The man is an artist at what he does, and I respect his skill and competence at it.

it's in the link!

You better fix that!

so why not drag it out just a little longer for dramatic effect?

and left shitty options so I deigned to answer it.... You're welcome.

"T" word. It's sexist, hateful, and there isn't one time I've ever seen or heard it used where I thought it was even remotely acceptable. I can't understand why women use it against each other either.

I love The Rude Pundit, but I hate that word.

a breast euphemism. You're probably right.

American and I hate it. I broke up with a guy who refused to stop using that & the "c" word. I figured he didn't really care very much about me or women in general.

Just because the use of these words in the UK is more normalized doesn't magically change the meaning.

probably because I see it as rougly the same as "twit." I know its British usage, but it doesn't carry the same sting for me personally that the c word does.

Unpush the poll and I'll vote

...creatively and to good effect. Refusing to acknowledge that is silly and overly dogmatic-- precisely the sort of thing the Rude Pundit pokes fun at. Mr Fish, too.

I wasn't familiar with Mr. Fish, and now I've found his website.

Thanks for bringing him to my attention!

I loathe it used regularly but sometimes it is well deserved.

No nuance at all, which is what the world is made up of.

Like everything else in life, context counts.

Make sure we don't talk about movies where "the word" is used either. So, eliminate all posts about Game of Thrones, etc, etc.

The term can be used equally to apply to both genders.

You make a good point. I meant the question with the standard US usage of the word.

People use the b word to refer to both sexes and guess what? It, too, is w misogynist slur in either case.

As far as uttering the dreaded 'C' word, I use it quite frequently (along with a host of other expletives), only directed at myself and/or inanimate objects.

Trust me, you wouldn't want to be within ear shot of me when the !#&&*, %$#!*, %$#*!, *&%*# lawn mower won't start, or I bruise a knuckle when the ratchet slips.

when discussions of that word come up.

Tell me, does the N word ever slip out in your tirades?

You know that is the exact same logic Freepers use to justify saying f** and f****t, right?

n/t

a.k.a. NEVER.

So does that mean women reserve the right to use it if they want?

I think it's still a bigoted form of vulgarity. Having a right to do something doesn't shield the "right" from criticism.

If ones gets upset over being called a name go seek professional mental help.

Now from what I understand that certain words are banned here that is fine this a is a private place, the owners can make the rules and we have to abide by them when posting.

Now in public I have used the c word as has my wife and according to her it is ok when it is deserved.

Anais Nin, Charles Bukowski, Henry Miller, Cormac McCarthy, etc.


When is it ok to refer to a man as a dick or a prick?

Since the gun is representative of that in the minds of many. Which, as stated elsewhere, ignores what the real issue is with that particular fetishism.

i have once or twice pretended to use it by saying c _ _ t

or something like that

but to me it is no different than the Q or N word...not gonna use it, not my place...

ONLY Women can use it and have an opinion on this, I have no right to do anything with that word ...

but there are a few Women I would like to call that

Not even a little bit the same.

I wouldnt want anything to do with you but go ahead

And the other is not.

I personally think it's just a word, and if the users were universally ignored or laughed at, it would probably fall out of use.
I don't employ the term because most of the women I love, but in particular my darling wife, hate it; and that's good enough for me.
Because if it's just a word, it costs me nothing to delete it from my vocabulary. (And thank you for not employing the lazy-ass tactic of pretending that my questions somehow constituted some form of advocacy.)

It's harder to address the cultural weight of the words. The fact that their use either feeds or fights against oppression. There is rarely any middle ground.

People keep pointing out art as a defense: 'Well this character said it' or whatever. In each such instance, we are learning something about the character who is using bigoted language.

When Ed Norton did so in American History X, we were not sympathizing with his sentiments as a character. We were being shown how fucked up that character was.

When the rude pundit uses bigoted insults, but we are agreeing with what he's saying as his 'character'... not exactly rocket science.

I'm curious if anyone is aware of him using racist insults. If so I sure haven't seen it.

I doubt this is the only instance. In movies all of the slurs can be found being spoken by people when the character might say something like that.

I remember the movie about the Neo-Nazi march in Skokie. There were tons of antisemitic comments by characters in that movie.

Matthew Mcconaughey made homophobic remarks in Dallas Buyers Club.

The point I am making is, in character, these things are acceptable.

At the risk of being pedantic, Lee Papa posts these missives as "The Rude Pundit", not as Lee Papa. It's a character he plays.

I'm sure we would all agree that Stephen Colbert is not a Republican. But if we are going to take HIS words literally on his show, he is one. But he is not. It's a character he plays that is a caricature of one or more conservative pundits.

suit his writings, I suppose. Democratic Underground also has a perfect right to limit the use of his words, if the community votes to exclude them. Freedom of speech works in many ways, and only applies to governmental limitations.

Posting the content of the link here will almost certainly get that post hidden. Almost certainly.

Is how people then miss the point of the whole message by concentrating on one thing or word choice.

Rather than discuss the meat of the matter, we get stuck on a word or two.

I can understand that it is not OK to use such things, but take it outside of the conversation.
Plenty of times, instead of having a conversation on how things are, or should be, people get distracted by these things, which pretty much just sidetracks whatever discussion was going on.

So no, it is not OK, but more often than not, people tend to concentrate on that, while invalidating the whole point made, and that is what does not get addressed instead.

The rude pundit doesn't like the Cheneys. He thinks their critique of Obama hypocritical. That essentially was the point of the piece. It's not like there was any probing analysis.

(And no, I wasn't the alerter or on the jury that hid it.)

It isn't just that instance though, but yeah it happens.

But there really isn't anything to the piece other than the crudenss.

Still, I was making a broader point in where people not just here get stuck with one or two words in a particular post and basically it invalidates their whole message since it gets stuck on the argument about terms.

Which is why, like I mentioned, is that yeah, it is not OK doing what was done, but not just for that, we'd have to still look over the point of the message.

I also agree that the piece is not really much else other than crudeness, but all I am saying is that people get fixated on these things, that the original topic gets lost sometimes.

Kinda like how, let's say the ACA, Republicans insert the abortion issue in there, and then people get fixated on just that, losing the point entirely. I am not saying that things are as drastic as that, just that people miss the forest due to the leaves/trees.

I am not defending the Rude Pundit on this one, just mentioning the trend.

It's true of American society more generally. People can act in all kinds of offensive (eg. racist) ways, and they catch little flack for it, but use the wrong word, and then they face a public backlash. And of course the broader story is missed--whether that is the point of an article or policy and practices that are discriminatory.

...at the 'c' word here's some advice: don't ever go to Ireland. They use the word as a noun, verb, adjective, pronoun, gerund and any other part of speech you can think of.

If you don't like people who use the c word don't hang out with them

Simple

I don't like pubs so I don't hang out with them, I don't like magos so I don't eat mango...... Simple!

I don't ban mangos or say no one can have mangos when I am around because I do not like them. Same with words don't like a word don't use it.

Words don't have opinions. That said, the use of slurs inspires people to feel bad. I generally don't like to make the people around me feel bad, so I avoid all slurs. However, if everyone around me uses a slur, then I would feel comfortable using the slur too, but I usually don't because slurs are not an everyday part of my speech.

Hearing the "c" word to refer to people, as opposed to a body part, used to be rare where I live, but I have been hearing it used as an insult much more frequently lately.

Next thing you'll be saying to boycott Shakespeare because of anti-semitism, scenes of under age sex - oh - and talking about Country matters.

Don't like the Shakespeare analogy? Think it is over the top? Then go suck on a lolipop and remember that context is everything

I love the Rude Pundit but.....I truly detest that word

But I also hafta admit there's a double standard. Calling someone a "prick" is technically just as offensive, but doesn't have the same sting to it.

I would categorize prick with dick and pussy, and c*** is nowhere near them

I don't know why they get so upset.

Calling someone a C or an asshole or dick .... there are worse things - like war, famine, child slavery, etc. etc. etc. It just doesn't register that high on my outrage meter.

setting we are talking about. Regarding DU, obviously not cool to use certain well known offensive words.

In a book, or if I'm reading an article, or other people talking in public, all words are acceptable, no exceptions. What I mean by that re: speaking in public, is that others who I overhear might use offensive language, but I don't consider it any of my business.

When talking about freedom of speech, ultimately, I would never ban any words, period.

By that I mean, to point out that the c word reduces a human being to one part of their anatomy, which is thus automatically deemed "bad." That is the context that renders the word so difficult to deal with and offensive. To argue differently is to miss the meaning, whether deliberately or just through sheer ignorance.

Usually, the context is as a slur, intended to verbally abuse and insult half of Homo sapiens, and in that case, that's not cool.

The Rude Pundit uses the word sarcastically, and often to bring up the real issues of misogyny and abuse.

And apparently I have to censor myself because I can't even type the "c" word here, even if I'm not calling someone that, without getting the post hidden.

Some folks around here are just thin skinned and ridiculous.

In some societies, I understand, the c-word is a unisex term.

An American using it to denigrate a woman? That's probably going to reek of chavinism, and I am not interested in folliwing a link to pass a particular judgment.

To my American ears, it smells of stupis as well.