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babylonsister

(171,035 posts)
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:27 AM Jun 2014

McConnell, Boehner, and the post-policy approach to Iraq

Posted with permission.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/mcconnell-boehner-and-the-post-policy-approach-iraq

McConnell, Boehner, and the post-policy approach to Iraq
06/18/14 11:44 AM
By Steve Benen


Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) declared his dissatisfaction yesterday with the Obama administration’s policy in Iraq, and urged the White House to act quickly. Act how?

McConnell offered no specifics on actions the U.S. should take or how {the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant} could threaten the U.S. Republicans are sharply divided among themselves over possible military intervention.


Hmm. Well, on the other side of Capitol Hill, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) is also dissatisfied and insisted President Obama “get engaged” in Iraq. Engaged how?

“Do you think the U.S. should be launching airstrikes?” inquired Nancy Cordes of CBS News. “And if not, what should the U.S. do?”

“I don’t know enough of the details about the airstrikes to comment,” the speaker answered. All he could propose was that we should “provide the equipment and the technical assistance that the Iraqis have been asking for.”


The Obama administration is providing equipment and technical assistance to Iraq. Why the war-time Speaker of the House doesn’t know that is unclear.

What we’re left with is the latest example of the Republicans’ post-policy problem. They know they disagree with the White House, but they’re not sure why and they have no idea what alternative policy they’d prefer.

Their approach to foreign policy is far more basic. What are they against? Whatever Obama’s for. What policy do they support? Something other than the policy Obama supports.


At least with John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and their allies, there is an underlying policy recommendation. It’s wrong and it doesn’t work, but at least they bring something to the table: a vision in which U.S. troops should be deployed, pretty much everywhere, in response to just about every international challenge that arises.

But the top Republicans in the House and Senate aren’t willing to be nearly as clear. Despite their leadership posts, Boehner’s and McConnell’s foreign policy is “not Obama’s foreign policy.”

In terms of the broader significance, let’s recall the first time we started talking about the post-policy thesis, back in March 2013, when Rachel asked Ezra Klein about the ongoing fiscal fight at the time. “Does that mean that {Republican policymakers are} post-policy?” she asked, adding, “It’s pure politics, just positioning themselves vis-a-vis the president, and they’re not actually invested in any particular outcome?”

Think about how broadly applicable that question is. It certainly seems to apply to U.S. policy in Iraq more than a year later.

What’s more, the fact that Boehner and McConnell don’t have any kind of policy recommendations in this area, other than “do something different,” reinforces the belief that at this point, there really isn’t a clear Republican Party foreign policy. To be sure, there are GOP officials with their own individual set of beliefs, but for the first time in generations, there is no real clarity about what the party itself believes on an institutional level about how the United States should exercise its role in the world.

And that’s unlikely to change anytime soon. Looking ahead to some of the party’s possible leaders in 2016 and beyond, we see a variety of ambitious conservatives – Cruz, Paul, Ryan, Rubio, Christie – none of whom are on the exact same page when it comes to foreign policy.

Finally, I can only hope McConnell and Boehner saw this portion from last night’s A block:

“There is something real that we can do here to sort of cut through both the funny stuff and also the bull. It is the genius of the Founding Fathers and the way they structured our Constitution that when questions of war and peace arise – as they do right now with the terrible situation in Iraq two-and-a-half years after American troops left there – when questions of war and peace arise for us as a nation, it really is very clearly supposed to be the Congress that explicitly makes the decision about what our country should do in terms of military intervention or not.

“It is not the Congress’ place just to go in front of TV cameras and to tweet and to send grandstanding open letters. Article 1 Section 8 of Constitution gives Congress the job of making the actual decisions about real bombs, instead of just throwing rhetorical bombs without consequence.”


I’m afraid “I don’t know enough of the details about the airstrikes to comment” isn’t an especially compelling response.
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McConnell, Boehner, and the post-policy approach to Iraq (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2014 OP
When was the last time Congress took such action? liberal N proud Jun 2014 #1
What would you call the IWR? Bandit Jun 2014 #2
This is where the Teapublican 'know nothing', 'do nothing' party become dangerous........... wandy Jun 2014 #3
The GOP's hatred of the President has reached a point where they consider him an enemy. AlinPA Jun 2014 #4
Obama Needs To Lay This At The Feet Of Congress..... global1 Jun 2014 #5

liberal N proud

(60,332 posts)
1. When was the last time Congress took such action?
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:48 AM
Jun 2014

The last dozen or so military actions have been by executive order.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
2. What would you call the IWR?
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 11:05 AM
Jun 2014

Why is everyone upset with Hillary and Kerry and most other Democratic Senators when they voted to give Bush*/Cheney permission to attack?

wandy

(3,539 posts)
3. This is where the Teapublican 'know nothing', 'do nothing' party become dangerous...........
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 11:09 AM
Jun 2014

Sure, it's OK for them to have their 'Project American Spring' and wander around D.C looking for porta-potties. We can all sit back and laugh at them.

The middle east is the type of situation where the GOP becomes about as large a threat a nation can come up against.

Poor leadership, NO leadership, motivated only by political gain and a desire to enrich their owners.
This behavior is not helpful in difficult times and I dread to think how the GOP would react in a real crises.
How would this fine Teapublican "leadership" react to something as severe as the Cuban missile crises.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
4. The GOP's hatred of the President has reached a point where they consider him an enemy.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 11:18 AM
Jun 2014

I would not be surprised if the GOP "leaders" in their efforts to make the President look bad would share the classified material from the meeting with those who would harm the U.S. The political environment in this country is dangerous now.

global1

(25,224 posts)
5. Obama Needs To Lay This At The Feet Of Congress.....
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 11:50 AM
Jun 2014

Let this be debated in the House and Senate. Get these guys on record. Put it to a vote. He shouldn't let himself be sucked into it by their idiot and inane comments and criticisms. He knows better. He knows that whatever he does they will take the opposite viewpoint. So - put it to them to get on record. Let them make the decision.

We don't need another war. The American People are war weary. They gave up enough of their treasures and blood.

Let's let Congress get on record on this and then hold them accountable in November.

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