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Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 11:59 PM Jun 2014

Glenn Beck: ‘Liberals, You Were Right,’ We Should Never Have Gone into Iraq

Glenn Beck led off his radio show on Tuesday morning with a stirring monologue about all the ways he believes the left and right can come together to “heal” America. As part of that, Beck suggested that perhaps all Americans can come together to recognize the blunder that was invading and occupying Iraq in 2003 — an act that he now regrets having supported.

After listing the Veterans Affairs Department scandal and the fight against Common Core standards as two ways in which the left and right can unite, Beck asserted that “maybe we could come together now on this nightmare in Iraq.”

He then took a contrite tone and admitted [emphasis ours]:

From the beginning, most people on the left were against going into Iraq. I wasn’t. At the time I believed that the United States was under threat from Saddam Hussein. I really truly believed that Saddam Hussein was funding terrorists. We knew that. He was funding the terrorists in Hamas. We knew that he was giving money. We could track that. We knew he hated us. We knew that without a shadow of a doubt. It wasn’t much or a stretch to believe that he would fund a terror strike against us, especially since he would say that. So I took him at his word.
[...] Now, in spite of the things I felt at the time when we went into war, liberals said: We shouldn’t get involved. We shouldn’t nation-build. And there was no indication the people of Iraq had the will to be free. I thought that was insulting at the time. Everybody wants to be free. They said we couldn’t force freedom on people. Let me lead with my mistakes. You are right. Liberals, you were right. We shouldn’t have.


http://www.mediaite.com/tv/glenn-beck-liberals-you-were-right-we-should-never-have-gone-into-iraq/

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Fuck you, Glenn.

This guy built his career on the blood of our troops. In 2003, he staged a series of pro-war "Rally for America" events, where he went from city to city for Clear Channel, cheering the war and mocking the antiwar movement.

Here's the douchenozzle at one of the events:



more here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alexander-zaitchik/past-is-prologue-glenn-be_b_634826.html

He held his grand finale in my hometown of Huntington, WV, and got the cops, the city, the local university, the local media and others to back him, as well as put up every obstacle imaginable to protest his event.

Glenn used the media attention to break from the pack of AM Limbaugh wannabes, raise his profile and land his first TV gig on CNN.

Yet, now, when it's politically convenient for him, he admits he was wrong. If the war were still popular, he'd still be all for it. And, being a Republican hack, there's no doubt the next time a GOP president wants war, Glenn will try to squeeze back into his cheerleader skirt.

Again, fuck you, Glenn. Unless you plan on giving the millions you made to a charity for Iraqi civilians or wounded troops, you're still just as guilty and have blood on your hands. And, even then, it wouldn't be enough.

Fuck you, Glenn, and fuck the Dixie Chicks-boycotting, Freedumb Fries eating morons you call the conservative movement.
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Glenn Beck: ‘Liberals, You Were Right,’ We Should Never Have Gone into Iraq (Original Post) Adenoid_Hynkel Jun 2014 OP
we are right about gun control also JI7 Jun 2014 #1
... YvonneCa Jun 2014 #3
We're pretty much ALWAYS right on the big stuff. calimary Jun 2014 #15
EXCEPT, Liberals NEVER said "there was no indication the people of Iraq had the will to be free." WinkyDink Jun 2014 #2
Exactly! He's saying we were "right" for made-up, fake reasons. arcane1 Jun 2014 #7
Except I'm seeing plenty of DU'ers claiming "Iraqis need a dictator" Scootaloo Jun 2014 #12
Not Quite. jeff47 Jun 2014 #28
The 5 craziest thing Beck has ever said Rex Jun 2014 #4
Schizophrenia is the 1st thing that comes to mind..... alittlelark Jun 2014 #9
He has some kind of a mental affliction, that is for sure. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #27
Beck is just trying to change the frame of the argument, he's still attacking Democrats Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #5
Too late, and a trillion short.... Amonester Jun 2014 #6
beck is one weird asshole d_b Jun 2014 #8
He's an alcoholic that had a moment of clarity Gman Jun 2014 #10
1st you have to admit youre an... bull shitter.................nt ErikJ Jun 2014 #16
Sounds like a good description Mr.Bill Jun 2014 #17
The only thing that the CONservative movement needs RoccoR5955 Jun 2014 #11
Still clinging to that "mistake" idea gratuitous Jun 2014 #13
I agree with you The Traveler Jun 2014 #21
^^^This. nt laundry_queen Jun 2014 #23
You're supposed to get things right in FOREsight not HINDsight johnlucas Jun 2014 #14
Beck is what happens when you chase anti-psychotic drugs with Vicks bearssoapbox Jun 2014 #18
"..there was no indication the people of Iraq had the will to be free." Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #19
No, he sounds just like a southern a-hole during reconstruction Adenoid_Hynkel Jun 2014 #22
It just keeps coming back to ther absolute certainty of their own superiority.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #24
He is a psychopath. Take every word that comes out of his mouth with a grain of salt. QuestForSense Jun 2014 #20
Glen Beck the mystery man polynomial Jun 2014 #25
It wasn't a blunder malaise Jun 2014 #26
Beck forgot to check himself before he wrecked himself Blue Owl Jun 2014 #29

calimary

(81,220 posts)
15. We're pretty much ALWAYS right on the big stuff.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 01:38 AM
Jun 2014

I hate even using that word - "right." It's been hijacked, poisoned, smeared with shit, and utterly perverted. The way the so-called "right" uses it - it's come to define ANYTHING BUT right (as in right versus wrong). But maybe the time has come to take that word back.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
2. EXCEPT, Liberals NEVER said "there was no indication the people of Iraq had the will to be free."
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 12:05 AM
Jun 2014

What we SAID was, "There was no indication the country had WMD's or were involved in 9/11/01."

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
7. Exactly! He's saying we were "right" for made-up, fake reasons.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 12:19 AM
Jun 2014

This isn't some "clock is twice right" bullshit.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
12. Except I'm seeing plenty of DU'ers claiming "Iraqis need a dictator"
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 01:07 AM
Jun 2014
Seems a pretty common sentiment from head-waggers whose knowledge of the middle east comes mostly from "Aladdin."

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
28. Not Quite.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 02:11 PM
Jun 2014

Iraq is an artificial construct created by the British at the end of WWI.

The British had overrun the Ottoman Empire during the war, and divided up the former-Ottoman territory. Unfortunately, the dumbasses drew the lines where they felt like drawing them, instead of drawing them based on any sort of religious, ethnic or political lines.

The result is a massively unstable state. The different groups do not want to be under the rule of the other groups. They want their own countries. So the only thing that can hold Iraq together is dictatorship or something closely resembling it.

That doesn't mean "Iraqis need a dictator". That means Iraqis need to no longer be Iraqis. They need their own countries, just like the Yugoslavians needed their own countries.

Btw, this will cause instability in Turkey, Syria, Lebanon and Jordan as the same ethic groups seek to join with their post-Iraq counterparts. But the original British mistake will be corrected. Waiting just makes the correction more painful.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
4. The 5 craziest thing Beck has ever said
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 12:10 AM
Jun 2014
http://thedailybanter.com/2013/05/5-nuttiest-glenn-beck-quotes-of-all-time/

1. “I’m thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I’m wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. … No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out. Is this wrong? I stopped wearing my What Would Jesus — band — Do, and I’ve lost all sense of right and wrong now. I used to be able to say, ‘Yeah, I’d kill Michael Moore,’ and then I’d see the little band: What Would Jesus Do? And then I’d realize, ‘Oh, you wouldn’t kill Michael Moore. Or at least you wouldn’t choke him to death.’ And you know, well, I’m not sure.” –responding to the question “What would people do for $50 million?”, The Glenn Beck Program, May 17, 2005

2. “Al Gore’s not going to be rounding up Jews and exterminating them. It is the same tactic, however. The goal is different. The goal is globalization…And you must silence all dissenting voices. That’s what Hitler did. That’s what Al Gore, the U.N., and everybody on the global warming bandwagon [are doing].” – The Glenn Beck Program, May 1, 2007

3. “You know, we all have our inner demons. I, for one – I can’t speak for you, but I’m on the verge of moral collapse at any time. It can happen by the end of the show.” – The Glenn Beck Program, Nov. 6, 2006

4. “The violent left is coming to our streets, all of our streets, to smash, to tear down, to kill, to bankrupt, to destroy. It is will be global in its nature and global in its scope” - Values Voter Summit, Novemer 10 2008

5. When you watch Barack Obama, you can just see he is angry….No matter how much power he has amassed, no matter how many friends in the media he has, Americans know. And if they reject it this time, if they’re so dead inside – that’s a possibility – if they’re so dead inside that they can no longer see the difference between good and evil, we have to be destroyed because we will be a remarkable evil on this planet.” - The Glenn Beck Program, 5 November 2012

Uncle Joe

(58,355 posts)
5. Beck is just trying to change the frame of the argument, he's still attacking Democrats
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 12:12 AM
Jun 2014

even in this speech.

1. By misrepresenting the issue of WMDs, twice he says the unanimous belief, the unanimous belief even by Hillary Clinton and the left that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. He never mentions, the majority of the left or liberals that never believed it in the first place.

He singles out one politician that agreed with the Republicans regarding the issue of WMDs and then labels the entire left as believing it.

2. Liberals said there was no indication the people of Iraq wanted to be free, this is also a lie and to his audience pits "liberals against freedom," now Beck is pretending to be contrite agreeing with a complete misconception as to what liberals believe. We didn't believe in going to war with Iraq because we knew it was based on lies and Iraq posed no threat to us, certainly no more than North Korea or Saudi Arabia.

Beck is just pretending to be contrite while at the same time subtly attacking Democrats by creating false perceptions of what liberals believe and then agreeing with it.

Thanks for the thread, Adenoid_Hynkel.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
6. Too late, and a trillion short....
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 12:13 AM
Jun 2014

Blood on his hands, he has, and no admission of guilt will ever wash it off his, no matter what.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
11. The only thing that the CONservative movement needs
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 01:05 AM
Jun 2014

is a bowel movement.
They are so full of feces, it's not funny.
Now they want to apologize.
Here's how they can apologize, they can bring us the heads of each and every member of the Bush Crime Syndicate on a platter, and display them on a grand tour. They should charge admission to view the heads, and the proceeds should go to wounded veterans.

(semi-sarcastic)

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
13. Still clinging to that "mistake" idea
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 01:09 AM
Jun 2014

It wasn't a "mistake." The invasion of Iraq was a coolly calculated, cynical scheme from start to whenever it petered out for the Republican war-mongers. The wealthy enjoyed a great break on their taxes, a lot of poor people went over to Iraq to kill people, be killed themselves, and those that survived returned with a graveyard full of nightmarish memories to last them the rest of their lives. Additionally, Halliburton came back from the brink of bankruptcy and guaranteed Dick Cheney's pension for the remainder of his unnatural life, and Blackwater got to train a whole bunch of mercenaries to deploy across the globe at our expense.

Mistake? Bullshit. This was a cash grab on the corpses of Americans and Iraqis.

 

The Traveler

(5,632 posts)
21. I agree with you
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 02:29 AM
Jun 2014

I think it was a strategic move ... and rather successful. I think the strategic goal was to involve America in a perpetual state of war, thereby insuring continued and accelerating growth in defense budgets, the subsequent transfer of middle and lower class dollars to weapons makers and their stock holders, the ability to deploy military power to serve certain interests, etc.

It didn't work perfectly but it did work pretty well and we have a mighty mess to clean up now. And, of course, much money has changed hands (and will continue to do so). Our cleanup chore would, in my view, would be made easier by trying the perpetrators for war crimes. At the time, I could accept Obama's decision not to go that way ... but in retrospect I think it was a grievous error.

Trav

 

johnlucas

(1,250 posts)
14. You're supposed to get things right in FOREsight not HINDsight
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 01:32 AM
Jun 2014

Any idiot can see the right answer after the fact.
Wisdom comes from seeing the right answer before the event.

On top of all this he comes out with this drool 11-12 years after the fact.
That means SUPER dumb.
He could have at LEAST figured it out in the decade of the 2000s.

John Lucas

bearssoapbox

(1,408 posts)
18. Beck is what happens when you chase anti-psychotic drugs with Vicks
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 02:06 AM
Jun 2014

and a gallon of 'shine cut with antifreeze and wood alcohol a few times a week.



 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
19. "..there was no indication the people of Iraq had the will to be free."
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 02:22 AM
Jun 2014

Dumb sumbitch STILL doesn't get it.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
22. No, he sounds just like a southern a-hole during reconstruction
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 02:37 AM
Jun 2014

who said the slaves weren't ready to be free, so that's why we needed the klan.

No liberal was blaming the iraqis

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
24. It just keeps coming back to ther absolute certainty of their own superiority....
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 03:00 AM
Jun 2014

Never mind the FACT that they are inferior in every way that matters.

QuestForSense

(653 posts)
20. He is a psychopath. Take every word that comes out of his mouth with a grain of salt.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 02:26 AM
Jun 2014

The contrition is completely missing from sentences 5 thru 12 of his "admission." The rest is just a hook to gain your sympathies.

Odd that Pat Robertson would also startle with similar statements earlier today.


polynomial

(750 posts)
25. Glen Beck the mystery man
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 04:04 AM
Jun 2014

There was always something about Glen Beck that is filled with mystery. That said with the knowledge Mr. Beck spent years reporting and delivering hate messages over television and the radio.

Beck is gaming the system with obnoxious grandstanding similarly as Al Qaida ranting Allah Akbar “ God is Great”. Here is a man truly caught in raw sedition. Beck has committed the crime of sedition many times over encouraging American’s to kill.

Likely turning around with this video message that exposes a complete contradicting for all those times he interviewed Dick Cheney.

It’s likely the right wing nuts cut off Glen Becks income, it sounds like he got punked on his last pay check. Now sounding off to show America middle class and poor the understanding in misery the GOP crime syndicate profiteered and swindled from the tax payer.

Glen Beck is not insane he is just pissed off giving the retribution and retaliation in anger back to Bush and Cheney. Beck had many interviews that where so sweet and lovey with Cheney. Now calling Cheney the dark evil of the universe is really something.

What would be ideal for criminals like Beck is have his wealth confiscated then force Mr. Beck to live out the rest of his life on Social Security and Medicare and the affordable care act.

Especially make Mr. beck stand in line at the grocery store with all the coupons he can find to make it through the week.

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