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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:31 AM Jun 2014

How Gun Violence Affects Women and 4 Policy Solutions to Better Protect Them

Violence against women looks very different than violence against men. Whether in the context of sexual assault on college campuses or in the military, violence by an intimate partner, or other types of violent victimization, women’s experiences of violence in this country are unique from those of men. One key difference in the violence committed against women in the United States is who commits it: Women are much more likely to be victimized by people they know, while men are more likely to be victims of violent crime at the hands of strangers. Between 2003 and 2012, 65 percent of female violent crime victims were targeted by someone they knew; only 34 percent of male violent crime victims knew their attackers. Intimate partners make up the majority of known assailants: During the same time period, 34 percent of all women murdered were killed by a male intimate partner, compared to the only 2.5 percent of male murder victims killed by a female intimate partner.

A staggering portion of violence against women is fatal, and a key driver of these homicides is access to guns. From 2001 through 2012, 6,410 women were murdered in the United States by an intimate partner using a gun—more than the total number of U.S. troops killed in action during the entirety of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined. Guns are used in fatal intimate partner violence more than any other weapon: Of all the women killed by intimate partners during this period, 55 percent were killed with guns. Women in the United States are 11 times more likely to be murdered with a gun than are women in other high income countries.

Limiting abusers and stalkers’ access to firearms is therefore critical to reduce the number of women murdered in this country every year. This idea is not new: Congress first acted 20 years ago to strengthen our gun laws to prevent some domestic abusers from buying guns. But we are still a long way from having a comprehensive system of laws in place at both the federal and state levels that protect women—and children and men—from fatal violence in the context of intimate and domestic relationships. This report provides an overview of the data regarding the intersection of intimate partner violence and gun violence, describing four policies that states and the federal government should enact to reduce dangerous abusers’ access to guns and prevent murders of women:

http://americanprogress.org/issues/guns-crime/report/2014/06/18/91998/women-under-the-gun/
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How Gun Violence Affects Women and 4 Policy Solutions to Better Protect Them (Original Post) SecularMotion Jun 2014 OP
Here's a better idea - just lock up more domestic abusers derby378 Jun 2014 #1
We don't even enforce what we have now for abusers Lee-Lee Jun 2014 #2
That's why the mania for new laws is nothing more than a mania. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2014 #3
I do agree with much of the linked report Lee-Lee Jun 2014 #4
"we need to back that up with locking up people with orders against them who then try and buy a gun" Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2014 #5
Much of the "failure to enforce" billh58 Jun 2014 #6
Incorrect Lee-Lee Jun 2014 #7
BATFE is notoriously lax about going after straw buyers and 4473 perjurers... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #9
What do you propose to do about the Feds not acting against straw/ineligible... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #8

derby378

(30,252 posts)
1. Here's a better idea - just lock up more domestic abusers
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:36 AM
Jun 2014

We can free space for them in prison by freeing all nonviolent pot convicts.

I have absolutely no problem with the policy initiatives mentioned as long as due process is followed, though.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
2. We don't even enforce what we have now for abusers
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:45 AM
Jun 2014

When I worked domestic violence I had several cases of men (and one woman) with protective orders against them either trying to buy guns or using a straw buyer to get one.

Even trying to buy a gun when you have an order against you is a federal felony.

I tried to get the BATFE to go after them- in every single case, even the straw buyer I had a confession from, they didn't.

It's insanity. Here is a guy with a order for protection against him. He is trying to buy a gun. He commits a felony telling a lie about his eligibility on the form. They refuse to even follow up- so he walks out to pursue whatever means to his end.

They don't even call whatever jurisdiction issued the order and say "hey, this guy just tried to buy a gun, heads up". Only way I found out was I was proactive and updated lists of people in my county at local gun shops so in case NICS didn't get updated in time they would still deny them, and they reported denials from the list to me.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
3. That's why the mania for new laws is nothing more than a mania.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:52 AM
Jun 2014

It's meaningless to pass laws that are not enforced.

Lethal and potentially lethal violence, regardless if it's a gun, other weapon of bare hands, rarely occurs on the spur of the moment. These crimes are years in the making. It's a progression. Depending on locality anywhere from 70% to 90% of killers have prior criminal histories. Domestic abusers are abusers for years before they become deadly.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
4. I do agree with much of the linked report
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:55 AM
Jun 2014

States and municipalities that are not getting data on protective orders into NICS in a timely fashion need to get off their ass and do it.

But we need to back that up with locking up people with orders against them who then try and buy a gun.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
5. "we need to back that up with locking up people with orders against them who then try and buy a gun"
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 12:00 PM
Jun 2014

I absolutely agree.

billh58

(6,635 posts)
6. Much of the "failure to enforce"
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 12:17 PM
Jun 2014

problem can be traced right back to the influence of the NRA and the right-wing gun lobby. In many states (especially in the South) Sheriffs and other police officials are elected, and are afraid of enforcing "gun grabber" laws because of the NRA. In other areas, police officials have flat out stated that they will not enforce gun control regulations, and even threaten to arrest federal officers if they attempt to enforce gun regulations in these local jurisdictions.

The answer lies in electing people who have not been purchased or intimidated, and who will not accept bribes OR threats from the right-wing gun lobby and their lobbying arm -- the NRA.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
7. Incorrect
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 12:31 PM
Jun 2014

The laws I am quoting are Federal laws.

Local agencies don't have authority to prosecute straw buyers or prosecute for perjury on the 4473.

In fact a lot of local agencies would love to be able to enforce these laws. It's typically the same troublemakers they know from other cases, and anything they can throw at them is good.

A good solution would be a change in the law authorizing local agencies to arrest and push these charges, but in my experience US Attorneys are usually not interested in them- they want the big cases that make headlines and build careers.

I have written on here before about how I took fully developed cases to the Feds- even when it was a slam dunk with a videotaped confession it evidently wasn't worth their time.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
9. BATFE is notoriously lax about going after straw buyers and 4473 perjurers...
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 12:56 PM
Jun 2014

...and has been that way for years, beginning long before the present administration
took office.

Obama has a couple of years left in office, cracking down on those two groups
would be a good way of furthering his stated goals in re gun control-not
to mention being a good idea in general.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
8. What do you propose to do about the Feds not acting against straw/ineligible...
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 12:35 PM
Jun 2014

...buyers, as described by Lee-Lee?

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