fascism has reigned here since 911 and that fact hasn't changed.

Koch bros bullshit propaganda.

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I have to pick and choose what I deem worthy while sifting through it all. If one normally thinks critically, questions the answers and doesn't follow authority then it's a good start at least. If MSNBC had Cenk and Hartmann things would be different. Believe me I know there are things that are true about Russia that Putin would never allow reported but our media covers. But the same is true that suppressed stories about us that CNN would never cover RT could.

sources for comparison helps a lot to discern the credible from the BS.

Everything can be submitted to them pre posting and if they approve it then it can be posted.

on my behalf, but it sounds like some of you want that.

here's the thing, most of us are smart enough to figure out what is BS and what isn't.

But I've seen many good articles and videos there. More than CNN. Way more.

and has no bearing on the comments section there.

You may care to contradict that by posting relevant links.

But, unlike the other forums, anything posted in LBN does have to contend with the hosts' opinion of the source.

It's not RT they hate. They would like to shut down anything but what they want to see.

That is all.

I have never seen someone use RT that doesn't claim to be completely anti-fascist and anti-propaganda with every other angle of their life.

Use key word hide. or take this to ATA

More like nearly all the time.

That's why a "former CIA agent" posts "Jews control the world" videos, and articles like this are welcome at RT.

PBS called it "The Oldest Hatred," hatred of "The Jews."

Anti-Semitism hit it's peak in Nazi Germany, with Joseph Goebbels and his "The Jews are to blame for everything" in his diary.

My sister spent several months on a Saudi USAF base, she said the conspiracy theories, outright hatred and lies are just thick.

In Poland, anti-Jew hatred is rampant, with even Lech Walesa calling one of his opponents in an election a "crypto-Jew."

Trash it or get Skinner to ban that source completely. Myself? I don't like it so I ignore it. I don't like fox news, so I ignore it. Trashing and ignore makes that shit go away.

For the record, you need to get out more, from the country I mean.

Our media is just as tendentious and full of propaganda. In fact, I find ours far less informative than a few other sources. That said, always be aware of the angle and be ready to spot the looney.

Oh and thanks for giving me a new angle to cover. No, antisemitism in the US is not as bad as let's say the ME, but it does exist. You are right it is old, but you speak as if that is only o'er there.

just curious, thanks.

That's just one.
And the one I most frequently see.

Rachel Maddow on MSNBC.
She does the best commentaries.

Our local ABC affiliates, WBAY in Green Bay, and WISN in Milwaukee.

has yet to do any credible job on energy policy, for example, or labor, or a slew of other issues that are not convenient to the owners. They have a clear pro corp bias.

All of them, (and I do mean ALL,) are bought-and-paid-for by polluting industries.

Just saw an ad on MSNBC talking up Scott Walker's record.

You guessed it, the Koch brothers' "Americans For Prosperity."

you want to find out what ELSE is going in the US, you need to look at those who ARE doing it, at the moment they are the Guardian. BBC, RT and Al Jazeera. And those are from the top of the list. I could include Milenio, and Deutche Welle in the list easily.

They all have agendas as to why or how they will cover these aspects, but they are just as tendentious and propaganda driven as ABC is. You just need to understand what is driving them. Once you do, it is easy to get the useful nuggets out.

You need to get out more, and I mean out of the country, and watch news somewhere else. becuase we are extremely sheltered as a nation. To the point that we refuse to think there is a world out there.

As I wrote when I was in Mexico oh three weeks ago, I learned more in a week of their energy policy and energy policy reform, GASP I know, than I have learned of American Energy Policy in three years of looking at it, and I have to claw my way through specialized material to get it. It is NOT on my TV, it is NOT on my daily. That IS a problem when we talk climate change. Then again, they are NOT in denial, or rather, those who are, well are not in charge of the government. (Boehner I am looking at you)

Secretary of Energy Coldwell and the Secretary of Education were on my TV too, two positions that here you will rarely hear from. Hell, their secretary of the interior has to run from cameras often. Secretary Jewell does not have that problem, and people would not recognize her in the street either.

I grew up with a very controlled press that could not do any of that. Ours is incredibly controlled. Get out more, I mean it.

The World News Polka!

interviewed Paul Wolfowitz(?) on the current situation in Iraq. Now that's responsible reporting!

Oh, the irony. Pot. Kettle. Black.

I don't mind reading it for that purpose, but nobody should be treating it as factual news.

...because something "nice" was said about Israel. Yet, the very next statement the man catches himself about to say "the Jews" and instead blames "Jewish American leaders" , that makes the bigotry a-ok in some people's minds. This was the quote from the video in question (from V&M) following the speaker saying Israel is an OK country:

(1:28-1:37) "The real problem are the Je---...is the leaders of the American-Jewish community in the United States who influence and corrupt our Congress to support Israel when we have no interest there."

Nope! No anti-Semitism there!

I think most on this site can weed through the bullshit, whether from RT or The New York Times. Well, the old-timers at least...

Vladimir Putin playing the piano like an 8 year old beginner and then singing Fats Domino's "Blueberry Hill" while random bemused celebrities awkwardly clap along: