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You want that back? (Original Post) Playinghardball Jun 2014 OP
We defeated communism? Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #1
-1 daleanime Jun 2014 #3
Interstate complex was initiated by Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #5
And no one else makes any use of it? daleanime Jun 2014 #6
Ha! Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #7
OK, I admit it... daleanime Jun 2014 #9
Don't get me wrong. I love me a good road trip too Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #10
The point, I think, is that without the MIC you would never have seen the highway system, a man jtuck004 Jun 2014 #18
Yeah, what he said Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #19
Not better, just different. And it is a good point you brought up. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2014 #23
... Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #25
OK, thank you..... daleanime Jun 2014 #20
"toss aside...dubious purposes" < No, not at all. jtuck004 Jun 2014 #22
My response is specific to the OP Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #24
So was the Alcan Highway. raven mad Jun 2014 #26
I'll still take Velcro Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #28
Agreed, Boom Sound. raven mad Jun 2014 #29
... Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #30
Someone will soon be here to point out that people didn't actually "pay" those high rates ... dawg Jun 2014 #2
+1 daleanime Jun 2014 #4
They no longer want a middle class. They want a servant class. Selfish, greedy MFers. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2014 #11
They didn't want a middle class then, either. dawg Jun 2014 #12
Seems you're saying they made a choice. They could have just chosen to pay the taxes. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2014 #15
And the rich still got richer, but everyone else got some too. Bandit Jun 2014 #8
Plus, they can put it on steroids now by offshoring labor to the third world. dawg Jun 2014 #13
+1, emphatically! (No text) raven mad Jun 2014 #27
Yeah!!! bvar22 Jun 2014 #14
A Little More Detail HenryWallace Jun 2014 #16
ESPECIALLY on the huge multinational corporations that shipped most jobs overseas and hid tblue37 Jun 2014 #17
taxes gives me warm cuddly feelings inside. NuttyFluffers Jun 2014 #21
 

Boom Sound 416

(4,185 posts)
5. Interstate complex was initiated by
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:32 PM
Jun 2014

Ike for precisely the MIC

It's purposes were strategic and military

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
9. OK, I admit it...
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:53 PM
Jun 2014

I have no idea where your going with this.



Also not sure I want to be informed about the heart of darkness that is the interstate highway system.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
18. The point, I think, is that without the MIC you would never have seen the highway system, a man
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 05:48 PM
Jun 2014

on the moon, the schools ramped up for science, etc. And without another one, may never.

It wasn't done because rational people knew that by investing in each other we would all be richer, it was done partly out of fear and partly to make really wealthy people even wealthier..

The economy is shitty and getting worse for many, with 9 million homes underwater, most new jobs being created (home health aide is the fastest growing) will require the use of food stamps and other relief just to perform them, we haven't create any net new jobs since 2008 while we added 15 million new people, and we have about 50 million in poverty. Virtually across the board there is no improvement on paper for anyone except the Mi$$ RobMe crowd.

The answer, as it was in that part of the last century, is to invest in ourselves again, but sans a war, there is no one pushing for these things in anything but the most lukewarm manner.

And we continue to circle the drain.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
20. OK, thank you.....
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 08:00 PM
Jun 2014

definitely get a better idea of where he was coming from. I just hope you wouldn't argue that we should toss aside every advance that mankind has had that may have been influenced by dubious purposes.



If you think we are circling the drain now, try tossing aside the internet, highways, etc... and see how quick we go down the drain.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
22. "toss aside...dubious purposes" < No, not at all.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 09:50 PM
Jun 2014

Then again, the highway bridges are falling in the rivers, and the bigger pipes through the Internet are being sold off to the highest bidder - so we might get to see that in addition to everything else.

eek.
 

Boom Sound 416

(4,185 posts)
24. My response is specific to the OP
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:12 PM
Jun 2014

It wasn't a (that) marginal tax rate boon that produced all those feats.


dawg

(10,610 posts)
2. Someone will soon be here to point out that people didn't actually "pay" those high rates ...
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:19 PM
Jun 2014

but that is irrelevant.

The reason they didn't pay the high rates is because it was preferable for them to just hire more workers instead. Everyone was much less stressed that way, all the company cars were washed, a real human answered the phone, and there was plenty of excess capacity in case something happened to require it.

In other words, instead of paying those high tax rates, the plutocrats chose, instead, to just use that money to build a middle class.

dawg

(10,610 posts)
12. They didn't want a middle class then, either.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 05:05 PM
Jun 2014

It was just preferable to reporting huge profits, 90% of which would go to taxes.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
15. Seems you're saying they made a choice. They could have just chosen to pay the taxes.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 05:11 PM
Jun 2014

Either way though, somebody besides the 1% wins, so, yeah, raise the damn tax rates on the super rich!

It's hard to believe how successful the RW has been in demonizing the idea of paying for infrastructure and other things that benefit the community in general with tax dollars. The whole "tax is theft" meme shows how twisted their minds have become.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
8. And the rich still got richer, but everyone else got some too.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:44 PM
Jun 2014

Now it is ALL for the rich and everyone else be damned...

dawg

(10,610 posts)
13. Plus, they can put it on steroids now by offshoring labor to the third world.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 05:07 PM
Jun 2014

That wasn't really possible when Communists were running around everywhere, nationalizing the hell out of factories.

 

HenryWallace

(332 posts)
16. A Little More Detail
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 05:35 PM
Jun 2014

92% rate started in today's dollars at about 3.5 million and applied only to unearned income (dividends, interest, rents and royalties).

Earned income (Wages, etc.) maxed out at 70%.

Capital gains were taxed at a flat 25% (or marginal rate if lower).

tblue37

(64,982 posts)
17. ESPECIALLY on the huge multinational corporations that shipped most jobs overseas and hid
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 05:45 PM
Jun 2014

their money offshore to avoid paying even the minimal amount of taxes that they couldn't make disappear by purchasing the legislators and persuading them to keep lowering tax rates and adding loopholes

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