But I guess they doubled down and are now going to lose even bigger.

happened to her..but they're going for it anyway. Callous and quite foolish of
the police and WalMart.

I hope the family gets a great amount of money..maybe they'll think next time
and change policies as a result.

now.

Trust is something that should always be earned, like respect!

in situations..really..freakin hair band theft and they respond with such force??
She was innocent..but lets say she was not. How is such conduct necessary
and or warranted, regardless.

We want her to feel like she can be part of the community and not be afraid,
that trust has been broken and we need to push back on these tactics.

I hope they both get their asses sued off.

well done. now you've opened more eyes.

like cold hard cash.

One thing is sure: if it happened in Walmart it's one tape. As for this story, I highly doubt store security and the local PD sprinted up and body slammed a compliant angelic innocent young lady. That probably didn't happen.

A. In the real world that kind of thing is astonishingly rare. Most police and security are professionals who would no more assault an innocent teen as they would deliberately run over a puppy.

B. If that really were what had happened the media would have heard just that from dozens of witnesses, and that would be the headline. Instead, the headline was "Parents sue Walmart over ARREST..." Not assault, not ass kicking, but arrest. No officers have been suspended, no Walmart employees are facing charges, nothing.

C. The ONLY source for the story is the family filing the lawsuit, and their entire story is designed to solicit sympathy for their angelic innocent snowflake. "Jodi just wants an apology — and a bouquet of flowers. That’s what apologetic people do in the movies, she told her parents" My gosh, what a sweetheart! Such a sweetheart it took store security plus FOUR police officers to control her when she flipped out.

D. The police AND Walmart, after reviewing the tapes, have both basically told the family to get bent. Even Walmart, and they are not exactly known for sticking up for their employees. If that doesn't tell you something, it should.

Classy: "Jodi just wants an apology — and a bouquet of flowers.

We'll see what develops.

The likely reason is contained in the article. This adult woman went absolutely batshit crazy, screaming at the top of her lungs and physically resisting efforts to restrain and control her. The officers don't KNOW she is disabled, for all they know she's whacked out of crystal and armed with a machete. Instead of suing Walmart and the police and demanding apologies, the family aught to be apologizing to the store employees and police for failing to properly control their daughter -- and they should be thanking these officers for not taking the easy (and safer) solution of simply Tasering their precious snowflake.

precious snowflake...you're trying to pass cynical and now run your opinion about the
family into the ground with hostility.

We're done here.

The Japanese Whaling ships should just sink the Greenpeace activists who attempt to stop their whaling.

Oh yes.

http://election.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4443666

you think it doesn't make any sense, but when you read that reaction and this reaction, it kinda starts too!

People and police had been told by the grandmother and mother over the phone that she was a developmentally disabled adult. It looks to me like the authorities escalated the situation by trying to handcuff her when she was getting more upset, reaching for her grandmother, and she went ballistic over being touched. They were in the interrogation room, not in the middle of the store. The girl had probably been trained since childhood to scream if someone tries to handle her, purely for her own safety.

All of this shit over two-bit hairbands that she had already paid for. It looks to me like this was mishandled even if she had not been disabled. You don't arrest them; just take them to the front to pay for them.

The grandmother can say anything she likes, but that doesn't make it true then -- or now. The police cannot just write off the girl's behavior -- not when that behavior is genuinely suspicious. That's where the story as told by the family seems to fall apart. They are glossing over the key moments to focus instead on her disability, as if her issues trump everything else. But they don't.

I work with kids who have developmental issues and challenges all the time. I go out of my way to help them in every way I can, I think I'm pretty good at it, and their parents often express surprise at how much we were able to accomplish. Happened just last weekend in fact. But guess what? Developmental issues are no excuse for unacceptable behavior. I have never had a kid like this cause even the slightest issue, but if it happened I would not tolerate it.

Disabled child, I never assume any child melting down is not disabled. It is trickier for adults, but if a family member is telling me "She's autistic" or another diagnosis, I'm not going to wait for a doctor's report to be faxed over to me before i change my approach in dealing with her, especially if it clearly isn't working. The key is to knowing what calms them as well as what sets them off, and that can vary due to sensory issues. The level of disability will greatly impact how long it takes for them to learn to cope with issues in public. Some families are homebound for years.

She may be 25, but her environment might not have provided her or her family with the training they needed. Not everyone had ABA experts available in their schools 10 years ago.

I am really sick of reading about over-reaction on the part of the military state LEOs over shit like a hairband or something else. It wasn't a freaking felony.

I doubt there were "dozens" of witnesses in there. In fact, I would guess that there were only the "professionals" and grandma as witnesses, so yeah we're only getting "one side" of the story. Do I believe there are responsible cops out there? Sure, but I also know for a fact there are authoritarian jerks who use excessive force first and ask questions later.

Guess the legal proceedings will reveal which was the case here.

Doesn't matter if she was a devil with horns; she's a mentally disabled child.

First rule of flack-catching: deny everything. Do you think the police and Walmart are going to say, "after reviewing the footage, we went apeshit on someone with the mental capacity of an 8-year old"? Maybe you need a hug and bouquet.

Yet do I fear thy nature,
It is too full o' th' milk of human kindness

It's bloody easy to always "one-up" the compassion of someone else when all you are doing is talking about it.

Real world you have a twenty five year old woman, either completely mental or going postal on PCP or meth, repeatedly shrieking at the top of her lungs and violently refusing to cooperate when confronted by store security. In the fantasy world of online compassion racing you would rush up with a big old hug and hand her an ice-cream sandwich and a puppy and everyone would laugh and congratulate you on your empathic skills. But in the real world you would be protecting any kids near you while you hustled for the nearest exit, probably scared shitless.

I ran into a very similar situation at a Chile's Restaurantant late last year. Guy just completely freaked out, screaming, yelling, refused to leave when confronted by management. A few waiters tried to grab him and escort him out and he was having none of it. He fought them off and continued storming around the dinning room. Out of a room full of terrified men, women, kids, and employees, I was the ONLY guest who stood up to this guy and blocked him from the diners cowering in the back of the room.

NO ONE said, "Wait just cone minute! This guy might be mentally handicapped!" That's absurd. Why would anyone care if he was? Handicapped doesn't mean you have blanket screaming freak-out privileges. In fact, it doesn't entitle you to any special behavior at all. Society doesn't have to tolerate someone's bullshit just because they have problems.

Who let Walmart management on DU?

Indeed. I do find it rather bemusing when the very individual who suggests we not make assumptions goes on to list a litany of his own...

Holding others to a higher standard than we hold ourselves to is a tell of Walmart managers...

I spent years on Walmart Watch union blog. Walmart management (and this can be the lowest level department manager) have "drunk the corporate Kool-Aid" so deep they are compelled - compelled! - to defend Walmart anywhere and anytime.

And you perfectly describe Walmart management standards!

It is a tell!

THAT is very telling...

I love how you found an excuse to sneak in the story about how you were a badass at Chile's this one time. I know you think it's relevant here, but it really isn't.

I ran into a situation similar to this at a park a couple years ago. I was a bit more cautious, as my children were there. I don't give a flying fuck what the cause is, I am not letting someone who is acting batshit crazy near my kids.

What precisely is absurd in attempting to discern all relevant knowledge to any given situation?

(Very creative allegations on your part though. I'll certainly give you that...)

The store security detained an innocent person and started this chain of events that lead to physical abuse of a person they knew was disabled.

There's a reason store security has to make damn sure the person shoplifted. And the judgment/settlement will drive that point home to both the police and Walmart.

This family is looking for an easy paycheck, but I suspect it isn't gonna happen.

"REC" mean you "RECOMEND" the thread, not that you agree with the original post.

it's not like you posted below and said, the OP is completely wrong and I can't believe it's here.

It's a bit creepy that you have bookmarked links to this stuff that I don't even remember. Serious business much?

but you don't remember recommending it.



also, the defense that you didn't want anyone to remember what you posted or that you recommended is sad and not plausible.

The point was that you have records of my "recs" on threads that I do not even remember until reminded. Do you do this stalking thing with everyone, or am I just lucky to have you around? Whatever the answer by all means keep at it. It will be good to know that someone is reading my posts.

so you recommended it because you didn't agree with it?

interesting.

If you want to know my position on anything, don't assume you know, just ask. If I feel like it I will tell you. I rec posts that I think other people will want to see. There isn't any real rhyme or reason behind it, but then I clearly don't take my forum activities anywhere near as seriously as you do.

Not that there is anything wrong with it. A job is a job.

which is it buddy?

or are you just messing with us in this thread?

which?

A 24-pack would have been ridiculous, but a 30-pack? Hell, they should have brought out the tasers and tear gas, dammit! What kind of lawless society have we become?!?

I went for the facetious, crazy-over-the-top vibe, but someone with a straight face had beaten me to it.

Horrifying.

If it wasn't for the NRA, we would be able to impose a capacity limit on the clips.