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NO more LIES . . . (Original Post) Triana Jun 2014 OP
Can I get a double Recommend? liberal N proud Jun 2014 #1
+1 e100 n/t RoccoR5955 Jun 2014 #2
Severely ctsnowman Jun 2014 #3
K&R stage left Jun 2014 #4
Absolutely spot on MissDeeds Jun 2014 #5
The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks Own And Control The Politicians That Own And Control Us cantbeserious Jun 2014 #6
So very true! & the dumber they keep the 99% the better! Hence they are against education. hue Jun 2014 #15
In the last 30 years dotymed Jun 2014 #7
The PLAN is to make America a new third world country HangOnKids Jun 2014 #9
And they - packman Jun 2014 #11
BAM! HangOnKids Jun 2014 #12
I agree, but I caution those in power who think its a good plan... Moostache Jun 2014 #19
+1 n/t Triana Jun 2014 #16
A big part of the Corporate Megalomaniacs' plan to protect their hegemony chervilant Jun 2014 #13
I doubt it. The brainwashing of the populace by the propaganda wing of the Republican Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2014 #27
No kidding! chervilant Jun 2014 #28
The name sounds familiar, but I don't recall actually watching it. I'll have to check it out. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2014 #35
I am not calling for violence either. dotymed Jun 2014 #31
K&R. Overseas Jun 2014 #8
And their govts Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #10
For sure!!! K&R!! hue Jun 2014 #14
And another thing... doxydad Jun 2014 #17
Me: Ford. n/t Triana Jun 2014 #18
Who can buy a new car? Half-Century Man Jun 2014 #20
In the '70's, I dotymed Jun 2014 #32
What is the point of living in a developed country Half-Century Man Jun 2014 #33
Yep and for every person against this there are hundreds investing in the same corporations. raouldukelives Jun 2014 #21
K & R Iliyah Jun 2014 #22
Same applies to illegal immigrants joeglow3 Jun 2014 #23
I'm supposed to respect, "business?" nilesobek Jun 2014 #24
righteous. kick navarth Jun 2014 #25
Excellent post. K&R Louisiana1976 Jun 2014 #26
And our government continues to let this happen bigwillq Jun 2014 #29
Our 'government' sold-out long ago. PeoViejo Jun 2014 #30
That's for damn sure. bigwillq Jun 2014 #34

ctsnowman

(1,903 posts)
3. Severely
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 08:09 AM
Jun 2014

limit the use of H1B that is being used to drive down the wages of the people they can't outsource as well.

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
7. In the last 30 years
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 08:44 AM
Jun 2014

college tuition has increased 1200%. This is just an example of how TPTB are destroying America. Wages have decreased (adjusted for inflation) immensely during the same period.
Except the wealthy, whose "earnings" have astronomically risen while their taxes have dramatically decreased.
Extreme poverty-vs-extreme wealth and the 80% of Americans who are going into poverty (quickly) still haven't United and put a stop to this.
It is insanity.

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
9. The PLAN is to make America a new third world country
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 09:17 AM
Jun 2014

Then they wont have to send jobs overseas; they can stay here with the new uninsured, non union workers, living in poverty, right here in America!

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
19. I agree, but I caution those in power who think its a good plan...
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 10:38 AM
Jun 2014

Those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it...oft said, true; but in this case, with the complete frontal assault on the gains of the New Deal and the post-war income distribution that was a big part of the shared prosperity from 1945-1975 is a time bomb.

World War I (1914-1918), the Great Depression (1929-1939), and World War II (1939-1945) forced Western society to rebuild itself with a more equal footing than the Gilded Age that preceded those seismic events in human history. For that period of time, 1945-1975, especially in America, there was a greater shared prosperity than at any other time in the civilized age. People legitimately had a chance to rise out of the station they were born into through opportunity and education. Now both are being strip mined for "profits" and the disparities are too much to bear for millions already.

The powers that be should be more cognizant of the eventual end game for such wealth disparities - it is always the same, whether the Romans losing their empire to the Barbarians and internal strife or the French aristocracy losing their heads or the Russian Tsars doing likewise, or just plain millions of people being killed in mechanized warfare. There is no lasting peace without equality of opportunity and the current perversion of the so-called free-market, paired with the banal and inane denial of climate science and the simultaneous destruction of public education is bringing the future of this country (and much of the rest of western civilization outside of the Scandinavians) to its knees.

The greatest fear I have is that this comes to a full boil before I shuffle off this mortal coil and that the countdown on the timer hits zero with the wrong people in charge...

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
13. A big part of the Corporate Megalomaniacs' plan to protect their hegemony
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 09:43 AM
Jun 2014

is to succor divisiveness among the Hoi Polloi--using race, religion, politics, gender and finances--actually, ANYTHING that works. The corporate megalomaniacs own and control the vast majority of this planet's resources--including human resources--and they want to keep their wealth and their power. That our economic behavior has resulted in this top-heavy radical income inequality is intrinsic, and we need examine this reality. We need to reject the wealth carrot meme--for all our sakes.

The Hoi Polloi is now a ginormous powder keg, needing only a tiny spark to explode into action. The corporate megs realize this, and they are pulling out all stops to squash any potential rebellion. Still, about a third of this nation's 'less fortunate' population cling perniciously to the mythology of wealth and power. These pitiable humans are the water-carriers for the obscenely wealthy, having swallowed the wealth carrot meme--hook, line AND sinker. Thus, do we witness the relative success of the divisiveness engendered by the corporate megs.

However, like the French aristocracy, they will learn the hard way. This is just my humble opinion--I'm not advocating for violence--just anticipating a significant economic shift--soon.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
27. I doubt it. The brainwashing of the populace by the propaganda wing of the Republican
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 08:20 PM
Jun 2014

party has been far too successful. The masses will not rise up against their corporate masters. Stockholm Syndrome and all the rest. Hell, even voting is too much trouble, cuz, you know, both sides are bad (one of the RW memes that most people seem to believe.)

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
28. No kidding!
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 11:00 PM
Jun 2014

And, have you seen "The Century of the Self" (free to view online)? I doubt that many people know who was Edward Bernays, or just how thoroughly we've been propagandized, and trained to covet cheap crap we don't need and can ill afford--like the good little Sheeple we've become.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
35. The name sounds familiar, but I don't recall actually watching it. I'll have to check it out.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 07:45 PM
Jun 2014

That's one of the reasons I hate the TVs in public places, because they seem to me to be such obvious tools for propagandizing us into falling in line with hallow and petty values and lifestyles. I used to read "gossip" mags like Us, but I've come to feel the same way about them. I'm starting to feel like an complete outsider in this society.

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
31. I am not calling for violence either.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:41 AM
Jun 2014

I know that this "significant economic shift" must come very soon. Americans are suffering, dying, committing suicide..etc. because everything, from economics to justice, is severely stacked against us.

Serfdom is unbearable, especially when you realize the phenomenon.

doxydad

(1,363 posts)
17. And another thing...
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 10:30 AM
Jun 2014

How many Americans are driving union made USA cars and trucks? Every vehicle sold new here generates a ripple effect of 230 other jobs. Yet, you see these shitty little KIAs , Hondas and other foreign made autos everywhere. I say, BOOO to those who talk the talk and drive some foreign built vehicle.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
20. Who can buy a new car?
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 10:43 AM
Jun 2014

I'm 54 and only owned 1 new car in my life (a 1985 pontiac), I have owned 9 used cars. Once I was the second owner.

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
32. In the '70's, I
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:47 AM
Jun 2014

could afford to buy a new car every 2 years (which was very wasteful), now I can't afford to repair my 15 y.o. vehicle....it is dehumanizing in our culture.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
33. What is the point of living in a developed country
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:55 AM
Jun 2014

If you are not allowed to participate?
Why is someone else's American dream , my nightmare.
Why is our life the thing sacrificed for someone else's ambition?

A thousand ways to ask the question.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
21. Yep and for every person against this there are hundreds investing in the same corporations.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:40 PM
Jun 2014

Literally leading by example to all they love and live for. A true progressive leads by actions, not words.
And these actions say "Hey, if it is good enough for me. It's good enough for everyone!"

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
23. Same applies to illegal immigrants
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 01:43 PM
Jun 2014

"They work the jobs Americans won't work."

All lies to gain access to the cheapest possible labor.

nilesobek

(1,423 posts)
24. I'm supposed to respect, "business?"
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 03:04 PM
Jun 2014

Its like a crazy cult complete with its consumer addict enablers. Boycott.

 

PeoViejo

(2,178 posts)
30. Our 'government' sold-out long ago.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 07:57 AM
Jun 2014

It is not a Government of the People, for the People and by the People.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
34. That's for damn sure.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 10:37 AM
Jun 2014

This government does not care about the "little people".

Which is why I don't donate any money to any candidates. This government takes enough of my money already. And we get peanuts in return.

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