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catnhatnh

(8,976 posts) Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:27 PM Jun 2014

Countries operating F-16 Aircraft

2.1 Belgium
2.2 Denmark
2.3 Netherlands
2.4 Norway
3.1 Greece
3.2 Italy
3.3 Poland
3.4 Portugal
4.1 Bahrain
4.2 Egypt
4.3 Israel
4.4 Iraq
4.5 Jordan
4.6 Oman
4.7 Turkey
4.8 United Arab Emirates

And the US "must" provide air support to Iraq because "we" broke it? As the Bushies would say-"Don't forget Poland.".

ISIS has no aircraft and limited aircraft defense. A squadron of WW2 fighters could put a bad loss on their ground troops. I see plenty of supposed allies on this list and almost any air force in the world could handle this with existing inventories. We took our losses already-let us stay home!

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Countries operating F-16 Aircraft (Original Post) catnhatnh Jun 2014 OP

Air support is pretty much worthless without intel and boots on the ground to tell who to bomb neverforget Jun 2014 #1

So we give them the intell, which is what is happening. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #4

Let Iran and Syria be deputized as World Police force for this, someone else for once. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #2

Iran and Syria? Calista241 Jun 2014 #13

America air strikes will put America in control of Iraq just as Syrian and Iranian air strikes - not Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #14

The only reason we are providing anything is because Obama has made the call. morningfog Jun 2014 #3

Nothing has happened yet, trust Obama or do not, no half way. Remember Syria and Libya. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #5

I remember, I don't trust Obama. Why would I, he is the President. morningfog Jun 2014 #6

Libya was a necessity, Syria was a decision, and when did the will of the people stop any war? Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #11

Libya was not a necessity. The people's will stopped morningfog Jun 2014 #12

Link to your odd numbering scheme: ManiacJoe Jun 2014 #7

Sorry-I should have added that link... catnhatnh Jun 2014 #8

I suggest a revolutionary foreign policy... Bigmack Jun 2014 #9

And your reply deserves a K&R..... N/T catnhatnh Jun 2014 #10

neverforget

(9,436 posts)

1. Air support is pretty much worthless without intel and boots on the ground to tell who to bomb

Reply to catnhatnh (Original post)

Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:30 PM

Jun 2014

especially a small group like ISIS. Bombing countries is a different matter though....

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)

4. So we give them the intell, which is what is happening.

Reply to neverforget (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:31 PM

Jun 2014

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)

2. Let Iran and Syria be deputized as World Police force for this, someone else for once.

Reply to catnhatnh (Original post)

Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:30 PM

Jun 2014

Calista241

(5,586 posts)

13. Iran and Syria?

Reply to Fred Sanders (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 18, 2014, 11:43 PM

Jun 2014

Syria is in the process of exterminating 1/2 it's country, and Iran is brutally suppressing any opposition in their own country.

I agree that we're not the best actor to insert ourselves here, but Iran and Syria are the last people we want in control of Iraq.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)

14. America air strikes will put America in control of Iraq just as Syrian and Iranian air strikes - not

Reply to Calista241 (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:38 AM

Jun 2014

morningfog

(18,115 posts)

3. The only reason we are providing anything is because Obama has made the call.

Reply to catnhatnh (Original post)

Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:30 PM

Jun 2014

We have no business being there now. We have no more business now than we did in 2003. When the the last US soldier left, our role reset. It is a new slate and Obama is leading us in for the same bullshit reasons bush used.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)

5. Nothing has happened yet, trust Obama or do not, no half way. Remember Syria and Libya.

Reply to morningfog (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:31 PM

Jun 2014

morningfog

(18,115 posts)

6. I remember, I don't trust Obama. Why would I, he is the President.

Reply to Fred Sanders (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:34 PM

Jun 2014

It would be foolish to ever trust a President.

Libya was a mistake and the opposition of the people blocked his effort in Syria. He is now claiming he doesn't need Congress to carry out acts of war in Iraq.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)

11. Libya was a necessity, Syria was a decision, and when did the will of the people stop any war?

Reply to morningfog (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 18, 2014, 10:13 PM

Jun 2014

morningfog

(18,115 posts)

12. Libya was not a necessity. The people's will stopped

Reply to Fred Sanders (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 18, 2014, 11:08 PM

Jun 2014

the UK and then the US from marching to war. You don't remember?

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)

7. Link to your odd numbering scheme:

Reply to catnhatnh (Original post)

Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:40 PM

Jun 2014

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-16_Fighting_Falcon_operators

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)

8. Sorry-I should have added that link...

Reply to ManiacJoe (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:45 PM

Jun 2014

I was just looking for a list of countries with anything close to a current generation fighter. There are of course dozens of other aircraft produced elsewhere that would also be perfectly adequate...

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)

9. I suggest a revolutionary foreign policy...

Reply to catnhatnh (Original post)

Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:45 PM

Jun 2014

Be honest.

"Look... we blundered into the war in Iraq and it destabilized the whole region. Nobody should doubt that we have the strongest military in the world, but it is not suited for nation building or resolution of civil wars.

We broke it.... but we're the absolutely LAST country with the ability to fix it. Our reputation in the Middle East.. the sectarian nature of the whole conflict.. our lack of even language skills... precludes our ability to help resolve this thing.

We are going to - diplomatic term here - butt the fuck out of Iraq."