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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 09:08 AM Jun 2014

Canadian Court Orders Google To Remove Websites From its Worldwide Index

http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/7159/125/

In the aftermath of the European Court of Justice "right to be forgotten" decision, many asked whether a similar ruling could arise in Canada. While a privacy-related ruling has yet to hit Canada, last week the Supreme Court of British Columbia relied in part on the decision in issuing an unprecedented order requiring Google to remove websites from its global index. The ruling in Equustek Solutions Inc. v. Jack is unusual since its reach extends far beyond Canada. Rather than ordering the company to remove certain links from the search results available through Google.ca, the order intentionally targets the entire database, requiring the company to ensure that no one, anywhere in the world, can see the search results. Note that this differs from the European right to be forgotten ruling, which is limited to Europe.

The implications are enormous since if a Canadian court has the power to limit access to information for the globe, presumably other courts would as well. While the court does not grapple with this possibility, what happens if a Russian court orders Google to remove gay and lesbian sites from its database? Or if Iran orders it remove Israeli sites from the database? The possibilities are endless since local rules of freedom of expression often differ from country to country. Yet the B.C. court adopts the view that it can issue an order with global effect.

... The case involves a company that claims that another company used its trade secrets to create a competing product along with "bait and switch" tactics to trick users into purchasing their product. The defendant company had been the target of several court orders demanding that it stop selling the copied product on their website. Google voluntarily removed search results for the site from Google.ca search results, but was unwilling to block the sites from its worldwide search results.

... While there is much to be said for asserting jurisdiction over Google - if it does business in the jurisdiction, the law should apply - attempts to extend blocking orders to a global audience has very troubling implications that could lead to a run on court orders that target the company's global search results.
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Canadian Court Orders Google To Remove Websites From its Worldwide Index (Original Post) Newsjock Jun 2014 OP
This is like trying to stop peer-to-peer file sharing. It won't work. randome Jun 2014 #1
Google IS Big Brother. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #2
They're a corporation. Of course they're greedy. randome Jun 2014 #3
The thing is there haven't been many actual alternatives to Google. gvstn Jun 2014 #5
Fuck this shit. There is no "right to be forgotten". NYC Liberal Jun 2014 #4
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
1. This is like trying to stop peer-to-peer file sharing. It won't work.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 09:12 AM
Jun 2014

Alternatives to Google will spring up more frequently if this is allowed to stand. Who would ever have thought that 'Big Brother' would arrive courtesy of multiple court decisions instead of some sort of coup d'etat?
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Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. Google IS Big Brother.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 09:24 AM
Jun 2014

They already control massive amounts of email, even getting many public universities to stop using their own mailservers and instead use gmail. They're mapping out every address, every street they can, taking pictures. They've got bots constantly crawling around the web to make sure they can cache every bit of data they can get their hands on. They've got facial recognition software working to map out who is who in every picture posted. They're getting into the video business, to capture as much video as possible through 'google glasses'.

The government could slash the NSA budget by 3/4 and simply get a secret court to force google to share everything with them - assuming they haven't already.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
3. They're a corporation. Of course they're greedy.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 09:32 AM
Jun 2014

But much of what they offer, a good number of people want, including street-level views. But for a supposedly Democratic society like Canada to basically control what we can and cannot see is much more worrisome, IMO.
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gvstn

(2,805 posts)
5. The thing is there haven't been many actual alternatives to Google.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 10:20 AM
Jun 2014

All the other search engines seem to parrot back Google results. Does any other search engine actually have thousands and thousands of computers mapping out websites and indexing their contents independently? I haven't found one.

Does anyone know if Bing (the largest competitor) actually starts from scratch to gather their results?

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
4. Fuck this shit. There is no "right to be forgotten".
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 09:43 AM
Jun 2014

If you are accused of something and someone reports on it, the accusation happened -- even if the claim was later proven false.

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