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(2,392 posts)
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 02:39 AM Jun 2014

Hillary Clinton's views on post 9/11

sound pretty much like all the right wing apologist nonsense. Is this ok simply because she is a Democratic politician?

“We are finally taking stock of the laws that we passed after 9/11,” she told Fox News interviewer Greta Van Susteren. “We did all of this in an a hurry because we were worried and scared and now we need to take a step back and figure out how we make sure that the balance between liberty and security is right.”

Laws passed after 9/11 gave the executive branch too much authority


The Bush administration covered up Saudi links to al Qaeda. They didn't want a 9/11 Commission. How on earth does that suggest a good faith overreaction when they didn't want an investigation? FBI interrogation methods were working but for ulterior reasons they were ordered to make way for an absurd experimental ad hoc torture program. FBI agent Ali Soufan is on the record stating that the USS Cole investigation was obstructed. It should be noted that information about known al Qaeda operatives Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar was withheld in January 2000 when Bill Clinton was still in office. The withholding took place around the Millennium time frame when there was a lot of al Qaeda attack chatter. Former counterterrorist czar Richard Clarke is on the record stating that the CIA deliberately withheld the information about al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar. Former NSA Sandy Berger kept removing classified documents related to the Millennium threat period from the National Archives.

Should we dismiss all these questions and root for team Hillary? Are we out of line for coming to the conclusion that neither the Democrats or Republicans have been honest about 9/11?

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Kick grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #1
Who is this "we" exactly? Fearless Jun 2014 #2
Humankind leadership PATRICK Jun 2014 #3

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
2. Who is this "we" exactly?
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 03:48 AM
Jun 2014

I certainly didn't. I rallied against them. Screamed about, shouted at, and cursed the groupthink.

PATRICK

(12,228 posts)
3. Humankind leadership
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 07:04 AM
Jun 2014

Maybe, just maybe we can find some with steadier knees who don't quake with fear so that that send the common people into war, death, tyranny, poverty every other kind of disaster to allay those fears?

An overall perspective to me seems to be that human leadership is the exception and the term a whopping oxymoron for much of human history and that the people pay the price for absolutely everything whether they are heroic, "fearful", supportive or not. The only absolute for the leadership is power and the corruption that goes with it.

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