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babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 09:36 PM Jun 2014

Banned In Fresno: Veterans Demand Fox News Be Turned Off – Fox News Whines

http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=16756


Banned In Fresno: Veterans Demand Fox News Be Turned Off – Fox News Whines
Posted by Mark NC on June 16, 2014


A local TV station in Fresno, California did a rather trivial story about a waiting room at a Veterans Administration pharmacy. The story concerned an allegation that Fox News had been banned from the televisions at the facility. So the reporter sent one of his veteran buddies into the pharmacy to pretend to want to view Fox News. Whereupon they discovered that the channel was not accessible.

That set off a flurry of outrage over at the Fox News mothership. They aired panicky segments on this massive censorship plot on multiple programs, including America’s News Headquarters, The O’Reilly Factor, and Fox & Friends. In each case they characterized the situation as a blatant attempt to silence Fox News due to their reporting on the scandalous backlogs and corrupt management at some V.A. hospitals. The only thing wrong with these reports was – well – everything.



First of all, there was no attempt to censor Fox News. A spokesperson for the facility made it clear that that the channel was removed because of patient concerns. At least some of the patients explicitly objected to Fox News and the resultant controversy created an uncomfortable environment.

“It was just a misunderstanding. We’ve had a lot of veterans with diverse personalities. A lot of veterans complaining about one news station or the other, so the intent was really to be fair and equitable and take all stations off. [...] We’ve had several incidents of veterans actually arguing, fighting over the different news stations. Some wanted to watch news, some did not. Others wanted to watch specific stations.”


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It’s pretty nauseating that Fox regards not being able to watch their network for a few minutes as comparable to being abandoned in wartime. Especially so soon after their repulsive coverage of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, whom they defamed as a deserter, a traitor, and a jihadist, before any hearing or even getting his version of events.

Some Fox commentators literally advocated for Bergdahl to be abandoned to his Taliban captors. So Fox hardly has the moral authority to use rhetoric about “abandoned brothers” in their programming. But you can always expect them to make themselves a part of every story with an emphasis on how victimized they are by the rest of the media. That’s the sort of behavior generally exhibited by crybabies who can’t accept not getting their way.
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Banned In Fresno: Veterans Demand Fox News Be Turned Off – Fox News Whines (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2014 OP
I complained in a local restaurant about FOX, I was told it was a condition of the TV being there liberal N proud Jun 2014 #1
Dictators. I would tell them I wouldn't be eating there anymore to be subjected Cha Jun 2014 #3
I have told several of them that. liberal N proud Jun 2014 #6
That could be a + Cha Jun 2014 #7
YOU are better off for it Plucketeer Jun 2014 #11
Good for your health! roody Jun 2014 #50
I'm afraid I would have said that fox noise tavernier Jun 2014 #5
A simular issue in the Tucson airport, bartender was flustered when. Nobel_Twaddle_III Jun 2014 #9
Fox PAYS businesses to show their lies Joe Bacon Jun 2014 #19
That is SERIOUSLY effed up. dorkzilla Jun 2014 #26
TVs in restaurants are annoying... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2014 #57
I couldn't agree more! dorkzilla Jun 2014 #63
I hear you... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2014 #67
Fox pays for the Tv's & cable bills..that's mind bogglingly massive deviousness! stuffmatters Jun 2014 #56
And cocksbro dollars are also funding this propoganda machine erronis Jun 2014 #65
Why do you think their programming has ratings as high as it does. alphafemale Jun 2014 #62
Yep. Fox's numbers are totally skewed. Ikonoklast Jun 2014 #68
That is a question worth some research. jwirr Jun 2014 #25
Fox pays the cable bill and they show only Fox WhiteTara Jun 2014 #28
I think that's true in McDonalds. Jackpine Radical Jun 2014 #31
Some McDonalds. Depends on the franchise. backscatter712 Jun 2014 #32
I have to tell you this story (really funny) ... aggiesal Jun 2014 #35
Funny, I did exactly that several years ago for our breakroom TV at work Populist_Prole Jun 2014 #40
I was sitting in a bar a couple of weeks ago. iscooterliberally Jun 2014 #41
That's hilarious underpants Jun 2014 #51
FAUX has given thousands of TVs to public areas randr Jun 2014 #42
It's an important part of their narrative of themselves nxylas Jun 2014 #44
We quit eating at a place because they would not turn Fox off SoCalDem Jun 2014 #52
kick & recommended. William769 Jun 2014 #2
It's called blowback, stupid.. Cha Jun 2014 #4
FIXED Noise knows their viewers are ADDICTED. If they go cold turkey, they might stop watching it. freshwest Jun 2014 #8
Normal people don't care what Republicans have to say The Wizard Jun 2014 #10
And take that flaming A-hole libodem Jun 2014 #12
+1,000 Scuba Jun 2014 #23
I'm sick and tired of TVs mimi85 Jun 2014 #13
Don't know whether the keychain ones do, but we were able to woodsprite Jun 2014 #27
I know what you mean. PADemD Jun 2014 #43
Right around the time of Sandy Hook, the TVs at Temple VA the TVs went more than 75% off Fox. marble falls Jun 2014 #14
This is much ado about nothing. They weren't showing MSNBC or CNN either. totodeinhere Jun 2014 #15
But "much ado about nothing" is what Foxymoron News specializes in... elzenmahn Jun 2014 #18
Interesting that this would happen in Fresno... elzenmahn Jun 2014 #16
"WAHH I CANT WATCH MAH FAAAAWKS NOOOOZ" #FirstWorldProblems nt alp227 Jun 2014 #17
It's amazing the harm this propaganda has done to our democracy since 1996. The Wielding Truth Jun 2014 #20
Faux Snooze should be banned from all public spaces. DLnyc Jun 2014 #21
I complained to my local bank about having Fox News on in the lobby. mnhtnbb Jun 2014 #22
I did a similar thing in my bank libodem Jun 2014 #24
I suggest CNBC for anywhere financial. riqster Jun 2014 #33
It's not news...Fox never attained the level of being actual news. FarPoint Jun 2014 #29
I have a friend with a universal remote app Lee-Lee Jun 2014 #30
"parental controls" PeoViejo Jun 2014 #38
Ooo ooo **waves hand** I want that app too! FailureToCommunicate Jun 2014 #55
I've left places that had that noise on. xfundy Jun 2014 #34
technically speaking a pure news channel doesn't seem to exist anymore PatrynXX Jun 2014 #36
Halleluija!...Good on them! n/t whathehell Jun 2014 #37
I volunteer to take folks to medical visits... bayareaboy Jun 2014 #39
http://turnofffox.org/ James48 Jun 2014 #45
Turning off the TV is not censorship KyleMcShades Jun 2014 #46
+1 (and belated welcome to DU) FailureToCommunicate Jun 2014 #54
Thank you KyleMcShades Jun 2014 #60
I've done this many times -- I always ask 'Why do you have the Nazi Channel on?' byronius Jun 2014 #47
If Fox News had been around during the revolutionary war... Initech Jun 2014 #48
I work at a public university in Michigan & the big plasma TV in the lobby of the building I catbyte Jun 2014 #49
I stopped using an auto garage because of this. The waiting room used to be a neutral place, then.. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #53
I had an argument in NY today! madamvlb Jun 2014 #58
Many Veterans at the San Francisco AsahinaKimi Jun 2014 #59
I wish they wouldn't have TVs or music in public places. Especially ones where you kind of have Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2014 #61
TURNOFFFOX.COM mdbl Jun 2014 #64
I believe in balance. JEFF9K Jun 2014 #66

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
1. I complained in a local restaurant about FOX, I was told it was a condition of the TV being there
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 09:45 PM
Jun 2014

They wouldn't tell me who made that mandate. I wonder if someone isn't funding all these TV's under the condition they only show the propaganda provided by FOX.

Cha

(297,138 posts)
3. Dictators. I would tell them I wouldn't be eating there anymore to be subjected
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 09:56 PM
Jun 2014

to the f**king brainwashing.

Joe Bacon

(5,164 posts)
19. Fox PAYS businesses to show their lies
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 12:32 AM
Jun 2014

I've been to several places where Fox Lies is on all the TV sets. I complained to the manager of a Sizzler, he said there was nothing he could do because Fox PAYS Sizzler to show their propaganda.

I also heard that from a couple delis in Los Angeles. Fox not only pays them, they bought the TV's for the delis to show their lies.

Which is why I took my business elsewhere!

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
26. That is SERIOUSLY effed up.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 10:10 AM
Jun 2014

I purposely didn't install a television in my restaurant because I didn't want some yahoo turning on or even requesting Faux "News". To think they're actually trying to get their bogus info out there by such means isn't surprising at the end of the day, but I'm really surprised that I've never heard of this before.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
57. TVs in restaurants are annoying...
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 05:35 PM
Jun 2014

whatever happened to talking with the people you are eating with? This isn't leveled at you, it is just an observation.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
63. I couldn't agree more!
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 08:48 PM
Jun 2014

But its a breakfast joint, and people are always commenting about how they'd love to catch the news before they catch their train. I just tell them they'll have to content themselves with good old fashioned news print. You'd think I'd told them I had to pull their toenails out.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
56. Fox pays for the Tv's & cable bills..that's mind bogglingly massive deviousness!
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 05:28 PM
Jun 2014

This is a really, really important thread. I doubt most people know that millions of tvs in public places are owned & controlled by Fox propaganda/Murdoch. I'd also read that military bases also have fox news on constantly...again due to the gifted tvs from propaganda central.

This is a really, really outrageous.

And what is Limbaugh doing on Armed Forces network. Isn't the military already rape cultured enough?
Between paranoid Fox News and women hating Limbaugh, this media programmed to our servicemen is recklessly misinforming and hateful.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
68. Yep. Fox's numbers are totally skewed.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 02:06 AM
Jun 2014

The ratings are assigned by how many viewers they believe are watching each set.

Pay for tv's in high-traffic areas, count all the customers as 'viewers'.

Fox has nowhere near the viewers they say they do, it's a scam and any advertiser who doesn't realize they are getting scammed are truly stupid.

aggiesal

(8,910 posts)
35. I have to tell you this story (really funny) ...
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 11:46 AM
Jun 2014

The company where I worked had about half a dozen tv's in the cafeteria all tuned to Fox noise.

My friends and I, requested that the channel be changed to something other than Fox, but the tv's were controlled by a retired ex-navy vet that was hardcore right wing. The set top box controlling the tv's was in a cabinet in the cafeteria, in the open, but locked behind a glass door.

Not giving up, I went and purchased one of these pre-programmed $5 universal remotes. Next time we went to the cafeteria for lunch we sat at the table in front of the cabinet and changed the channel to MSNBC. I think others that arrived in the cafeteria were surprised to see something other than Fox.

About 20 minutes later, the ex-navy vet came into the cafeteria, noticed MSNBC on the tv's, walked to the cabinet, unlocked the glass door and changed it back to fox.

After locking the cabinet he started walking out, when we changed it to a local news channel. Frustrated he turned around and retuned the tv's back to fox. This time we let him leave the cafeteria, then we changed it to ESPN, and it stayed tuned to ESPN as we left.

From that day forward, my fox hating friends would come by my desk to borrow the remote when they would eat at the company cafeteria.

The look of frustration, on the ex-navy vet, was priceless. I don't believe he ever figured out how we could change the channel without his permission, because the IR sensor was never covered up.

If you ever run into this same situation, investing $5 for a pre-programmed universal remote is nothing to keep your sanity.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
40. Funny, I did exactly that several years ago for our breakroom TV at work
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 12:44 PM
Jun 2014

It was being dominated by either RW loons who always put it on fox, or by this one slacker who was always inside watching sports while we were out working, and a small group of us were sick of it. I bought a universal remote, found a code that worked for the TV there, and proceeded to get even in a very satisfying and entertaining way. It was even better since I would do this while those forementioned people were still in the room: Hiding the remote up my sleeve, in my jacket pockets, or even from outside, through the window.

I know they knew who it might be but even then we threw a curve. Since we all have different days off, we would rotate the remote between us so the jerks could never get an idea of who was taunting them by what days of the week it occurred on.

iscooterliberally

(2,860 posts)
41. I was sitting in a bar a couple of weeks ago.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 01:01 PM
Jun 2014

The guy next to me was changing all the channels with his phone. I think he had a Samsung with some sort of free app on it. You probably don't need to buy the remote anymore. I don't know what the app was called. It was a sports type bar, but this guy had Family Guy on all the TVs. It was funny watching the bar try to figure out what was going on.

randr

(12,409 posts)
42. FAUX has given thousands of TVs to public areas
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 02:09 PM
Jun 2014

I believe they use the potential audience from viewers in public spaces to elevate their audience numbers.
I have complained in several businesses that I patronize and have been told that many people complain and in a few instances the channel is no longer the chosen one.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
44. It's an important part of their narrative of themselves
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 02:22 PM
Jun 2014

This way they can point to the fact that their (artificially inflated) viewing figures far exceed those of any other news channel as proof that "people are crying out for an alternative to the liberal media". Likewise, this ban shows the way that real Americans have their media, and by extension their values, suppressed by the liberal elite.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
52. We quit eating at a place because they would not turn Fox off
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 04:30 PM
Jun 2014

There are other places for dinner.. This was more of a diner, but who needs TV at all during a meal?

I can see having a tv for the slack times...or for a sporting event..but for "news"..no way

Cha

(297,138 posts)
4. It's called blowback, stupid..
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 09:58 PM
Jun 2014
"Some Fox commentators literally advocated for Bergdahl to be abandoned to his Taliban captors."

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
8. FIXED Noise knows their viewers are ADDICTED. If they go cold turkey, they might stop watching it.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 10:39 PM
Jun 2014

With the combined music, imagery, sex and verbal manipulation their fans are as far out of reality and awareness as a person kept on an IV of morphine to ease the pain of dying. They are no more conscious than people living in a coma. Can't shut off the juice or they'll wake up - and wake up highly pissed.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
12. And take that flaming A-hole
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 11:49 PM
Jun 2014

Rush off Armed Services Radio. He trashes their Commander in Chief. That is not up lifting for the troops to hear a racist ideolog bitch his head off day in and day out. Harp, rant and rave. Rush is a pedophile junkie who does little kids when he is overseas. His wife is a cover. He needs that Viagra. Oh, so romantic to have your lust inspired by big pharma and Yick who knows what porn and rituals. Yick.

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
13. I'm sick and tired of TVs
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 11:59 PM
Jun 2014

being on wherever you go. And it does seem like the majority are turned to FOX. I went to a doctor recently who even had TVs in the little room while you're waiting for the doc to come in. Ugh. I wonder if those keychain universal remotes really work. I'd love to see the reaction when I turn the TV off.

My primary didn't have one in the main waiting room for the longest time, but now he does and his practice has grown a lot so the wait time has increased. The volume was through the roof. I even asked the nurse why it was so loud. She actually said that the front desk woman needs it that loud so she can hear it. Sheesh! Give me a break.

woodsprite

(11,911 posts)
27. Don't know whether the keychain ones do, but we were able to
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 10:15 AM
Jun 2014

download one to our palm pilot and change the channel in my docs waiting room and in the ER

The nursing staff couldn't figure out what was going on.

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
43. I know what you mean.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 02:11 PM
Jun 2014

If there is no TV, there is music. Last week, I tried to read a book in the doctor's office; and they were playing music so loud and horrible that I had trouble concentrating on my book.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
15. This is much ado about nothing. They weren't showing MSNBC or CNN either.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 12:07 AM
Jun 2014

Since the patients at the clinic couldn't agree on what channel to watch it seems quite reasonable to take them all off.

Now if American Forces Radio would just take take Limbaugh off.

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
18. But "much ado about nothing" is what Foxymoron News specializes in...
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 12:12 AM
Jun 2014

...take something like this anthill of an issue, and blow it up to the size of Mount Shasta for political gain.

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
16. Interesting that this would happen in Fresno...
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 12:10 AM
Jun 2014

...considering that the city, sitting right in the middle of the Central Valley, is quite red politically.

DLnyc

(2,479 posts)
21. Faux Snooze should be banned from all public spaces.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 04:20 AM
Jun 2014

No one should be forced to watch this drivel.

And I do suspect that they use their numbers from their various captive audiences, such as airports, to inflate their viewership numbers.

I always complain politely but pointedly when I see this crap, or even CNN, in a public space, and I boycott any such places whenever possible. I have no doubt that such complaints will eventually get results.

mnhtnbb

(31,382 posts)
22. I complained to my local bank about having Fox News on in the lobby.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 06:10 AM
Jun 2014

They switched it to a local news channel--run by Time Warner--and I can't
remember being in there since and seeing Fox News on again. But, I live
in lefty Chapel Hill.

Funny thing is, the bank is BB&T which supports Brat and his Ayn Randian ways
with a grant to teach Randian thinking at Randolph Macon!

http://www.salon.com/2014/06/13/score_one_for_dark_money_meet_the_ayn_rand_loving_billionaires_behind_david_brat_partner/

libodem

(19,288 posts)
24. I did a similar thing in my bank
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:51 AM
Jun 2014

A few years ago. I complained to the teller. And when that didn't get results I called some person in management and that got the channel changed.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
33. I suggest CNBC for anywhere financial.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 11:05 AM
Jun 2014

Not great, but it beats Fix, and its content fits the venue.

FarPoint

(12,336 posts)
29. It's not news...Fox never attained the level of being actual news.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 10:28 AM
Jun 2014

It's a propaganda machine. I would love such action to occur here in Ohio.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
30. I have a friend with a universal remote app
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 10:32 AM
Jun 2014

She always changes from Faux and if nobody is paying attention sets the parental controls to block them.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
34. I've left places that had that noise on.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 11:28 AM
Jun 2014

"Either change the channel or turn it off," I says.
"No, it has to be on, and on Focks," they said.
"Cancel my order, then. I won't be coming back," I says.

And I never did.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
36. technically speaking a pure news channel doesn't seem to exist anymore
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 11:53 AM
Jun 2014

Fox is an Opinion network. not news. So for the health of the patients who might get a heart attack from the stress.. nothing to see here..

bayareaboy

(793 posts)
39. I volunteer to take folks to medical visits...
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 12:17 PM
Jun 2014

and often sometimes twice a week take folks to Mather VA Hospital from Auburn to South Sacramento. When we get there they have room for those waiting and so-on.

I haven't seen a Faux News program since I have started doing doing this about 2 years ago.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
54. +1 (and belated welcome to DU)
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 05:10 PM
Jun 2014

One year, one post. I admire your restraint,... and like your succinct comment.

byronius

(7,393 posts)
47. I've done this many times -- I always ask 'Why do you have the Nazi Channel on?'
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 03:20 PM
Jun 2014

BOFA lobby, and a few other places.

But the universal remote idea with parental control changes is priceless.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
48. If Fox News had been around during the revolutionary war...
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 03:26 PM
Jun 2014

We'd still be ruled under a British monarchy. Hell, King Henry VIII would have been too liberal for their tastes.

catbyte

(34,372 posts)
49. I work at a public university in Michigan & the big plasma TV in the lobby of the building I
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 03:41 PM
Jun 2014

worked in was tuned to Fox-PAC. I complained loudly & somebody up the chain of command obviously agreed because Fox-PAC was specifically BANNED from the TV. Instead, it showed a mixture of CNN, MSNBC & The Weather Channel (during weather events).

I felt good that I spoke up. Who needs that bullshit polluting young minds?

Tarheel_Dem

(31,232 posts)
53. I stopped using an auto garage because of this. The waiting room used to be a neutral place, then..
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 04:41 PM
Jun 2014

they switched to FNC, and I haven't been back. I didn't ask them about it, I just go elsewhere for servicing these days.

madamvlb

(495 posts)
58. I had an argument in NY today!
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 05:47 PM
Jun 2014

While waiting in line for my appointment in Goshen NY I overheard one vet complain to another that he couldn't watch Fox News, I proudly said "thank god for that"! OMG did I get an earful about how his constitutional rights were being violated! I couldn't stop laughing, I think he needed a blood pressure check!

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
59. Many Veterans at the San Francisco
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 06:22 PM
Jun 2014

Facility refuse to watch or will make a fuss about FOX NEWS being on in the waiting rooms. Some have gotten up to physically change the channel, and one told me even looking at it made his blood pressure go up!!

Gotta love these VETS!!!

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
61. I wish they wouldn't have TVs or music in public places. Especially ones where you kind of have
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 07:39 PM
Jun 2014

to be there, like doctor's offices, etc. I like to listen to my ipod, read, or just have a little peace and quiet. Sometimes the TV is so loud I can still hear it over my music or audiobook. Of course, nattering people can be annoying too, but that's different can of worms.

But if I ever go anywhere with FoxNoise on, I leave. I quit the YMCA for this reason, which turned out great, as I used that money to join out fabulous local yoga studio instead. No TVs there at all.

I feel the same way about places that play "country" music. They seem to be the same places that would have on FoxNoise if they had TVs.

JEFF9K

(1,935 posts)
66. I believe in balance.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:14 PM
Jun 2014

For every hour of blatantly dishonest conservative talk, there should be an hour of blatantly dishonest liberal talk. What, there is no blatantly dishonest liberal talk?

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