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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe red skins need to change their name.
No, not the washington redskins. The Red Mesa redskins. Threy are a high school on an indian reservation. The school is 99% native american.
The principal, who is native american says he doesnt mind the name. Perhaps we should start a campaign to let them know that it is offensive. We need to remove their trademark as well to pressure them into changing their name.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)Why a Native American school might choose to use the term redskins while a white owned team might not have the same leeway?
Bryant
FBaggins
(26,731 posts)Either the word is offensive to them or it isn't.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)and having a label placed upon you? They can choose to accept the term if they want to, but when White America as a whole uses it it's offensive.
You don't understand that?
Bryant
FBaggins
(26,731 posts)I can see that I might say "Boy was I stupid"... but still find it offensive for someone else to call me stupid. But I can't see giving a team or company a name that I would otherwise find offensive for someone else to use.
So theoretically, I can envision an application of what you're saying... I just don't see how it applies here. I can't see a highschool adopting a mascot/name that they consider to be an offensive term.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)Does that High School speak for all native Americans everywhere?
Do you see a difference between a white person saying N***** and a black person saying N*****?
Bryant
Of course not... but neither do the handful of people bringing the patent claim.
Do you see a difference between a white person saying N***** and a black person saying N*****?
A difference? Sure. But neither strikes me as inoffensive (that is... I think it's pretty darn stupid for one person to use it to refer to another regardless of their respective skin color, but as you say, it's their call). I certainly couldn't see an all-black football team calling themselves the "fighting N###". Could you? I suspect this is because, unlike the redskins name, the word is universally accepted as offensive.
For the record... I'm part Iroquis and don't find the team name to be in the least bit offensive - nor met a family member who did (apart from preferring the Patriots).
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Peel them back and watch them bleed!
Oh,
And to the idiots when I brought this up before that thought it was some kind of a reference to "scalping", this is what a scab looks like.
Go COWBOYS!
FBaggins
(26,731 posts)All I see in that photo are a couple redskins and a bronco.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)If you indeed offended as you creatively allege, simply bring the case before the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office to prevent the high school from being the only organization which may profit from the mascot name...
However, you present no information that the school is denying any other organization from profiting from the mascot name... which is precisely what the NFL franchise is doing. Nor do you present any evidence that the high school has a trademark on that name.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)I suppose you also believe the n word should flow freely since rappers and comedians use it.
If a black principal liked the name coon skins and thought it was OK would that MAKE it OK?
All this proves is that indians are capable of being wrong about language and racism just like everyone else. Just because some of them have no problem with the word does not make it an acceptable word.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)They should be more willing to listen and easier to get to change their name. I think we should all email the school board and inform them that the name is offensive to Native Americans.