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doxydad

(1,363 posts)
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 06:37 AM Jun 2014

Bob Jones University told rape victims to repent and look for ‘root sin’ that caused their attack

According to an investigative report from Al Jazeera America, rape victims searching for help at Bob Jones University in Greenville, S.C., were told to repent and seek out their own “root sin” that caused them to be raped.

Within the past year BJU has opened its own investigation into sexual abuse and rape, and now former students who were victimized are coming forward to tell their stories about life on a campus where they were shamed and told to keep their stories to themselves.

Coming from a conservative Mennonite family, Katie Landry, who at age 19 had never even held hands with a boy, was raped multiple times by her supervisor at her summer job. Two years later, haunted by the attacks, and attending Bob Jones University, she sought help from then dean of students, Jim Berg.

According to Landry, Berg asked whether she’d been drinking or smoking pot and if she had been “impure.” He then brought up her “root sin.”

“He goes, ‘Well, there’s always a sin under other sin. There’s a root sin,’” Landry explained. “And he said, ‘We have to find the sin in your life that caused your rape.’ And I just ran.”

“He just confirmed my worst nightmare,” she added. “It was something I had done. It was something about me. It was my fault.”

Dean of Students, Jim Berg: This is what a hypocritical 'CHRISTIAN' ass hat looks like.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/18/bob-jones-university-told-rpe-victims-to-repent-and-look-for-root-sin-that-caused-their-rpe/

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Bob Jones University told rape victims to repent and look for ‘root sin’ that caused their attack (Original Post) doxydad Jun 2014 OP
How evil shenmue Jun 2014 #1
Ugh.... Dorian Gray Jun 2014 #2
Simple. Her root sin was being female. (nt) enough Jun 2014 #3
Bingo! theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #4
And attending Bob Jones University Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2014 #8
Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #35
They're all sick in the head. Fucking hiding behind "Christianity". Evil MOnsters. Cha Jun 2014 #5
Whrere have I heard this kind of talk before... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #6
BJU is a horrid institution Lee-Lee Jun 2014 #7
"BJ" U? KamaAina Jun 2014 #18
Damn You beat me to it. rickyhall Jun 2014 #19
Yeah, that's actually what they call it Lee-Lee Jun 2014 #25
I'll bet they call themselves teabaggers, too KamaAina Jun 2014 #28
standard patriarchal evangelical Christianity--I knew a preacher's daughter who was almost raped zazen Jun 2014 #9
Perv's do hide at church- KrazyinKS Jun 2014 #10
This guy needs outed big time, right off the goddamn campus. toby jo Jun 2014 #11
Over forty years ago. my then husband and I were vacationing at a shore maddiemom Jun 2014 #12
Or...maybe not and it was the school maddiemom Jun 2014 #13
The "root sin" perhaps? GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #37
Bob Jones University was founded by a spokesman for the Ku Klux Klan. n/t radicalliberal Jun 2014 #41
BJU had a policy against interracial dating until 2000. Black students were banned until the 70s. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #42
Despicable. And typical for fundies. riderinthestorm Jun 2014 #14
Patrick Henry College officials respond, refute ‘New Republic’ story mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2014 #15
Their insistence that they protect male and female students equally troubles me. tclambert Jun 2014 #16
They believe.. doxydad Jun 2014 #22
I quit going to a church for that very reason. Initech Jun 2014 #29
I think rapists should get life in prison. lululu Jun 2014 #33
Well, that's easy. malthaussen Jun 2014 #17
agreed. n/t doxydad Jun 2014 #23
So all a guy has to do is say 'God told me to rape you' Exposethefrauds Jun 2014 #20
I remember years ago, I posted how I was deserted by a parent when I was a child and.. Tikki Jun 2014 #21
People like that... doxydad Jun 2014 #24
Berg - fuck off and die you scumbag n/t RainDog Jun 2014 #26
Wonder what he told the boys? I refuse to call them men. jwirr Jun 2014 #27
The fruit of religion. nt valerief Jun 2014 #30
This is almost beyond belief, but considering the source, guess not. lark Jun 2014 #31
How is this statement in any way shape form ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #32
Well, if you think men violating women against their will is just the natural way of things... nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #36
Not just an asshat. Probably a rapist. On second thought, doesn't preclude the other. freshwest Jun 2014 #34
By that twisted logic Anarcho-Socialist Jun 2014 #38
I guess females have the same issues as being Stellar Jun 2014 #39
What a complete ass hat and disgusting sub-human. OverBurn Jun 2014 #40
Many of these "Christian" colleges refuse government funding ladym55 Jun 2014 #43

Dorian Gray

(13,479 posts)
2. Ugh....
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 07:08 AM
Jun 2014

While I'm not all that surprised, this sickens me.

ETA: The "Root Sin" was that the rapist was a rapey scumbag, asshole!

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
8. And attending Bob Jones University
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 08:02 AM
Jun 2014

Although, to be fair, a lot of universities that should know better aren't much different.

Response to enough (Reply #3)

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
6. Whrere have I heard this kind of talk before...
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 07:44 AM
Jun 2014

Oh yeah, in third world countries, where they then seal the deal by murdering the woman who was raped, since it was 'her fault'.

The root sin was sitting right in front of her. Patriarchical asses who convince men and women alike that being raped is the woman's fault, and thus grant free passes for male rapists who listen to the filth they peddle.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
7. BJU is a horrid institution
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 07:59 AM
Jun 2014

You can't go out in downtown Greenville on a BJU "student" screaming on the corner about how everyone walking by is going to hell.

One night in the 90's I was yelled at for my"promiscuous" dress and told if I "got pregnant with a mongrel chill from my fornication I better not murder it" or something close.

I made sure I sinned extra that night.

zazen

(2,978 posts)
9. standard patriarchal evangelical Christianity--I knew a preacher's daughter who was almost raped
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 09:14 AM
Jun 2014

and her Dad told her the same thing. Of course, the daughter quoted scripture against the guy and he ultimately stopped, which was then used by all as evidence that Jesus can stop all sin.

KrazyinKS

(291 posts)
10. Perv's do hide at church-
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 09:37 AM
Jun 2014

BTK aka Dennis Rader was a deacon at a local Lutheran church. He is the local serial killer, killed them then masturbated on their body. He even went as far as taking pictures of them on the church grounds at night. I started thinking about that a few days ago when I drove past the Lutheran church he went to. They were in total shock. I was at the local grocery store the next morning after they caught him, you could have heard a pin drop-they didn't see it coming. Yes perverts hide out at church, yes they do.

 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
11. This guy needs outed big time, right off the goddamn campus.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 09:40 AM
Jun 2014

These people need to be brought up to speed on morality or they'll just keep passing this crap off to the next
generation.

Hell, we got them to stop burning woman alive at the stake, so there's hope…

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
12. Over forty years ago. my then husband and I were vacationing at a shore
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 09:51 AM
Jun 2014

resort. At breakfast, we sat next to a table of very clean-cut kids. They told their server that they were from Bob Jones University, working there for the summer, and said a blessing when they were served. They then proceeded to make the most ignorant and racist remarks I'd ever heard about people passing on the boardwalk outside. We were so stunned that we were speechless. I've never forgotten that experience to this day, even knowing the fault was with the individuals, rather than the school.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
42. BJU had a policy against interracial dating until 2000. Black students were banned until the 70s.
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 01:27 AM
Jun 2014

It wasn't just the kids. "You have to be carefully taught" and all that. Or, to use the Fundamentalist version "Teach a child in the way that he should go and he will not depart from it."

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,284 posts)
15. Patrick Henry College officials respond, refute ‘New Republic’ story
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:21 AM
Jun 2014

Closely related

Patrick Henry College officials respond, refute ‘New Republic’ story

Patrick Henry College officials respond, refute ‘New Republic’ story

Thursday, Feb. 20, 2014 by Trevor Baratko

Officials at Patrick Henry College, the small, deeply-religious Christian school in Purcellville, responded to and repudiated Wednesday a longform report in the New Republic that accused the Patrick Henry administration of “victim-blaming” females in the cases of rape.

The New Republic story, entitled “Rape at God's Harvard” and published online Monday, highlights accounts from several female former students who reported assaults during their time at the school.

“ … other female students who say they reported sexual assault or harassment to the administration also left feeling that school officials blamed them instead of holding the accused male students accountable," the story, written by Kiera Feldman, notes. "The administration, they say, seemed much more concerned with protecting Patrick Henry’s pristine public image.”

In the school's response, sent to students, PHC officials stated: “Because you have invested your hearts, minds, and resources in this College, you should know that Patrick Henry College is absolutely committed to the protection and care of our students, male and female equally. When and if issues arise, we take each allegation seriously and try to conduct appropriate investigations with a spirit of emotional support while seeking truth. We may not perfectly achieve this objective every time, but this is our aim; this is our heart. The thesis of the article, that women are somehow treated less favorably than men, especially in difficult situations involving physical interactions between a male and female student, is categorically false.”


Click here to read the New Republic story

tclambert

(11,084 posts)
16. Their insistence that they protect male and female students equally troubles me.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 11:51 AM
Jun 2014

Are they saying they protect rapists and rape victims equally? Seems like you might want a little inequality when it comes to the assaulter and the assaulted.

Or are they saying male rape victims get equal treatment to female rape victims? That's really hard to believe.

doxydad

(1,363 posts)
22. They believe..
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 12:40 PM
Jun 2014

That a woman should cleave to a man, that women are underlings to males. That's why it is soooo damned wrong. Christians? MY ASS.

Initech

(100,030 posts)
29. I quit going to a church for that very reason.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 03:29 PM
Jun 2014

One time we went to a theme park and on the way back I was asking people why they had to have equal numbers of men and women in all cars. They said it was "for protection". And I'm like "protection from what?". To which they responded "you know what.". Seriously it was an hour and a half car ride. If you can't control your impulses for that long seek professional help.

 

lululu

(301 posts)
33. I think rapists should get life in prison.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:56 PM
Jun 2014

But not everyone accused is guilty. That's why we have trials.

(I'd say they deserve execution, but too many innocent people have been convicted of various crimes.)

Tikki

(14,549 posts)
21. I remember years ago, I posted how I was deserted by a parent when I was a child and..
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 12:22 PM
Jun 2014

someone posted back that I needed to pray to ask to be forgiven...not forgiving.

I read it a couple times to make sure I got the word meanings correct.

Just WOW what goes through these people's heads.


Tikki

doxydad

(1,363 posts)
24. People like that...
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 12:42 PM
Jun 2014

...allow man -made religions to interfere with God's plan for yourself. I just shrug 'em off. there's no talking to a rabid religious nutcase.

lark

(23,059 posts)
31. This is almost beyond belief, but considering the source, guess not.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:39 PM
Jun 2014

My fundamentalist parents tried to force me to go there and refused to pay for any college but this one. I left home and moved to CA which had a great educational system pre-Raygun and went to school for very little money there. There's no way on earth I'd ever darken their doorsteps or let my folks pay them one penny in my name - hell NO!

Evil, evil place, doing the devil's, not God's work.

ismnotwasm

(41,960 posts)
32. How is this statement in any way shape form
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:45 PM
Jun 2014

Stretch of the imagination--add any idioms I can't think of right now even begin to make sense?

Education Walter Fremont and his wife, counselors are instructed to emphasize that the blame lies with the abuser. However, the authors also state that being sexually assaulted is not an excuse for “sinful feelings” of discontentment, hate, fear, and especially, bitterness; calling unresolved anger “rebellion and bitterness against God.”

Anarcho-Socialist

(9,601 posts)
38. By that twisted logic
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 04:23 AM
Jun 2014

Rapists are "doing god's work" by punishing sin.

They're giving a green light to any sexual predator.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
39. I guess females have the same issues as being
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 05:38 AM
Jun 2014

black. You should never walk down the street while being black or female, because then, you're just asking for what ever is bad to happen to you.

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
43. Many of these "Christian" colleges refuse government funding
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 05:41 PM
Jun 2014

Therefore, they don't have government oversight (like Title IX). Ring of Fire also had an article on the shameful treatment of women who had experienced sexual assault at these campuses.

http://ringoffireradio.com/2014/06/why-are-christian-fundamentalist-universities-crucifying-rape-victims/

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