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ColesCountyDem

(6,943 posts)
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 07:02 PM Jun 2014

I finally lost it on Facebook today, and this rant cost me 27 'friends'!

"The most appalling part of the unfolding tragedy that is Iraq's civil war is that it was completely predictable and was, in fact, predicted by many, many experts on the Middle East! Further compounding the tragedy is that those lonely voices who urged restraint and/or development of a well thought-out 'occupation-and-exit strategy', like then-head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Shinseki, were either shouted down or shoved aside by the ravenous warmongers, their cheerleaders and others hell-bent on toppling that admittedly despicable thug, Saddam Hussein.

Iraq was and is not Japan or Germany, both of whom we occupied after the end of WW2. Both of those nations had largely homogenous populations, unlike Iraq, yet the U.S. and its democratic allies still meticulously planned for 3-4 years what would be absolutely necessary to establish stable, post-war, democratic societies in those conquered nations. Rebuilding and stabilizing Japan and Germany took MASSIVE amounts of resources and more time than was involved in winning the war itself, yet history clearly shows that it was worth it to do so.

I sincerely hope and pray that a workable solution can be found to stop the civil war in Iraq, but I want to hear NOTHING-- not ONE D*MN WORD!-- from the Cheneys, Wolfowitzes, et al, who created the mess! They had their chance, and the blew it, so they need to shut up and sit down!

/rant over"

I may have lost 'friends' over this post, but DAMN, did it feel good to get this off of my chest!

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I finally lost it on Facebook today, and this rant cost me 27 'friends'! (Original Post) ColesCountyDem Jun 2014 OP
27! Wow! All my friends would love that, CCD! Cha Jun 2014 #1
Most of mine did. LOL! ColesCountyDem Jun 2014 #3
Ohhhh I love that.. You have a lot of Friends! I can see Cha Jun 2014 #32
You know that many people on Bush's staff? immoderate Jun 2014 #2
LOL! n/t ColesCountyDem Jun 2014 #5
I guess they just can't handle being wrong because that seems mild to me. pa28 Jun 2014 #4
Interestingly enough, every single Iraq vet friend 'liked' the post. ColesCountyDem Jun 2014 #6
They say old hippie like it's a bad thing... riqster Jun 2014 #47
I'd rather be known as an old hippie than an old dumbass. hobbit709 Jun 2014 #69
Second that! Sounds like a well-reasoned essay, not a "rant". (nt) PosterChild Jun 2014 #20
Indeed. Welcome to DU. pa28 Jun 2014 #56
Great rant! greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #7
Yes'm, that how I see it. ColesCountyDem Jun 2014 #8
You go fella!!!!!!!! (or lady??) n/a onecent Jun 2014 #9
Y chromosome here! ColesCountyDem Jun 2014 #10
You'll never believe how I lost one a couple of weeks ago KamaAina Jun 2014 #11
lol, that's it? wonder what her "issues" are eShirl Jun 2014 #67
Methinks the lady doth protest too much. KamaAina Jun 2014 #76
Now you know. 27 fewer idiots in your life. ancianita Jun 2014 #12
And 270 fewer Farmville requests per day. n/t christx30 Jun 2014 #78
Oh, that. I make blanket announcements that I don't want any posts from any games or the poster gets ancianita Jun 2014 #83
Cool story Egnever Jun 2014 #13
I'd happily share that if we Skidmore Jun 2014 #14
A righteous rant and it's spot on. Arkansas Granny Jun 2014 #15
I'll borrow this and see how many facebook friends I can scare off wyldwolf Jun 2014 #16
Next Time, Don't Forget McCain and Romney Leith Jun 2014 #17
Republicans are terminally spoiled brats IkeRepublican Jun 2014 #18
you spoke the truth Botany Jun 2014 #19
They were never friends Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2014 #21
And how many of these "friends" do you actually know? LVdem Jun 2014 #22
Meh! RoccoR5955 Jun 2014 #23
We will reap the same harvest in Libya, bvar22 Jun 2014 #24
Yet another good reason not to post on Facebook Tommy2Tone Jun 2014 #25
Well said. k&r n/t Laelth Jun 2014 #26
Good for you! Treant Jun 2014 #27
Those 27 people were not your friends. Love your "rant". LoisB Jun 2014 #28
Well, when they give you grief, give 'em this... madamesilverspurs Jun 2014 #29
Bet you feel better now malaise Jun 2014 #30
Facebook is so over anyways. Vattel Jun 2014 #31
You gained a friend here! AAO Jun 2014 #33
This has been making the rounds lately... The_Commonist Jun 2014 #34
True and apropos here, but most likely not a Lennon quote. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2014 #63
That quote was from Ben Franklin NewJeffCT Jun 2014 #68
Lol! Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2014 #86
Most likely not... The_Commonist Jun 2014 #70
Just what I thought. I've read just about everything on and by the Beatles and I'd never heard that Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2014 #87
I rate that as "Annoyed" or "Mildly Angry". Half-Century Man Jun 2014 #35
You didn't need those friends anyway. A nice housecleaning. Squinch Jun 2014 #36
Who killed more people? SCVDem Jun 2014 #37
If I was one of your Facebook friends DesertRat Jun 2014 #38
When it comes to friends, think quality, not quantity! DrewFlorida Jun 2014 #39
Real friends exist in the real world. badtoworse Jun 2014 #40
Well, the truth hurts, I guess. (nt) paleotn Jun 2014 #41
You didn't lose any friends.. sendero Jun 2014 #42
whoever you "lost" over that very reasonable and calm post was no friend. niyad Jun 2014 #43
Post them this article- Status of Forces agreement ErikJ Jun 2014 #44
Forget about it... ReRe Jun 2014 #45
If 27 people bailed on you because of that, I'd call it a win. BobTheSubgenius Jun 2014 #46
I left FB tom_kelly Jun 2014 #48
Whatever you 'lost' in false 'friends', you've more than gained IrishAyes Jun 2014 #49
As rants go, I don't think that was offensive at all. Martin Eden Jun 2014 #50
Friends are overrated.. giftedgirl77 Jun 2014 #51
I don't think you lost it G_j Jun 2014 #52
Sometimes a good house cleaning is in order Zambero Jun 2014 #53
Does anyone realize that Gen. Shinseki KauaiK Jun 2014 #54
Easy for the GOP The Wizard Jun 2014 #57
I'm rather surprised... nikto Jun 2014 #55
Maybe those 27 people onecaliberal Jun 2014 #58
Screw FaceBook, you'll always have us. nt TeamPooka Jun 2014 #59
What is Facebook anyway? nolabels Jun 2014 #64
But, but, but..... AngryDem001 Jun 2014 #60
To the best of my knowledge, I'm the only leftie in my entire (blood) family. pablo_marmol Jun 2014 #61
How could anyone not agree with you. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #62
The truth is hard to hear. blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #65
Even Pat Robertson knew it was a mistake rpannier Jun 2014 #66
That wasn't losing it. That was thoughful, concise, accurate. You needed to lose those 27 "freinds". marble falls Jun 2014 #71
There is one more diffferencce sulphurdunn Jun 2014 #72
I culled that herd a long time ago. crim son Jun 2014 #73
That was mild. Your 27 "friends" must have been LibDemAlways Jun 2014 #74
friends jawbreaker Jun 2014 #75
Good job! Most people don't seem to have friends these days anyways. raouldukelives Jun 2014 #77
Not A Big Facebook Fan, But DO Have An Account ChiciB1 Jun 2014 #79
They just don't like history lessons get the red out Jun 2014 #80
My younger brother unfriended both me and our nephew... Blanks Jun 2014 #81
Your 27 friends will surely be replaced ... MrMickeysMom Jun 2014 #82
I'm not even sure I have 27 facebook friends to begin with DFW Jun 2014 #84
I've said some stupid things that my ex pastor PatrynXX Jun 2014 #85

pa28

(6,145 posts)
4. I guess they just can't handle being wrong because that seems mild to me.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 07:09 PM
Jun 2014

I'll go out on a limb here and guess that "friends" in question were suggesting you loved Saddam back in 2003.

ColesCountyDem

(6,943 posts)
6. Interestingly enough, every single Iraq vet friend 'liked' the post.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 07:11 PM
Jun 2014

I was called 'an old hippie' by a couple of recently-departed 'friends'.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
47. They say old hippie like it's a bad thing...
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 09:47 PM
Jun 2014

I say it when I look in the mirror in the morning!

Speaking as a Freak-in-good-standing, your rant is pretty mild, compared with the actions you are excoriating. Anybody who bails on you for that needs a thicker epidermis.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
11. You'll never believe how I lost one a couple of weeks ago
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 07:16 PM
Jun 2014

She had a sex conference (srsly; she has an advanced degree in sexuality studies!) in Monterey last week, and headed up to SF/Berkeley afterwards (the degree is from SF State; she has kept her 415 cell digits while living in Atlanta!)

My crime? Daring to point out that San Jose is almost precisely midway in between. "I am deleting you. You need to respect that I am married! I do not appreciate these requests to hang!..."

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
83. Oh, that. I make blanket announcements that I don't want any posts from any games or the poster gets
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 02:39 PM
Jun 2014

hidden...so tired of the wasteful use of a internet technology. Of course, relative to STEM uses, mine are trivial, as well. Who knows, maybe all this technology keeps us from getting out the pitchforks.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
16. I'll borrow this and see how many facebook friends I can scare off
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 07:27 PM
Jun 2014

Usually my gun control posts cause some to unfriend me.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
17. Next Time, Don't Forget McCain and Romney
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 07:29 PM
Jun 2014

If I were on Facebook, I would send you a friend request.

You are well rid of those warmongers.

IkeRepublican

(406 posts)
18. Republicans are terminally spoiled brats
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 07:29 PM
Jun 2014

They're so used to having their asses kissed, they stomp around and throw their toys when someone doesn't go along with their garbage.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
23. Meh!
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:07 PM
Jun 2014

I say these sort of things all the time.
It's a good way to separate the wheat from the chaff as far as your Facebook "friends" go.

I do know what you mean about Iraq, though one did not have to be a Middle East "expert" to predict it.
We knew, when we were told by Wolfie that the Iraq war would cost very little, that he and the rest of the war mongers were lying.

We knew that Shrub just wanted to get Saddam, because of the threat that was posed to Poppy Bush. It had nothing to do with 9/11, no matter how many times that were told it did.

We knew that this was going to profit the companies that were doing the ancillary duties like logistics, or food service, or the like. We knew that they were robbing WE THE PEOPLE blind, in favor of them, the corporations.

Worry not that you lose friends over this, because the ones that remain, are the ones that really matter. The ones who can see through the bovine fecal material, and actually think for themselves, rather than be spoon fed the propaganda.

I only hope that this results in more rantings like this from you on Facebook, and as many other outlets are out there. Heck, turn one of them into a letter to the editor at your local paper. Chances are, it will get published, because few folks write letters to the editor any more. Not to mention, they are always looking for alternative points of view.

Keep it lit, and keep it strong.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
24. We will reap the same harvest in Libya,
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:07 PM
Jun 2014

....though there were far fewer DU voices raised in opposition on DU.

Tommy2Tone

(1,307 posts)
25. Yet another good reason not to post on Facebook
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:11 PM
Jun 2014

All I do is like pictures or visit with my family. I do all my evilness on Twitter.

The_Commonist

(2,518 posts)
70. Most likely not...
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 08:26 AM
Jun 2014

...indeed!

I had never heard that quote until a couple of weeks ago. If John had REALLY said that, chances are I would have heard it years ago.

However, it HAS been making the rounds lately!

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
87. Just what I thought. I've read just about everything on and by the Beatles and I'd never heard that
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 08:00 PM
Jun 2014

from Lennon! As noted in my link, he seems to have become a fave for bogus quotation attribution online.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
35. I rate that as "Annoyed" or "Mildly Angry".
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:43 PM
Jun 2014

In my not very humble opinion, you show a notable lack of blunt force trauma words (swearing, name calling, pointing out the failing of anyone's ancestry) for your post to be called a "Rant". I realize each of us has our own style, but I don't see that making anyone cry.

It is however a clearly thought out, well expressed, succinct summation of many people's frustration.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
36. You didn't need those friends anyway. A nice housecleaning.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:45 PM
Jun 2014

And in Germany and Japan, the US didn't inexplicably fire the entire government. They kept the lower level people to keep the trains running and give them local advice on infrastructure. The way we did it in Iraq defies all of our experience and all logic.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
37. Who killed more people?
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:56 PM
Jun 2014

Sadaam or Bush?

Who had WMDs?

You didn't need to be an expert to see this result coming. It was predicted by many, including Joe Biden and DICK Cheney.

DrewFlorida

(1,096 posts)
39. When it comes to friends, think quality, not quantity!
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 09:02 PM
Jun 2014

You spoke you mind, they couldn't handle it, that's their problem! You'll be better off without them.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
40. Real friends exist in the real world.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 09:05 PM
Jun 2014

Facebook is fun, but it's a poor substitute for real interaction with real people.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
42. You didn't lose any friends..
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 09:10 PM
Jun 2014

... that were worth keeping. Nothing you said was untrue, and I've said it in a much harsher way

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
44. Post them this article- Status of Forces agreement
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 09:23 PM
Jun 2014

Right-Wing Media Ignore Iraqi Resistance To Status Of Forces Agreement To Blame Obama For Violence

Right-wing media have claimed that the current violence in Iraq is the result of the 2011 withdrawal of U.S. troops in Iraq and President Obama's willful failure to secure a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with Iraq's Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. In reality, Iraq refused the terms of a SOFA with the U.S. despite Obama's efforts to maintain a military presence there. more

http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/06/16/right-wing-media-ignore-iraqi-resistance-to-sta/199742

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
45. Forget about it...
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 09:29 PM
Jun 2014

One always finds out who their friends are when they fall on hard times or stand up for what they believe in. It's devastating when you've fallen on hard times, but in this instance it should make you feel exhilarated. And sounds like you are. Congratulations!

tom_kelly

(958 posts)
48. I left FB
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 10:00 PM
Jun 2014

because it turned out to be too political in my circle. It was 2012. I grew up in a heavily red town in NJ and I just didn't fit in to the discussions/delusions too well at that time. I found myself disliking people I was good friends with.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
49. Whatever you 'lost' in false 'friends', you've more than gained
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 10:05 PM
Jun 2014

by your righteous rant. If I could've said it so well, I would've. Thank you for saying it for us.

Remember, Dr. King also said something about how society will sometimes condemn you for doing the right thing, but that's nothing compared to what your conscience will mete out if you don't.

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
50. As rants go, I don't think that was offensive at all.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 10:12 PM
Jun 2014

Anyone who would unfriend you over that has their head up their ass because they like how it smells.

KauaiK

(544 posts)
54. Does anyone realize that Gen. Shinseki
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 11:06 PM
Jun 2014

is one and the same that was recently run off by the GOP from the VA. He IS an honorable man.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
55. I'm rather surprised...
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 11:10 PM
Jun 2014

That was actually a rather mild "rant", IMO.

Your righty friends must be a thin-skinned bunch, indeed.

Were they really significant as "friends"?

onecaliberal

(32,826 posts)
58. Maybe those 27 people
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:16 AM
Jun 2014

Should get over to Iraq and be the first to "defend freedom".
I agree with your rant wholeheartedly. The phuckers who lied us into war should be sitting in a jail cell.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
64. What is Facebook anyway?
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 04:41 AM
Jun 2014

I a have heard some things about it, but really could never see a need for such.

I figure who needs friends anyway, it's so much easier just to talk to yourself

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)
61. To the best of my knowledge, I'm the only leftie in my entire (blood) family.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 04:14 AM
Jun 2014

I pretty much have to stay away from politics, but I do "nibble around the edges" from time to time.

I have to believe that the RW's have me pegged.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
62. How could anyone not agree with you.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 04:28 AM
Jun 2014

This is why so many of us were against the war to start with. The US shouldn't spend another life or dollar in pursuit of Iraqi security.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
72. There is one more diffferencce
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 09:24 AM
Jun 2014

between the occupations of WWII and what happened in Iraq. The purpose there was to loot the US treasury and Iraqi resources, not rebuild a nation. Since the thieves got away with it and are even feted for it, it was successful.

crim son

(27,464 posts)
73. I culled that herd a long time ago.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 09:37 AM
Jun 2014

Sorry you lost so many "friends" but you may find there is a silver lining, i.e. your page will be much more relaxing to read.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
77. Good job! Most people don't seem to have friends these days anyways.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:31 PM
Jun 2014

Just business associates and others like themselves in the same hierarchical power chain they call a career.
Living each day lying to themselves as they tiptoe around issues and statements that might affect the precious corporate ladder they are climbing. Jamming that nose deep into the racist, selfish, anti-environment gospel their peers preach as they secretly wish they had the courage you have so eloquently displayed here.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
79. Not A Big Facebook Fan, But DO Have An Account
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:58 PM
Jun 2014

that I set up when I was involved with Occupy Movement here in Florida. Recently someone contacted me about some posts I made through ATP Tennis, I scratched my head wondering HOW they knew about it. Says volumes about my lack of Facebook use, seems I left it open to the public! I didn't care because I rarely use it.

BUT, today I got kind of upset! I LOVE SQUIRRELS, have raised many and feed them all the time. All I have to do is walk outside and start talking and they start climbing down my oak trees! So, listening to Stephanie Miller on FSTV and it seem PREIBUS resurrected the squirrel they used back when they went after ACORN!

My avatar on Facebook is a squirrel with a camera, I LIKE it but seriously hate to think anyone would think I'm a Repuke or use a squirrel for a reminder. Seems they've decided to use The Giant Squirrel to start digging around for info on Hillary and implying it's because she's NUTS!

An absolute INSULT to squirrels IMO, not that I'm one who is fully behind Hillary. Still, if I have to I'll vote for her. DadGumIt! Leave my squirrels alone!

BTW, nice rant, sorry about your friends unfortunately Life Happens! I have a Repuke sister who's also a fundamentalist Christian, but we get along fine, AS LONG as we stay away from and religion!

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
81. My younger brother unfriended both me and our nephew...
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 01:20 PM
Jun 2014

Because he shared an urban legend and my nephew shared the snopes article.

We were just pointing out that it wasn't true. I have a niece who has filled up on the right wing kool-aid that unfriended me as well at about the same time.

This is why they live in Idaho and I live in Arkansas. I'm thinking of moving a little farther away.

They can kiss my ass.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
82. Your 27 friends will surely be replaced ...
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 01:47 PM
Jun 2014

Of course, you'll always have your friends at the NSA "liking" what you have to say!

DFW

(54,357 posts)
84. I'm not even sure I have 27 facebook friends to begin with
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 02:59 PM
Jun 2014

But I'm pretty sure I wouldn't lose a one of them over a rant like yours.

Well done!!

(remember......"with friend like that, who needs.....&quot

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
85. I've said some stupid things that my ex pastor
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 05:38 PM
Jun 2014

would have defriended me but no he never did. He knows full well I disagree with his abortion stance. (which is more babies are killed via abortion than any illness or war. which is utter fiction but I'm not a facts man so I can't back myself up. I can't tell on FB when someone defriends me. I can tell when they do friend me. only way I find out is I comment on their page and find out do you want to friend this person. uh wait what??

Nobody wants us back in Iraq.

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