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cali

(114,904 posts)
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 03:35 PM Jun 2014

Hillary Clinton has demonstrated that she will say anything to get elected

she's a pandering opportunist; a corporate crony to banksters and was unrepentant about her craven vote for the IWR for years. In fact, she's still not repentant about her bloody vote.

And sorry, but her association with these folks is none too savory:

Through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the Fellowship. Her collaborations with right-wingers such as Senator Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) and former Senator Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) grow in part from that connection. "A lot of evangelicals would see that as just cynical exploitation," says the Reverend Rob Schenck, a former leader of the militant anti-abortion group Operation Rescue who now ministers to decision makers in Washington. "I don't....there is a real good that is infected in people when they are around Jesus talk, and open Bibles, and prayer."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/09/hillarys-prayer-hillary-clintons-religion-and-politics

And let's not forget her race baiting comments- it wasn't just bill:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/08/clinton-obama-not-winning_n_100763.html

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Hillary Clinton has demonstrated that she will say anything to get elected (Original Post) cali Jun 2014 OP
Oh boy... another attack Hillary thread whistler162 Jun 2014 #1
*yawn* Lil Missy Jun 2014 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jun 2014 #39
And you have demonstrated that you will say anything! William769 Jun 2014 #3
And she was born in Kenya too! edbermac Jun 2014 #4
Where is Cali claiming that? Scootaloo Jun 2014 #8
Funny, but not a very compelling response. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #16
So is it "The Family" or "The Fellowship"? Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #5
They're the same thing starroute Jun 2014 #24
All seems very Dan Brown (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #25
Except that this stuff is real (nt) starroute Jun 2014 #30
Oh joy! Suziq Jun 2014 #6
Oh joy! corkhead Jun 2014 #26
She is the epitome of an ambitious politician and "not as bad" candidate. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #7
Ah, if there aren't a couple of anti-Hillary threads started by you MineralMan Jun 2014 #9
I believe her MFM008 Jun 2014 #10
dupe bigtree Jun 2014 #11
Yeah, and where's her birth certificate? MohRokTah Jun 2014 #12
trying to marginalize criticism rooted in fact cali Jun 2014 #18
And why have we not seen her marriage certifiacte? MohRokTah Jun 2014 #19
Globe magazine says (this week) that Chelsea is Webster Hubbell's child (spitting image and all) Boomerproud Jun 2014 #34
It's her turn LittleBlue Jun 2014 #13
This thread is brought to you by Obsession by Calvin Klein. Metric System Jun 2014 #14
I think you mean Cali Klein wyldwolf Jun 2014 #36
In her defense... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2014 #15
That was my vary first thought. FreedRadical Jun 2014 #27
So you're saying we've got someone who's as slick as a Republican potentially running? Rstrstx Jun 2014 #17
...but YOU saw through her evil plot... brooklynite Jun 2014 #20
Elected to what? No one put their hat in the ring. JaneyVee Jun 2014 #21
Yeah, and she's a secret Muslim Stealth Candidate, educated at Harvard to bring sharia law... joeybee12 Jun 2014 #22
How do you "reel this in" once she becomes our candidate?? DCBob Jun 2014 #23
he/she said she'd leave DU until after the general wyldwolf Jun 2014 #37
It's Republican attack Hillary month Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2014 #28
LOL... SidDithers Jun 2014 #29
There is zero evidence she is still associated with them. joshcryer Jun 2014 #31
I don't think she was race-baiting. That would have been an absurd strategy. Vattel Jun 2014 #32
She's not much different than her husband in that regard joe_sixpack Jun 2014 #33
lawdy Puzzledtraveller Jun 2014 #35
How ironic. blue neen Jun 2014 #38
Let the insanity begin... Same people as back in 2008. Stand and Fight Jun 2014 #40

Response to Lil Missy (Reply #2)

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
5. So is it "The Family" or "The Fellowship"?
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 03:50 PM
Jun 2014

There was a thread about "The Family" earlier that suggested that Hillary was a fan of Hitler, Stalin, and Mao. Is "The Fellowship" something different?

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
26. Oh joy!
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 07:35 PM
Jun 2014

The daily attack the messenger thread.

No comment about the actual quotes referenced in the links?

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
7. She is the epitome of an ambitious politician and "not as bad" candidate.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 03:54 PM
Jun 2014
Now, the man on the stand he wants my vote,
He's a-runnin' for office on the ballot note.
He's out there preachin' in front of the steeple,
Tellin' me he loves all kinds-a people.
(He's eatin' bagels
He's eatin' pizza
He's eatin' chitlins
He's eatin' bullshit!)

Bob Dylan

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
9. Ah, if there aren't a couple of anti-Hillary threads started by you
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 04:02 PM
Jun 2014

each day, I begin to worry if you're feeling OK.

I read them all. They are very telling. I wonder just how far you're planning to take this, but I guess I'll just have to wait and see.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
12. Yeah, and where's her birth certificate?
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 04:06 PM
Jun 2014

And we know she says she's Christian, but we all KNOW she's really an Arab Muslin.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
18. trying to marginalize criticism rooted in fact
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 05:19 PM
Jun 2014

with links to quotes, by conflating it with tea party absurdities, is contemptible.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
19. And why have we not seen her marriage certifiacte?
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 05:21 PM
Jun 2014

How do we know Chelsea is really Bill's child?

Boomerproud

(7,940 posts)
34. Globe magazine says (this week) that Chelsea is Webster Hubbell's child (spitting image and all)
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 09:03 PM
Jun 2014

but I thought Hillary was the lesbian girlfriend of Vince Foster and had him "suicided". Usually Globe has the lottery on which Clinton is dying within the next few months.

FreedRadical

(518 posts)
27. That was my vary first thought.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:14 PM
Jun 2014

Even before I read the OP.

I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you, that there is gambling going on in this casino.

Rstrstx

(1,399 posts)
17. So you're saying we've got someone who's as slick as a Republican potentially running?
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 05:17 PM
Jun 2014

If that's the only way to win 2016 sign me up! Too much is at stake, people who think the country will vote for a far-left candidate are as delusional as the freepers who think the country might elect a Ted Cruz.

I know you don't care for her and that's fine, you're entitled to your opinion, but a lot is at stake here, especially on the social front and the SCOTUS. If it takes a "pandering opportunist" to win then bring her on, if she could win big in 2016 by taking some southern states in addition to the states Obama took it could give her a stronger mandate to govern.

There's also one inconvenient fact a lot of people on here are going to have to get over: most self-identified Democrats actually like her, more so than in 2008.

And if you want to try and discredit her don't worry, the right wing is already on it like stink on caca.

brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
20. ...but YOU saw through her evil plot...
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 05:22 PM
Jun 2014

Those 17 million Democrats who chose to vote for her in 2008 just couldn't see through her disguise, right?

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
21. Elected to what? No one put their hat in the ring.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 05:33 PM
Jun 2014

If you wanna bash Hillary why even post here? It's like going to a religious forum to bash Jesus. It comes across as trollish.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
22. Yeah, and she's a secret Muslim Stealth Candidate, educated at Harvard to bring sharia law...
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 05:50 PM
Jun 2014

Sorry, wrong smear...move along

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
32. I don't think she was race-baiting. That would have been an absurd strategy.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:42 PM
Jun 2014

Probably she was just trying to be accurate. When she said "hard working Americans" were supporting her, she realized that that would imply that black Americans supporting Obama were not hard working. So she added "white Americans" to make her claim more precisely accurate. For the most part hard working white Americans were supporting her. Hard working black Americans were supporting Obama. You could interpret her remarks to be race-baiting, but you could also interpret them to be innocent attempts at accuracy.

joe_sixpack

(721 posts)
33. She's not much different than her husband in that regard
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:51 PM
Jun 2014

Or most other politicians. We'd like to think the politicians we support are above that sort of thing, but alas, few are. I'd like to run across one that stuck to the truth in most cases, and might even vote for a person like that no matter the party, simply because it's so rare. I cringed a bit when I heard her response, but it's not unexpected coming from her. I guess we just roll with it. There's too much invested in her running. Money, favors etc. Bill is invested too. I doubt if there will be a vigorous challenge and no one will want to cause too much damage to the brand in a contentious primary a la last seasons republicans fiasco. If she's already got a lock to be the nominee, we just accept that it's her or the other guys, and support her as we can.

Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)
40. Let the insanity begin... Same people as back in 2008.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 02:50 AM
Jun 2014

Dragging out the same old bullshit now as they did then. Tiresome...

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