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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGlenn Beck: ‘Liberals, You Were Right,’ We Should Never Have Gone into Iraq
Glenn Beck led off his radio show on Tuesday morning with a stirring monologue about all the ways he believes the left and right can come together to heal America. As part of that, Beck suggested that perhaps all Americans can come together to recognize the blunder that was invading and occupying Iraq in 2003 an act that he now regrets having supported.
After listing the Veterans Affairs Department scandal and the fight against Common Core standards as two ways in which the left and right can unite, Beck asserted that maybe we could come together now on this nightmare in Iraq.
He then took a contrite tone and admitted [emphasis ours]:From the beginning, most people on the left were against going into Iraq. I wasnt. At the time I believed that the United States was under threat from Saddam Hussein. I really truly believed that Saddam Hussein was funding terrorists. We knew that. He was funding the terrorists in Hamas. We knew that he was giving money. We could track that. We knew he hated us. We knew that without a shadow of a doubt. It wasnt much or a stretch to believe that he would fund a terror strike against us, especially since he would say that. So I took him at his word.
[...] Now, in spite of the things I felt at the time when we went into war, liberals said: We shouldnt get involved. We shouldnt nation-build. And there was no indication the people of Iraq had the will to be free. I thought that was insulting at the time. Everybody wants to be free. They said we couldnt force freedom on people. Let me lead with my mistakes. You are right. Liberals, you were right. We shouldnt have.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/glenn-beck-liberals-you-were-right-we-should-never-have-gone-into-iraq/
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Fuck you, Glenn.
This guy built his career on the blood of our troops. In 2003, he staged a series of pro-war "Rally for America" events, where he went from city to city for Clear Channel, cheering the war and mocking the antiwar movement.
Here's the douchenozzle at one of the events:
more here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alexander-zaitchik/past-is-prologue-glenn-be_b_634826.html
He held his grand finale in my hometown of Huntington, WV, and got the cops, the city, the local university, the local media and others to back him, as well as put up every obstacle imaginable to protest his event.
Glenn used the media attention to break from the pack of AM Limbaugh wannabes, raise his profile and land his first TV gig on CNN.
Yet, now, when it's politically convenient for him, he admits he was wrong. If the war were still popular, he'd still be all for it. And, being a Republican hack, there's no doubt the next time a GOP president wants war, Glenn will try to squeeze back into his cheerleader skirt.
Again, fuck you, Glenn. Unless you plan on giving the millions you made to a charity for Iraqi civilians or wounded troops, you're still just as guilty and have blood on your hands. And, even then, it wouldn't be enough.
Fuck you, Glenn, and fuck the Dixie Chicks-boycotting, Freedumb Fries eating morons you call the conservative movement.
JI7
(89,247 posts)calimary
(81,220 posts)I hate even using that word - "right." It's been hijacked, poisoned, smeared with shit, and utterly perverted. The way the so-called "right" uses it - it's come to define ANYTHING BUT right (as in right versus wrong). But maybe the time has come to take that word back.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)What we SAID was, "There was no indication the country had WMD's or were involved in 9/11/01."
arcane1
(38,613 posts)This isn't some "clock is twice right" bullshit.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)Iraq is an artificial construct created by the British at the end of WWI.
The British had overrun the Ottoman Empire during the war, and divided up the former-Ottoman territory. Unfortunately, the dumbasses drew the lines where they felt like drawing them, instead of drawing them based on any sort of religious, ethnic or political lines.
The result is a massively unstable state. The different groups do not want to be under the rule of the other groups. They want their own countries. So the only thing that can hold Iraq together is dictatorship or something closely resembling it.
That doesn't mean "Iraqis need a dictator". That means Iraqis need to no longer be Iraqis. They need their own countries, just like the Yugoslavians needed their own countries.
Btw, this will cause instability in Turkey, Syria, Lebanon and Jordan as the same ethic groups seek to join with their post-Iraq counterparts. But the original British mistake will be corrected. Waiting just makes the correction more painful.
Rex
(65,616 posts)1. Im thinking about killing Michael Moore, and Im wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out. Is this wrong? I stopped wearing my What Would Jesus band Do, and Ive lost all sense of right and wrong now. I used to be able to say, Yeah, Id kill Michael Moore, and then Id see the little band: What Would Jesus Do? And then Id realize, Oh, you wouldnt kill Michael Moore. Or at least you wouldnt choke him to death. And you know, well, Im not sure. responding to the question What would people do for $50 million?, The Glenn Beck Program, May 17, 2005
2. Al Gores not going to be rounding up Jews and exterminating them. It is the same tactic, however. The goal is different. The goal is globalization And you must silence all dissenting voices. Thats what Hitler did. Thats what Al Gore, the U.N., and everybody on the global warming bandwagon [are doing]. The Glenn Beck Program, May 1, 2007
3. You know, we all have our inner demons. I, for one I cant speak for you, but Im on the verge of moral collapse at any time. It can happen by the end of the show. The Glenn Beck Program, Nov. 6, 2006
4. The violent left is coming to our streets, all of our streets, to smash, to tear down, to kill, to bankrupt, to destroy. It is will be global in its nature and global in its scope - Values Voter Summit, Novemer 10 2008
5. When you watch Barack Obama, you can just see he is angry .No matter how much power he has amassed, no matter how many friends in the media he has, Americans know. And if they reject it this time, if theyre so dead inside thats a possibility if theyre so dead inside that they can no longer see the difference between good and evil, we have to be destroyed because we will be a remarkable evil on this planet. - The Glenn Beck Program, 5 November 2012
alittlelark
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Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,355 posts)even in this speech.
1. By misrepresenting the issue of WMDs, twice he says the unanimous belief, the unanimous belief even by Hillary Clinton and the left that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. He never mentions, the majority of the left or liberals that never believed it in the first place.
He singles out one politician that agreed with the Republicans regarding the issue of WMDs and then labels the entire left as believing it.
2. Liberals said there was no indication the people of Iraq wanted to be free, this is also a lie and to his audience pits "liberals against freedom," now Beck is pretending to be contrite agreeing with a complete misconception as to what liberals believe. We didn't believe in going to war with Iraq because we knew it was based on lies and Iraq posed no threat to us, certainly no more than North Korea or Saudi Arabia.
Beck is just pretending to be contrite while at the same time subtly attacking Democrats by creating false perceptions of what liberals believe and then agreeing with it.
Thanks for the thread, Adenoid_Hynkel.
Amonester
(11,541 posts)Blood on his hands, he has, and no admission of guilt will ever wash it off his, no matter what.
d_b
(7,463 posts)Gman
(24,780 posts)Now he can go back to drinking.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,282 posts)Of George W Bush.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)is a bowel movement.
They are so full of feces, it's not funny.
Now they want to apologize.
Here's how they can apologize, they can bring us the heads of each and every member of the Bush Crime Syndicate on a platter, and display them on a grand tour. They should charge admission to view the heads, and the proceeds should go to wounded veterans.
(semi-sarcastic)
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)It wasn't a "mistake." The invasion of Iraq was a coolly calculated, cynical scheme from start to whenever it petered out for the Republican war-mongers. The wealthy enjoyed a great break on their taxes, a lot of poor people went over to Iraq to kill people, be killed themselves, and those that survived returned with a graveyard full of nightmarish memories to last them the rest of their lives. Additionally, Halliburton came back from the brink of bankruptcy and guaranteed Dick Cheney's pension for the remainder of his unnatural life, and Blackwater got to train a whole bunch of mercenaries to deploy across the globe at our expense.
Mistake? Bullshit. This was a cash grab on the corpses of Americans and Iraqis.
The Traveler
(5,632 posts)I think it was a strategic move ... and rather successful. I think the strategic goal was to involve America in a perpetual state of war, thereby insuring continued and accelerating growth in defense budgets, the subsequent transfer of middle and lower class dollars to weapons makers and their stock holders, the ability to deploy military power to serve certain interests, etc.
It didn't work perfectly but it did work pretty well and we have a mighty mess to clean up now. And, of course, much money has changed hands (and will continue to do so). Our cleanup chore would, in my view, would be made easier by trying the perpetrators for war crimes. At the time, I could accept Obama's decision not to go that way ... but in retrospect I think it was a grievous error.
Trav
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)johnlucas
(1,250 posts)Any idiot can see the right answer after the fact.
Wisdom comes from seeing the right answer before the event.
On top of all this he comes out with this drool 11-12 years after the fact.
That means SUPER dumb.
He could have at LEAST figured it out in the decade of the 2000s.
John Lucas
bearssoapbox
(1,408 posts)and a gallon of 'shine cut with antifreeze and wood alcohol a few times a week.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Dumb sumbitch STILL doesn't get it.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)who said the slaves weren't ready to be free, so that's why we needed the klan.
No liberal was blaming the iraqis
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Never mind the FACT that they are inferior in every way that matters.
QuestForSense
(653 posts)The contrition is completely missing from sentences 5 thru 12 of his "admission." The rest is just a hook to gain your sympathies.
Odd that Pat Robertson would also startle with similar statements earlier today.
polynomial
(750 posts)There was always something about Glen Beck that is filled with mystery. That said with the knowledge Mr. Beck spent years reporting and delivering hate messages over television and the radio.
Beck is gaming the system with obnoxious grandstanding similarly as Al Qaida ranting Allah Akbar God is Great. Here is a man truly caught in raw sedition. Beck has committed the crime of sedition many times over encouraging Americans to kill.
Likely turning around with this video message that exposes a complete contradicting for all those times he interviewed Dick Cheney.
Its likely the right wing nuts cut off Glen Becks income, it sounds like he got punked on his last pay check. Now sounding off to show America middle class and poor the understanding in misery the GOP crime syndicate profiteered and swindled from the tax payer.
Glen Beck is not insane he is just pissed off giving the retribution and retaliation in anger back to Bush and Cheney. Beck had many interviews that where so sweet and lovey with Cheney. Now calling Cheney the dark evil of the universe is really something.
What would be ideal for criminals like Beck is have his wealth confiscated then force Mr. Beck to live out the rest of his life on Social Security and Medicare and the affordable care act.
Especially make Mr. beck stand in line at the grocery store with all the coupons he can find to make it through the week.
malaise
(268,952 posts)It was a crime
Blue Owl
(50,355 posts)n/t