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doxydad

(1,363 posts)
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 09:26 AM Jun 2014

NAILED IT: Absolutely Nothing: A Veteran’s Savage Indictment of the Iraq War

All we fought for in Iraq. All we fought for in Iraq is on the cusp of vanishing. That’s what Mitt Romney says.
Oh, so it’s we now, is it, Mitt?
I must have missed you over there, but it was a busy place. We. The guy who helped set up “pro-draft” rallies and yet somehow managed to avoid service in Vietnam is upset about losing what “we” fought for? We.

Yeah, fuck you, Mitt.

And you’re all welcome to quote me on that.

Somebody stepped into my office yesterday and asked how I felt about it. He wanted to know how I felt about “losing” Iraq.

How do I feel about losing all we fought for?

I don’t know.

First, I’m going to need somebody to explain to me exactly what it was that we were fighting for.

What was it? What is it that we gained, according to Mitt Romney? And what is on the cusp of vanishing? What is that? No, really, somebody please explain it to me.

Because I’d love to know.

The Wikipedia says Operation Iraqi Freedom started on the 20th of March, 2003, which is just another reason why you shouldn’t believe anything you read in the Wikipedia (don’t, just don’t). That’s not correct, the war began a day earlier. See, I was there on the night the war really started, at precisely 2200 hours, on the 19th of March in the Northern Arabian Gulf. I was there when US Navy SEALs and Polish GROM stormed the MABOT and KAAOT oil terminals a full day before Saddam Hussein discovered that his time was finally up. In point of fact, I had arrived there four months before, a few days before Christmas in December of 2002. From the day of my arrival (and before that really) to the day the war started, and for months after, I was a Navy intelligence officer working in support of the invasion force. There’s not much I don’t know about the events leading up to war and the aftermath of the invasion.

Well, not much except for that one little detail.

Why.

All these years later, and I still don’t know why.

Oh, I mean, I know what they told us, sure, Saddam Hussein attacked America on 9-11. Right? That’s what they said, that’s what the Commander-in-Chief told us. Saddam Hussein was in league with Al Qaida, remember? The son of a bitch and his stinking nation of terrorists attacked us. The Iraqis had it coming. And Georgie Boy was going to finish what his daddy started. Hooray! Right? That’s what they said.

Except those of us in the professional intelligence community looked at each other and thought, wait, what? How the hell did we miss that? Saddam and Osama bin Laden are working together? Buwah? But Rumsfeld, he had his own little extra-constitutional intelligence outfit staffed with his simpering cronies who he paid to blow smoke up his pinched grey ass until his colon resembled beef jerky and he sure didn’t have much use for us – after all, we were just the military he had.

Ours, as they say, is not to reason why, ours is to but do and die, right? At least that’s what Rummy told us and you know, you go into war with the Secretary of Defense you have, not the one you’d like to have. And if Rumsfeld says he’s got the real scoop, it must be true? Right? Sure, that justifies his contempt for us, sure it does.

Except, Rumsfeld’s little masturbation fantasy turned out not to be the case.

But hey, never mind that, Saddam Hussein was threatening us anyway, wasn’t he? Sure he was, in fact, that’s the first time you heard the phrase “Weapons of Mass Destruction” isn’t it? The bastard had nukes and germs and war gas and he was just itching to use them on America, wasn’t he? Heck we even had pictures of “mobile weapons labs” to prove it, isn’t that what Colin Powell told the UN and the world? And by damn Saddam had been buying Yellow Cake uranium from Niger, right? Colin Powell wouldn’t lie to us, would he? He was a hero, a general, he wouldn’t send his comrades into war on a lie now would he?

Except all that turned out to be bullshit too, and Colin Powell was either a dupe of staggering proportions or he was the kind of Soldier who would fuck his buddy right in the ass without so much as a reach-around and I’ll leave it up to you to figure which one is worse.

But by the time we figured out we’d been ass-raped by Colin Powell, we were shoulder deep in Iraq, Baghdad was burning, Iraq’s army had thrown down their weapons and taken off their uniforms and had melted into the population, Saddam had vanished and his sons were dead, and the President of the United States had already declared victory from the deck of an American aircraft carrier.

And so, the objective became … what?

Hearts and minds and freedom and democracy and nation building and magic bunnies who fart sunshine and rainbows.

Unfortunately, it turns out we’re real good at the blowing shit up part, not so good at the magic bunnies part.

Which in retrospect, shouldn’t be all that surprising – given that in order to build a civilization it helps if you actually have some vague familiarity with the people involved. Needless to say, we didn’t. And we didn’t care. To America, they were all little brown towelheads, sand niggers, raggedy-assed camel jockeys who ought to be grateful to America for burning down their shitty country. Sunni? Shia? Turkman? Baathists? What’s that? What do you mean they hate each other? They’re all Muslims aren’t they? They’re all Aayrabs, right? What do you mean they hate each other? And it all fell apart, disintegrating into insurgency and murder and bloody civil war – just exactly as anybody who actually knew something about the region and its people and its history could have told you it would. We lost less than a hundred soldiers in the actual war, the “peace” cost us nearly 5000 more. And the Iraqis? Who the hell knows? A hundred thousand? A million? It’s impossible to tell.

And it turns out that freedom and democracy and magic flying bunnies were as elusive as Iraq’s supposed WMDs.

So, what was it again that we were fighting for?

They had no idea what we were fighting for, those saber-rattling Chicken Hawks, the cowardly connected wealthy weasels who’d managed to avoid serving in their own war, who kept their children out of uniform, but just couldn’t wait to send us into one of their own making. They sent us off with parades and marching bands and cheering crowds … and brought the bodies home in secret, hidden away from the TV cameras and the public.

They had no plan and no idea what we were dying for, but they assured us what the war wasn’t about – it wasn’t about religion.

Oh no, sir, we weren’t fighting to eradicate Muslims, it wasn’t about Islam.

The Evangelical Christian religious extremists who started this war told us it wasn’t about religion.

Heh heh, riiiiiight. And Vietnam was really about containing communism. Sure.

Maybe they should have had Colin Powell tell that wopper to the UN, but he’d quit by then and was suddenly as invisible to America as those flag draped metal boxes arriving at Dover Air Force base in the middle of the night.

Americans who a few years before had been proudly waving their little flags as Johnny marched off to war were suddenly all shifty-eyed, they slapped a $5 dollar made in China magnet on the bumper of their giant gas-sucking SUVs, Support Our Troops, and with sardonically raised eyebrows complained to each other over the pumps about the immorality of a war fought for oil.

But that wasn’t true either, was it?

Iraq’s oil fields, the ones we fought and died to preserve on orders from the White House, the off-shore terminals the SEALs and the GROM risked their lives to save on that night back in 2003, the precious Iraqi oil that was going to pay for the war and pay to rebuild the country we’d blown up, well, that oil is nowhere to be found today, is it?

So, tell me again, what exactly is it that’s on the “cusp of vanishing?”

I mean it sure isn’t peace.

It’s not freedom for the Iraqi people, despite the war’s idiotic name.

It sure isn’t regional stability.

It’s not the end of terrorism or the near universal hatred of America in the Middle East.

And now that Halliburton and KBR and Blackwater and Dick Cheney have made their billions and cashed out, it isn’t even about long-term economic investments and American business.

Hell, it’s not even about cheap gas.

So, go on, enlighten me. Because even though I was there, I’ve got no goddamned idea what it is that we’ve lost in Iraq beyond the 4,487 men and women we shipped home in metal boxes, beyond the 32,223 wounded and maimed, beyond the trillions of dollars we spent in our rage and our drive for revenge and our lust for blood.

Today, John McCain and Mitt Romney and the rest of the conservative war machine are railing against the President.

McCain stirred from the yellow fog of his bamboo cage and proclaimed in his best Old Man Yelling At Clouds voice, “We won Iraq! Obama lost it!”

Really Johnny Walnuts? Tell me, what did we win? And what have we lost? Please be specific, because I’d really like to know.

We no more “won” Iraq than McCain’s own father “won” Vietnam.

McCain claims he “predicted” the sectarian violence now tearing Iraq apart. Really? Where the hell was clairvoyant John McCain back in 2003 when he voted along with the rest of them to send us into war? And later, where was his great predictive ability when Iraq began tearing itself apart? I guess he was at a Dixie Chicks concert, he must have been out in the lobby ordering a plate of Freedom Fries when his pal George W. Bush let Iraq disintegrate into civil war.

And so here we are.

The same old motley cast of characters, the warhawks and the chickenhawks and the billionaires and the simple-minded saber-rattlers and the same old hate-filled pundits, they just can’t wait to jump back into Iraq.

Mitt Romney, John McCain, one who never served and one who damned well ought to know better, men who both wanted to be President of the United States and who both lost to Barack Obama, they just can’t wait to send other people’s kids back into the meat grinder.

Here’s my question.

Why?

Why, John McCain?

Why, Mitt Romney?

Why, conservatives?

This time you fuckers goddamned well tell me why.

What’s the goal? What’s the objective? Is it to end terrorism? Is it to enforce peace at the muzzle of a gun? Is it it to make defense contractors rich? Is it for jobs? Or is it for magic flying bunnies who shoot rainbows and cheap gasoline out of their little assholes to the sound of Yankee Doodle Dandy?

Or, or, is it just because you hate Barack Obama?

That’s it, isn’t it?

It is.

You sons of bitches one and all, you simpering capering madmen, this time at least have the courage to face the cameras, to look into America’s eyes, and tell them that their sons and daughters will be dying because you John McCain, because you Mitt Romney, because you Dick Cheney, because you Donald Rumsfeld, because you George W. Bush you lying bastard, because you conservatives hate Barack Obama…and for no other reason.

Go on, tell us, go on. Wave your little flags and beat your fleshy chests, roll out the marching bands and tell us just how many more American soldiers should die. Go on, put a number on it. Ten? A hundred? Fifty four thousand? How many of us have to die? How many more bodies will it take to satiate your mindless hunger for blood and revenge? How many more American lives are worth your insane hatred of the president? How many? How much further into debt should we drive our nation, another trillion dollars? Two? Ten? A hundred? Put a price on it you insane sons of bitches, go on, give me a number, write me a check. Tell me how much you’re willing to pay, show me the goddamned money. How many more years? How many? One? Five? Another decade? Fifty? What is it? Don’t wave your hands and make some vague prognostication, give me a number, how many lives, how much money, how many years? You look us in the eye and you fucking tell us.

I’ll tell you what, let’s go back to Iraq.

Oh, yes, let us do that.

I’ll dig out my uniform and strap on my pistol and gird up my sword and ride into battle yet again.

Just so long as Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, George W. Bush, Rush Limbaugh, Anne Coulter, Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, Paul Ryan, Sarah Palin, Rick Perry, and every single one of those powdered, Botoxed talking heads at Fox News are in the vanguard. That’s right, you cowards, you put on a uniform and you lead the charge this time around. The Koch brothers and Mitt Romney can pay for it, every goddamned penny, we’ll bleed them until they’re dry and then we’ll pull the gold fillings from their teeth to pay for it right along with the rest of their Wall Street cronies. You fuckers got rich off the last one, you can damned well pay for this one. And when you run out of money, we’ll take your blood, fair’s fair.

Strap John McCain into the cockpit of an A-4 Skyhawk and let him fly air cover.

If he gets himself shot down and taken prisoner again, well, you know what? Fuck him, leave him to the enemy because frankly his hate and bile and raging insanity have done more damage to this country than Bowe Bergdahl ever did.

The terrorists can keep him.

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NAILED IT: Absolutely Nothing: A Veteran’s Savage Indictment of the Iraq War (Original Post) doxydad Jun 2014 OP
Wow. tanyev Jun 2014 #1
wow indeed .. Lenomsky Jun 2014 #15
I second the wow, and if I could I'd add in thirds, fourths, etc. Powerful! erronis Jun 2014 #38
Thirds hueymahl Jun 2014 #40
This OP needs a bazillion recs and must go viral. I want every righty to read this..n/t monmouth3 Jun 2014 #2
There are a few with a "D" after their name who need to read it as well. MindPilot Jun 2014 #42
Awesome cleduc Jun 2014 #3
Every American should read this. Baitball Blogger Jun 2014 #4
Or every American should have it read to them..... Theyletmeeatcake2 Jun 2014 #6
This is just amazing. geomon666 Jun 2014 #5
This is one of the best I've ever read here. ballyhoo Jun 2014 #7
Holy shit. MynameisBlarney Jun 2014 #8
Irrefutable smallcat88 Jun 2014 #9
Big fuckin' rec! progressoid Jun 2014 #10
It is sad to say, but the truth is, you were fighting and dying for... the 1% Amonester Jun 2014 #11
Worth a million recommendations. Actually more..... democrank Jun 2014 #12
K & R L0oniX Jun 2014 #13
Best Anti-Iraq War Rant Yet! Stainless Jun 2014 #14
a seriously righteous rant…. dhill926 Jun 2014 #16
Correcto! UCmeNdc Jun 2014 #17
Oh, my. It should be required reading. It's really good. Shrike47 Jun 2014 #18
This is who should be on the media to 'explain' Iraq to the American people. But all I saw sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #19
You put words right on how I feel it and see it and so far how everybody I've discussed it toby jo Jun 2014 #20
EPIC RANT dionysus Jun 2014 #21
Wow! love it. santamargarita Jun 2014 #22
We should e-mail this to every Person we know albino65 Jun 2014 #23
Perfect as written...nothing I can add except a heartfelt K&R (nt) Moostache Jun 2014 #24
Nailed it? He NUKED it! Alex P Notkeaton Jun 2014 #25
K&R raouldukelives Jun 2014 #26
Damn. davidthegnome Jun 2014 #27
Potent and Powerful! Laughing Mirror Jun 2014 #28
K&R mike dub Jun 2014 #29
Bravo! tweeternik Jun 2014 #30
+1000000 K&R nt brer cat Jun 2014 #31
K&R nt redqueen Jun 2014 #32
"What is it that we gained, And what is on the cusp of vanishing? What is that?" phantom power Jun 2014 #33
Truth. n/t bluesbassman Jun 2014 #34
Freaking wow! malaise Jun 2014 #35
... napkinz Jun 2014 #36
The fault in the Republicans' thinking is that Iraq is a situation that can be improved JDPriestly Jun 2014 #49
Bookmarked for later study. Nt N_E_1 for Tennis Jun 2014 #37
The original acronym Operation Iraqi Liberation(OIL) was quickly dropped, benld74 Jun 2014 #39
Best post/rant ever!! nt DocMac Jun 2014 #41
... napkinz Jun 2014 #43
+1000 JDPriestly Jun 2014 #50
I love that! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #51
But, but... Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2014 #53
A crushing indictment of the Bushies blackspade Jun 2014 #44
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #45
Proud to make it 153. rhett o rick Jun 2014 #46
K&R beemer27 Jun 2014 #47
ONE WORD In Support Of This... BRILLIANT! ChiciB1 Jun 2014 #48
Best rant I've read... Whiskeytide Jun 2014 #52
Now that is a voice I'd vote for. JEB Jun 2014 #54
Wouldn't you love to see... 3catwoman3 Jun 2014 #55
Incredible piece missmo1951 Jun 2014 #56
How well I remember Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2014 #57
Let's not forget the altarboy Tony B Liar intaglio Jun 2014 #58
Link posted on my Facebook Timeline Petrushka Jun 2014 #59
Nailed it. ctsnowman Jun 2014 #60

Lenomsky

(340 posts)
15. wow indeed ..
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 11:16 AM
Jun 2014

first word in my head after reading.

Wouldn't it be awesome if this made the front page of a News Paper ... hopefully this will go viral on the interweb.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
42. There are a few with a "D" after their name who need to read it as well.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 03:47 PM
Jun 2014

Those who ignored the thousands upon thousands of voices telling them exactly why invading Iraq would be a really dumb idea and yet they voted for the IWR anyway.

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
5. This is just amazing.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 10:12 AM
Jun 2014

And should be plastered all over Facebook, Twitter, and every other social media outlet you can possibly find.

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
8. Holy shit.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 10:48 AM
Jun 2014

This going on my facebooks as soon as I get home.
This needs to be spread far and wide and repeated loudly.

smallcat88

(426 posts)
9. Irrefutable
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 10:56 AM
Jun 2014

It's one thing for those of us sitting safely at home to condemn the war but we don't carry nearly as much weight. This is an irrefutable case from one who was actually there. We should all email this to every righty responsible for the war. As well as those calling for us to return.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
11. It is sad to say, but the truth is, you were fighting and dying for... the 1%
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 11:09 AM
Jun 2014

Well, more like the 0.00001% to enrich themselves more, more, and more, because they never, and I say never have enough.

That's what the Capitalist system is for, don't you know it already?

democrank

(11,084 posts)
12. Worth a million recommendations. Actually more.....
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 11:11 AM
Jun 2014

This post makes all the war enabler excuses sound like utter tripe. Pure crap. No, worse than that....despicable lies that killed and maimed and ruined people. Actual people.

I`d love to see some of the Sunday Program Chickenhawks wander around the VA with my other half and I. They`d learn a thing or two about who fights wars and who pays the price for them. It certainly isn`t the lounging chest beaters like (5 deferment) Dick Cheney.

What a shallow, ugly thing it was ....when so-called leaders insisted they were "proving" love of their country by wearing cheap, Made-in_China flag pins. "With us or with the terrorists" became a handy sound bite. Imagine....sound bites used to fool citizens about a war that killed or maimed their sons and daughters.

Unforgivable.





Stainless

(718 posts)
14. Best Anti-Iraq War Rant Yet!
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 11:15 AM
Jun 2014

This OP should be required reading for every RW moron who believes that any of the leftover, Bush-era, war pigs are even relevant.

Mitt Romney deserves an extra special 'fuck you' for his hypocritical interjection into the dialogue. He should keep his ignorant opinions regarding the war for his 'family home evening' circle jerk.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
19. This is who should be on the media to 'explain' Iraq to the American people. But all I saw
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 11:29 AM
Jun 2014

so far yesterday, was William Crystal itching for MORE war, and not just with Iraq this time, but with Syria and Iran. Because according to Crystal it is the fault of this president that we didn't crush Syria the same way we supposedly crushed Iraq.

The lies will continue until someone has the guts to put an end to them, and the ONLY WAY to do that is to PROSECUTE THEM. But now it may be too late.

As always, the Left was right. And as always, the Left was attacked, I remember 'you are politically naive, you can't prosecute them because it would 'look political'. Well I don't see THEM worrying about 'looking political'. In fact they are blatant about it.

 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
20. You put words right on how I feel it and see it and so far how everybody I've discussed it
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 11:36 AM
Jun 2014

with sees it, too.

If we had a righty in office we'd be over there already. Hell, we would've been in Egypt, too, and then Syria.

 

albino65

(484 posts)
23. We should e-mail this to every Person we know
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 11:54 AM
Jun 2014

and ask them to e-mail it to every person they know. This should be posted to facebook and shared with everyone we know. I have copied and pasted this to a document on my computer in case it is "disappeared". I will print this so I can read it over and over. This is truly a "lest they forget" piece. This man is a hero.

 

Alex P Notkeaton

(309 posts)
25. Nailed it? He NUKED it!
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:18 PM
Jun 2014

Best fucking thing I've read this year!

(I'm surprised that Paul Wolfowitz, John Bolton, and Bill Kristol aren't included in his proposed vanguard of reentry, but that's a minor point.)

I hope Wright has a Twitter account, 'cause he is someone I'd like to follow. Hell, I'd like to put him in the Oval Office!

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
26. K&R
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:21 PM
Jun 2014

All for the Wall St cronies and the remorseless masses pumping money into them daily.
If you can't beat them, invest in them!

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
27. Damn.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:29 PM
Jun 2014

Absolutely brilliant, justified, awesome. One of the best rants I have ever had the privilege to read. Huge K & R.

Laughing Mirror

(4,185 posts)
28. Potent and Powerful!
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:40 PM
Jun 2014

I would rate it right up there with Harold Pinter's Nobel Prize (2005?) magnificent denunciation of the lies of the war and of the liars ... another one for the ages.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
49. The fault in the Republicans' thinking is that Iraq is a situation that can be improved
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 07:43 PM
Jun 2014

by killing more people.

It's not going to work. War is not going to resolve anything in Iraq.

Nor will money.

Allowing the country to divide itself might help, but then what do I know?

But based on our experience in Iraq in the past -- we fought there twice, first under Bush I and then under Bush II -- our taking on their battles has not helped anyone at all.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
53. But, but...
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 08:09 PM
Jun 2014

They "served" in their own special way. Ya know, in the way that benefits only them and their cult.

beemer27

(458 posts)
47. K&R
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 06:19 PM
Jun 2014

Thank Heavens someone learned some lessons from this war. Only a few of us learned anything from the cluster that was Vietnam. There are still people who believe that we accomplished something there. At least with the communications and internet that we currently have, more people like this will get the word out. The losers that are "in charge" of this country have plundered so much already that it is hard to believe they would want to go back for seconds. They don't care as long as it is someone else who is bleeding and dying so that they can steal a few more bucks.
I wish that there were more people who are as articulate and passionate as the author of the above. Perhaps they could wake some of the brain dead public up. It is too late, but it might help the next generation if we actually had some real facts and thought about it before starting another war.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
48. ONE WORD In Support Of This... BRILLIANT!
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 07:21 PM
Jun 2014

Loved reading this! EVERYONE should have to read it, but well too many won't even dare! Explained it all!

3catwoman3

(23,943 posts)
55. Wouldn't you love to see...
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 11:03 PM
Jun 2014

...Willard and John "Crash" McCain try to spout their BS to this gentleman's face? I would.

Well said, sir, well said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

missmo1951

(21 posts)
56. Incredible piece
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 12:40 AM
Jun 2014

Thank you for the most powerful words I have read since the Declaration of Independence.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
57. How well I remember
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 02:37 AM
Jun 2014

hearing the audio of our first night of bombing in 2003..."shock and awe" Rummy called it. I'd call it murderous brutality, not to mention terrorism.

K&R

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
58. Let's not forget the altarboy Tony B Liar
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 03:11 AM
Jun 2014

Who was the yapping chihuahua at Dubya's heels and who is again trying to sell the UK into war.

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