Though his accomplices are all talking ... ABOUT GOING BACK INTO IRAQ!

Who knew he would go on from doodling to painting.

Complete with a stars insignia for the wing. Coffee stains realism. Guy does have talent. For killing people.

behind us.

In fact I suggest a Constitutional amendment that pardons all presidents, vp and those that serve them.

Thank you, Napkinz.........

I stole that last one and it is in the breeze of my emails.

"Impeachment is off the table." Has there ever been a more STUPID STATEMENT IN US HISTORY? Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Rove and the lot of them should have been in the dock at the Hague just like the Nuremberg Trials, but NO: Impeachment was off the table!

I remember screaming at the top of my frail lungs the day she said that. And then my heart sunk. As it made one thing perfectly clear: we do live in two Americas. One of accountabiles, (you and I, the 99%, We the People) and one of unaccountables (them, the 1% and the Congressmen who do their bidding, i.e. TPTB.)

when I heard that we were waiting and then heard that shit,but I have always felt that way about the two Americas now more than ever.

Five plus years is more than enough time for Obama to get his arms around the situation. Blaming Bush now makes you look incompetent.

I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.

Trying to pretend that Bush can be ignored when dealing with the current mess requires either willful nearsightedness, ignorance of facts, or both. There is no "clear the table, start a new game now" event in politics or economics. Bush's legacy, Clinton's, Poppy's, Reagan's, all have relevance and impacts in their time, as well as in the present.

are actually needed.

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I thought I was responding in regards to Post #3 above.

I do support what you said, though, too.

Thanks much, napkinz.

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

Thanks for that.

His mission was accomplished, the fucking of America that is. These guys always project.

And you saved the best to the last.

that I live in such a red county, I may have to adopt your phrase.

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as war criminals. It was deleted almost immediately, amazed it is allowed now.

I also lost a job offer writing for the local rag because I sent in an article based on all this. Editor said I could write anything I wanted and turned white as a sheet when he read it. Never heard from him again.

But today I think most members agree Bush and Cheney should be tried as war criminals.

Ezra Klein
June 17, 2014

-snip-

This is crucial context for the Iraq War. The Bush administration didn't just want to invade Iraq because of Saddam Hussein's (nonexistent) stockpile of illegal weapons. They wanted to invade Iraq to create a liberal, democratic counterweight to radical Islam. They wanted to create a country that would, through its glittering example, erode the foundations of Iran's theocratic regime and al Qaeda's deadly ideology.

It was called the Democratic Domino Theory. First Iraq would become a beacon of political freedom and economic success. Then, one by one, the populations across the rest of the Middle East would rise up and force their countries to follow. The war on terror wouldn't end with a fight. It would end with a vote.

-snip-

The totality of the Bush administration's failure in Iraq is stunning. It is not simply that they failed to build the liberal democracy they wanted. It's that they ended up strengthening theocracies they feared.

And it's not simply that they failed to find the weapons of mass destruction that they worried could one day be passed onto terrorists. It's that a terrorist organization now controls a territory about the size of Belgium, raising the possibility that America's invasion and occupation inadvertently trained the fighters and created the vacuum that will lead to al Qaeda's successor organization.

And all this cost us trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives.

http://www.vox.com/2014/6/17/5817910/the-undeniable-proof-that-the-iraq-war-was-an-utter-disaster

Even though Iraq told the USA to get out, and we did, going back means Obama now owns it.

Or he could prosecute the war criminals but he won't, oh well.

Don't you think you're jumping the gun?

President Obama has said we are NOT going back in.

It's McCain, Graham, Wolfowitz, Kristol, Cheney and the rest of the Neo-Con gang looking to re-fight the war.

nt

SF Operators

I think of ago bunch of folks here need to be going on down to the local recruiter and join up.

are you sure you came to the right message board?

Pres Obama has sent in ground troops after he removed them. He now owns it

Stating a fact about what is going down is not attacking the President either.

In other words, the Iraqis OWN it. It's on them.

We're not re-fighting Bush's f'ed up war.

Those advisors did not come home till 1975.

I guess the 300 'advisors' Pres Obama sent to Iraq are members of the Peace Corps who just all happens to wear Green Berets and carry M16's.

Johnson escalated that war.

You are making a jump/leap again.

Monday pres Obama said no troops yester troops arrived but announced today

Spin faster next time

nt

And of course the war machine would love to bomb the shit out of Isis.

Each did have a child in the military during these wars - don't remember whether it was Afghanistan or Iraq.

The rest of the chickenhawks - Cheney with his Vietnam deferments, yes.

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Or is that three? That family needs to be deposed. On the scrap heap of history with the rest of the fine nobs.