Not your fault, Doxy. Here's a non-inflammatory link: http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelzarrell/the-dmv-refused-to-a-give-16-year-old-boy-his-license-until

In DE, the thing is we're not allowed glasses on or put a smile on our face.

What's a man supposed to look like, anyway? Some bozo from Duck Dynasty?

then they should leave him alone, because it's not like he's trying to put something over on people (I honestly thought the photo was going to show a kid wearing bizarre Goth type makeup or something).

It would be the same thing if women weren't allowed to cut their hair short or dye it different colors because they wouldn't look the same as their drivers license photos.

That's the only rule I'm sure of. Good for this kid for raising the issue and making it public.

if you are male or female. I'm a male with long hair, and have always been required to pull out my hair tie when having my DL photo taken...

And while I don't wear makeup, I've been in line behind any number of heavily made-up and carefully coiffed women who got their photos taken with no problem.

Plus I've even had mine taken like 3 or 4 times and allowed to choose which one I wanted on my license (by some of the more pleasant RMV workers).

I dunno... Each state's DMV has their own rules... I only speak from personal experience (ie, anecdotal, doesn't count for shit).

I would bet dollars to doughnuts they did this to him because he's male and 'makeup is for females'. Which is stupid.

You would be correct...

And it is stupid.

I'll have to ask my mom or younger sister. They both live in Fl

I was stating my particular experiences and the assumptions I had on the DL rules, and that's where this subthread came from.

As for if women are required to remove makeup for their FL DL pictures, I don't know from personal experience since I don't wear makeup. But I've never seen any woman asked to remove her makeup before getting her picture taken when I was in line for my DL.

I do love that ad for the Santa Rosa DL office.

I suppose I was under the wrong impression. But I seem to remember my mother telling me that when I was younger and she was renewing her license. And of course, I've always been made to remove my hair tie. This happened once when I was 17 for my first license pic, and again at 33 when I renewed my license and they wanted a new photo (because at 33, I no longer looked like I was 17). Again, this is nothing more than anecdotal evidence of my personal experiences and apparently is not the norm.

I have never known a woman to be asked that, and when I've spent ages at the Secretary of State in MI, I've never seen a woman asked to remove makeup. Not once.

I don't even see how it would be practical to have a good portion of half the people wash their faces before a photo.

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IOW, someone showing up in Juggalo makeup or Blackface would be turned away. I believe it read something to the effect of "altering appearance so as to be unidentifiable"

Minor makeup for cosmetic purposes was allowed.

Of course the discretion is where things get murky.

Thisis straight up bullshit.

It wouldn't make sense since most people who wear makeup tend to wear it all or most of the time. It would be like telling people they have to remove their glasses because it obscures their face.

have strict rules - he would not be allowed to wear makeup for a PP

Not outraged with our government over this.

and makeup isn't listed in the FAQs either.
http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/passports/photos/photos.html

is in town, I'll throw some makeup on him and take him to the post office passport office and see what they say OKAY?

Nothing at the link even suggests that what passes for a normal amount of makeup needs to be scrubbed off for the passport photo. Tell you what, do bring your son in wearing his normal makeup and see what happens.

That means make up if you wear it, none if you don't, hair like you usually wear it etc. That's what the passport office wants, a photo of you that looks like you look.

wore mascara and lip color in my photo. I had no problems with the State Dept.

Is it only men who can't wear makeup for passport photos?

from our friends over at Kodak

http://www.kodakexpresscamden.com/Passport-Unacceptable.html

Eyeliner, mascara and lipstick seems minimal

Your Passport photo is supposed to reflect your current, regular appearance. That's the actual rule.

I dunno why more dudes don't wear it.

men have the same right.

all so damn lame, as usual ... he will never look like the photo ID in real life, so if it's for identity purposes it's no good and a bunch of BS. Probably some asshole taking the picture was giving them a hard time. Maybe it offended their religion as to what a man should look like. I get so tired of this gender crap as to how one is supposed to look and act.

hairstyles favored around here by people of all sexual orientations and gender identifications. Chase's makeup is downright subtle by 21st Century standards.