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and the coming "revolution".
Expect more of this on a daily basis:
Just-released police footage showed a tense standoff between Kalamazoo, MI cops and a man carrying a rifle down the street last month, a situation eventually required the entire block to be shut down as a SWAT negotiator tried to convince the man to surrender his firearm.
Michigan laws allow residents to carry firearms but not to brandish them. After several emergency calls reporting an elderly man, possibly intoxicated and definitely in pajama pants, wandering down the street with an automatic rifle, cops responded and tried to detain him for jaywalking. He resisted the officers, gave his name as Joe Schmoe, yelled about open carrier rights, yelled about revolution, accused the officers of being gang members, at one point repeatedly grabbed his crotch, and dared the officers, Why dont you fucking shoot me?
I am not going to die because youre angry with me, the negotiator told him. At one point an officer is heard to say that the man had far exceeded his open carry rights.
The negotiator eventually convinced the man to surrender his rifle, which was returned to him the next day.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/video-of-swat-standoff-with-open-carrier-why-dont-you-fcking-shoot-me/
No charges were filed and his gun was returned to him the next day.
Stallion
(6,474 posts)hell in Dallas this week Dallas police shot a man with a known mental condition for brandishing a knife
TexasBushwhacker
(20,161 posts)packman
(16,296 posts)I hope they at least billed him for the time and effort of them saving his life. Make him pay in some way.
enough
(13,255 posts)It's not at all uncommon for people with dementia to act irrationally with their guns. The paranoid hostility is a common indicator.
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)billh58
(6,635 posts)a background check to buy even more guns.
InfoWingerWatch
(78 posts)Last edited Mon Jun 16, 2014, 02:20 PM - Edit history (1)
Here in lies your problem.
This guy can walk around public streets drunk with a rifle and they return the weapon to him the very next day, Adam Kokesh and Alex Jones can incite people to kill cops and its called free speech, Cliven Bundy can amass a private army to post guns at law enforcement, set up checkpoints and harass the media, One of the Las Vegas shooters (a convicted Felon) could openly walk around Bundy ranch with a gun all the while law enforcement sat on their hands and did nothing.
Can you guess what these privileged people have in common?
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)I was thinking the same thing when I watched the video.
Oddly enough,Kalamazoo has a racial profiling problem too.
http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2012/10/citizens_voice_concerns_with_k.html
freshwest
(53,661 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)And Black Panthers were hunted down and killed. I SEE a big difference.
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)starts shooting.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)I'd say he falls under the "brandishing weapon" rule.
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)pointing it at anyone.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)screaming about the coming revolution while refusing to give his name with a young,black guy doing the same.How long would the young,black guy live?
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)The cops would have been afraid for the lives and the gun crowd would be cheering.
Warpy
(111,222 posts)since he's nowhere near being "well regulated" enough to join a state militia, if we still had them.
I'm so sick of gun loons getting their way on everything. I'm sick of being a little afraid all the time because bullets will pass through my walls almost like they're not there (and my tail light was cracked by a drunken jackass firing his gun down the block). I'm so terribly sick of seeing children killing each other because some loon didn't feel safe unless he had a loaded gun with the safety off lying around where he (and the kids) could grab it at any time.
I'm happy to say the drunken jackass has spent some jail time and isn't back yet. I'm sad to say that with such lax enforcement of gun crime that he'll probably get his guns back, get a snootful, and resume his career of getting drunk and firing his gun down the street.
Spirochete
(5,264 posts)a homeless man with an unopened pocketknife, or they'd have shot him...
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)I have a hard time understanding why the police department didn't refer this to the DA
progressoid
(49,961 posts)ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)Sounds like the city/county needs a new DA.
Lots of mishandling of the situation by the cops, too.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth