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Man's Pistol goes off in checkout line at Indiana Walmart (Original Post) yellowcanine Jun 2014 OP
The dumb just keep getting dumber. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2014 #1
Yet those of us who do not worship the gun are supposed to be "comfortable" Horse with no Name Jun 2014 #2
Just another "good guy with a gun" don'tcha know? yellowcanine Jun 2014 #4
Front shirt pocket? packman Jun 2014 #14
Gunner hero alcibiades_mystery Jun 2014 #3
Likely Gungeon spin: Carrier prevented crime in checkout line. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2014 #5
An armed thug was just getting ready to announce a robbery..... yellowcanine Jun 2014 #6
Exactly. Just another unsung hero protecting America's shoppers. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2014 #9
As the robber falls down laughing... atreides1 Jun 2014 #15
We need to ban all guns and charge gun owners for the seizure expenses Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #7
Dont need to repeal it, if we read it correctly access to guns would be randys1 Jun 2014 #11
You'll never repeal the 2A Horse with no Name Jun 2014 #12
A lot of states allow crossbows for hunting already, even for non disabled persons. yellowcanine Jun 2014 #19
Don't forget to repeal or at least change sarisataka Jun 2014 #25
Oh right, that'll go over REAL well... Archae Jun 2014 #31
Just another responsible gun owner. eom MohRokTah Jun 2014 #8
We need to be putting people like this in jail ... surrealAmerican Jun 2014 #10
See this I can agree with. Xyzse Jun 2014 #22
It's too bad he didn't at least shoot himself in the foot davidpdx Jun 2014 #13
Agree except I would add testicles. yellowcanine Jun 2014 #17
I was thinking that davidpdx Jun 2014 #21
Like my daughter said, take himself out of the gene pool. n/t woodsprite Jun 2014 #28
Give it up, gun nuts. Carrying guns will never be 'normal.' nt onehandle Jun 2014 #16
Pretty soon going out in public in America will be like going out in public in Iraq. nt valerief Jun 2014 #18
Sadly this is true/ n/t Horse with no Name Jun 2014 #24
"Man's Pistol goes off" -- they should make a gun that only "goes off" when "Man" pulls the trigger KurtNYC Jun 2014 #20
No kidding. historylovr Jun 2014 #23
Glicks instead of Glocks. Iggo Jun 2014 #30
Actually he may have pulled the trigger..... yellowcanine Jun 2014 #32
Was he in the self take-out lane? Blue Owl Jun 2014 #26
Another jackass with a POS holster. Historic NY Jun 2014 #27
What are they doing? Taking them out and playing with them in public? woodsprite Jun 2014 #29

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
2. Yet those of us who do not worship the gun are supposed to be "comfortable"
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 09:08 AM
Jun 2014

with the presence of guns and goddammit should be THANKFUL that someone is there to save our lives in an emergency!

yellowcanine

(35,692 posts)
4. Just another "good guy with a gun" don'tcha know?
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 09:18 AM
Jun 2014

Well trained and all that......

The pistol was apparently in his front shirt pocket? Is this a common place to carry a gun? So when one bends over it is in danger of falling out?

Maybe preferable to tucking it in your waistband so that if it fires it shoots your balls off?

yellowcanine

(35,692 posts)
6. An armed thug was just getting ready to announce a robbery.....
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 09:28 AM
Jun 2014

In the nick of time pistol man reaches for his gun and saves the day!

 

Michigander_Life

(549 posts)
7. We need to ban all guns and charge gun owners for the seizure expenses
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 09:30 AM
Jun 2014

It's time to ban all guns and repeal the second amendment.

Hunters can use a bow and arrow. Exceptions can be made for those with disabilities and allow them to use a crossbow.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
11. Dont need to repeal it, if we read it correctly access to guns would be
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 09:45 AM
Jun 2014

drastically limited.

But yes, a mature society would look at what is happening and get rid of guns, period, no discussion, end of story

an IMMATURE society would whine about the fun they will miss out on if someone takes their guns

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
12. You'll never repeal the 2A
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 09:46 AM
Jun 2014

However, why can't we enact legislation that upholds the spirit of the 2A?

1. All guns must be registered
2. If an unregistered gun is found in someone's possession, mandatory jail time
3. Each person who owns a gun must submit to going through a mandatory state course on gun safety and have a psychiatric examination before getting a permit. If they choose to carry their gun around, then they must file a surety bond with the state to ensure that their victims are reimbursed for their damages.
4. Each person who has gone through course may have ONE legal gun in his/her issue. Second gun costs $100 and all subsequent registered guns to the same person will be $1000 each to offset training and courses.
5. The registered owner of the gun is 100% responsible for that gun. No ifs, ands or buts. No more "accidental" shootings. Your gun kills someone? Mandatory jail time for involuntary manslaughter.


Yeah. Welcome to my "no tolerance" zone.

yellowcanine

(35,692 posts)
19. A lot of states allow crossbows for hunting already, even for non disabled persons.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:11 AM
Jun 2014
http://www.cabelas.com/category/Crossbow-Regulations/107361180.uts

With proper training, a crossbow is arguably one of the safest ways to hunt deer because of the accuracy and limited range.

sarisataka

(18,458 posts)
25. Don't forget to repeal or at least change
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 01:58 PM
Jun 2014

The 4th and 5th Amendments; better do the 1st as well to pre-empty any problems

Archae

(46,291 posts)
31. Oh right, that'll go over REAL well...
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 02:23 PM
Jun 2014

There are hundreds of millions of guns in the US, guess where there are more?
Canada.
Which country has more killings?

If this "Ban all gunz" stupidity becomes official, yes, only criminals will have them.

You just don't like the fact they make noise.

surrealAmerican

(11,357 posts)
10. We need to be putting people like this in jail ...
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 09:44 AM
Jun 2014

... just like we would with a drunk driver - even if this time nobody was injured.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
13. It's too bad he didn't at least shoot himself in the foot
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 09:46 AM
Jun 2014

Wal-mart and every other retailer should ban guns.

yellowcanine

(35,692 posts)
17. Agree except I would add testicles.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:00 AM
Jun 2014

It would be good for humankind if he were no longer able to reproduce.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
21. I was thinking that
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:20 AM
Jun 2014

But wasn't going to say it. You never know what people might alert on that kind of stuff.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
20. "Man's Pistol goes off" -- they should make a gun that only "goes off" when "Man" pulls the trigger
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:12 AM
Jun 2014

Some of these pistols seem to have anger management issues (at least according to news accounts).

historylovr

(1,557 posts)
23. No kidding.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 11:05 AM
Jun 2014

How is it these guns just go off? Are they faulty? Are they cheap knock-offs, ie Glicks instead of Glocks? Do they lack external safeties? Maybe you're right about it being anger management issues on the part of these pistols. "You looking at me?" Bam!

yellowcanine

(35,692 posts)
32. Actually he may have pulled the trigger.....
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 02:26 PM
Jun 2014
Jasper police said 65-year-old Kenneth Pirtle told them he reached into his front shirt pocket in the store’s checkout area to grab something.
But instead, he accidentally fired the .40-caliber handgun in his pocket.


As is the case with 99% of the "gun goes off" incidents I would guess.

There is a some controversy about whether a modern gun will discharge when dropped but at the least it appears to be a rare event. The consensus seems to be that for a modern handgun to discharge the trigger has to be pulled. With long guns the situation may be a little different.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accidental_discharge

So Walmart man apparently pulled the trigger and thus the pistol did not just "go off" on its own. Reporters should be more careful and say something like "Man in Walmart check out line accidentally discharges pistol." Of course that would require something resembling actual journalism rather than just dashing something off to meet a deadline.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
27. Another jackass with a POS holster.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 02:07 PM
Jun 2014

500 dollar gun with a 5 & dime holster. Holsters should prevent the accidental firing of a weapon, not facilitate it.

woodsprite

(11,900 posts)
29. What are they doing? Taking them out and playing with them in public?
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 02:18 PM
Jun 2014

That should be against the law as well, just like taking various body parts out and playing with them in public is against the law.

Same rules apply:

1) Don't take it out unless you intend to use it.
2) If you play with it too much, it'll go off, and could have unintended consequences

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