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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRepublican Lou Barletta: House has enough votes to impeach Obama
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2014/06/barletta_impeach_obama.htmlThe Hazleton Republican, who represents the 11th congressional district, which includes parts of Cumberland, Dauphin and Perry counties, first articulated his thoughts on the Gary Sutton radio show on Monday.
On Tuesday morning, Politico.com reports that on the radio show Barletta said of the president: "He's just absolutely ignoring the Constitution, and ignoring the laws and ignoring the checks and balances. The problem is, what do you do? For those that say impeach him for breaking the laws of bypassing the laws could that pass in the House? It probably could. Is the majority of the American people in favor of impeaching the president? I'm not sure."
Barletta spokesman weighed in on the discussion. Tim Murtaugh told the Wilkes Barre Times-Leader that while Barletta believed the House had the votes to impeach the president, the Senate would probably not approve.
Every day one of these assholes chirps about impeaching Obama, and every day passes without any action. Spineless cowards. I wish they would. The whirlwind they would reap would cost them the House and any chance of the Senate. They would be known as the party that used impeachment twice in the last generation to try to accomplish what they couldn't at the ballot box.
We need a middle finger emoticon. I'd put a whole line of them here.
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)convict, but it will be the end of the republican party
They won't do it though. It is just like Rachael pointed out, they were screaming at Obama to invade Syria, and when Obama said that if Congress believes that then let them do it, they have the Constitutional ability to do so. Guess what, Congress wouldn't even bring it up for a vote. They are chicken hawks, and chicken shits, and they have fooled a lot of idiots in this country
BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)This could seal the deal.
on point
(2,506 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)on point
(2,506 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)Which would have made it a useless presidency. For that obvious and correct calculation, you want to impeach. Nothing else will do.
Here you are:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/this-good-friday-let-us-n_b_92645.html
on point
(2,506 posts)If he had prosecuted the criminals, the already on their heels republicans would have been even further set back and undercut in their ability to block and criticize Obama. That is the politics
Now for the law. Failure to prosecute this Bush cabal not only makes it possible for these kind of crimes to be committed again in our country, but undercuts the law world wide. It also makes it possible for these war criminals to go tv, proclaim their crimes as right, but also that we engage in more of them. The powerful must not be allowed to evade justice for the harm it causes the country now and in the future is massively destructive. This is not a minor failure of Obama, but a serious major one
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)For the rule of law to be more than a lawless tool used to imprison the impoverished, for the rule of law to actually exist, we can not have the wealthy and politicians as a class above the law. Proclaiming that criminals will not be investigated and convicted if proven guilty is obstruction and the act of an accomplice, making the one shielding the criminals a criminal as well. We may not like these facts, but they are facts.
It has nothing to do with "settling scores" anymore than prosecuting a bank robbery is, it is called justice and the rule of law. Banana republics don't understand justice, nor do those that cheer on the lack of it, if Obama wanted to forgive war crimes or trillion dollar thieves in the banking industry the legal way to do so is with pardons, "looking forward" beyond crimes and refusing to investigate well heeled criminals is not an actual legal defense. Some appear to think only some people are bound by our laws, pathetic.
BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)then, for failing to uphold the law. Correct?
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)You can't have it both ways, either we are all bound by the law, or none of us should be, unless one believes a banana republic is what our country should be. Who do you think (if any) should not be bound by the laws of the land? Obama can still direct his justice department to investigate war crimes and if he still believes those crimes are OK when done by those in high political office he has a legal power we do not have and that is to pardon them, he can therefore "look forward" beyond crimes without committing any himself if he so chooses.
I think we should all be held accountable under the laws of this country. What is your view? if you can't answer this question there is nothing for us to discuss because that is what I am discussing and I will not go off into the weeds with you on some distraction.
BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)so, you're right, we have nothing to discuss.
corkhead
(6,119 posts)dumbfucks
It worked out so well for you last time.
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/mid-term_elections.php
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)Confederate County, Kkklansman County, and Cracker County?
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)tavernier
(12,376 posts)simply on the grounds of raging jealousy and racism.
Nice try, though.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)to recruit Obama haters to their side by repeating and repeating that they want to impeach Obama. Give us specifics. I'll bet you can't come up with any.
Obama is smarter than the entire lot of you turds. (My apology to real turds.)
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)I image "getting elected while being a Democrat" or "Being elected while black" are not illegal so the only actual charges they could bring would have to do with obstructing justice or being an accessory after the fact in war crimes, but they would have to charge their own as well to pursue those charges so it will never happen.
Without charges regarding specific law breaking they have nothing to impeach him over and are simply full of shit.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)They have since 2010. Since the repubs vote lockstep on anything that could harm Obama, I don't see how anything is different now.
progressoid
(49,976 posts)He'll only get more popular and we'll win bigger in November.
RussBLib
(9,006 posts)Pull that trigger.
FSogol
(45,473 posts)MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)Ultimately this sort of thing is what's going to destroy American democracy; these ongoing battles of democratic legitimacy between the executive and legislative, where a party with a legislative majority wields impeachment as a blunt instrument to remove a president of the other party. This is essentially what happened when Clinton was in office (Lewinsky was a convenient pretext).
spanone
(135,816 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)LynneSin
(95,337 posts)I grew up in rural Pennsylvania in Perry County. That place was loaded with racist redneck assholes.
Iggo
(47,548 posts)Liar.
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)please hurry. we need this before the midterms....
The Senate will acquit and the electorate will avenge the GOP for this.
Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)and bash him relentlessly.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,232 posts)they take back control of the Senate. The problem for them is that they have to go BIGGER & crazier to keep their nutjobs from turning on them, just ask Eric Cantor.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Because we all know how 'successful' it was back during the Clinton years