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ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts) Thu Jun 19, 2014, 11:44 PM Jun 2014

What. The. Fuck. is this shit!!??

U.S. talking to Chalabi, originator of WMD lies, while pushing to replace Iraqi leader Maliki

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025121565

Are you fucking kidding me??? We're doing this shit AGAIN???

So we weren't really finished with Iraq after all? And the goddamned NEOCONS are going to get their second chance?

Is this what you're telling me?

SMMFGDH!!!

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What. The. Fuck. is this shit!!?? (Original Post) ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 OP

let's send george w and his dick :-) nt msongs Jun 2014 #1

So just George W, then? n/t cactusfractal Jun 2014 #5

And we are still talking to Chalabi. I don't think we will ever learn. jwirr Jun 2014 #2

Obviously we need to find a new "Curveball" since his info was so reliable. dballance Jun 2014 #3

I hope you're right that we learned something. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #6

'Curveball, Chalabi, is there a difference? This is like a horrible nightmare repeated!! sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #9

Yes, yes we are nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #4

There needs to be an organized boycott on enlisting in the military. Mr.Bill Jun 2014 #7

Omfg! Chalabi?? Nooooo!! sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #8

Chalabi.mp3 the song. johnnyreb Jun 2014 #10

I hope Obama hears about this! I am sure he will put an end to it. Dragonfli Jun 2014 #11

cue Bill Murray grasswire Jun 2014 #12

Obama elected to end Iraq. Instead, goes back in. Can you imagine if this happened with Vietnam???? grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #13

This is what happens when the media is completely controlled. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #14

Someone posted this yesterday. CrispyQ Jun 2014 #15

Chalabi is a politician. He used his political skills to win over Cheney and Co. jeff47 Jun 2014 #16

msongs

(67,347 posts)

1. let's send george w and his dick :-) nt

Reply to ChisolmTrailDem (Original post)

Thu Jun 19, 2014, 11:46 PM

Jun 2014

cactusfractal

(494 posts)

5. So just George W, then? n/t

Reply to msongs (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 20, 2014, 12:59 AM

Jun 2014

jwirr

(39,215 posts)

2. And we are still talking to Chalabi. I don't think we will ever learn.

Reply to ChisolmTrailDem (Original post)

Fri Jun 20, 2014, 12:00 AM

Jun 2014

dballance

(5,756 posts)

3. Obviously we need to find a new "Curveball" since his info was so reliable.

Reply to ChisolmTrailDem (Original post)

Fri Jun 20, 2014, 12:56 AM

Jun 2014

I'm pretty sure the American people are not going to fall for this shit the second time around. Too many of them know veterans who were killed or maimed last time around.

The uproar to stay out of Syria was a good example of how we might have actually learned something in the last 10 years or so.

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)

6. I hope you're right that we learned something. nt

Reply to dballance (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 20, 2014, 12:59 AM

Jun 2014

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)

9. 'Curveball, Chalabi, is there a difference? This is like a horrible nightmare repeated!!

Reply to dballance (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 20, 2014, 01:04 AM

Jun 2014

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)

4. Yes, yes we are

Reply to ChisolmTrailDem (Original post)

Fri Jun 20, 2014, 12:59 AM

Jun 2014

and somewhere in hell, if hell exists, Sadam IS smiling.

Mr.Bill

(24,228 posts)

7. There needs to be an organized boycott on enlisting in the military.

Reply to ChisolmTrailDem (Original post)

Fri Jun 20, 2014, 01:00 AM

Jun 2014

That will get their attention. I dare them to start a draft.

In the words of Mario Savio, leader of the free speech movement at Berkeley in the 60s: We refuse to be part of the have your children for lunch program. Fuck 'em.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)

8. Omfg! Chalabi?? Nooooo!!

Reply to ChisolmTrailDem (Original post)

Fri Jun 20, 2014, 01:02 AM

Jun 2014

johnnyreb

(915 posts)

10. Chalabi.mp3 the song.

Reply to ChisolmTrailDem (Original post)

Fri Jun 20, 2014, 01:09 AM

Jun 2014

http://members.peak.org/~greglief/cc/Chalabi.html

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)

11. I hope Obama hears about this! I am sure he will put an end to it.

Reply to ChisolmTrailDem (Original post)

Fri Jun 20, 2014, 01:19 AM

Jun 2014

grasswire

(50,130 posts)

12. cue Bill Murray

Reply to ChisolmTrailDem (Original post)

Fri Jun 20, 2014, 01:26 AM

Jun 2014

Groundhog Day.

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)

13. Obama elected to end Iraq. Instead, goes back in. Can you imagine if this happened with Vietnam????

Reply to ChisolmTrailDem (Original post)

Fri Jun 20, 2014, 01:50 AM

Jun 2014

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)

14. This is what happens when the media is completely controlled.

Reply to ChisolmTrailDem (Original post)

Fri Jun 20, 2014, 06:52 AM

Jun 2014

They did not adequately discredit Chalabi the first time around.

CrispyQ

(36,413 posts)

15. Someone posted this yesterday.

Reply to ChisolmTrailDem (Original post)

Fri Jun 20, 2014, 09:52 AM

Jun 2014

It's a seriously depressing read.

Americans Are Dangerously Politically Ignorant -- The Numbers Are Shocking
The nation’s collective ignorance paves the way for extremist politicians to validate their positions to the public.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/americans-are-dangerously-politically-ignorant-numbers-are-shocking?akid=11928.1084699.voxA4C&rd=1&src=newsletter1003923&t=3&paging=off

snip...

Ignoring the self-delusion of the latter part of the above text, Brat now joins no less than 200 million Americans, according to a number of polls, who believe the U.S. Constitution and our laws are based on Judeo-Christian values. On any given Sunday you will hear Christian-right politicians claim absurdly that U.S. laws are based on the Bible. Spoiler alert: they’re dead wrong. The Constitution’s secular provisions came into being thanks to the Founding Fathers, who shared a deep suspicion of both organized religion and the supernatural. The Constitution was framed with a conscious omission of any mention of God and a prohibition of all religious tests for public office. Moreover, the First Amendment’s declaration that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion” embodied the founders’ view that religion has no place in the political domain.

That not a single major media outlet bothered to correct Brat’s ignorance represents America’s continual decline in American civic and cultural literacy.

“Every shortcoming of American governance is related in some fashion to the knowledge deficit of the public – if only because there is no widespread indignation at policies shaped by elected officials who suffer from the same intellectual blind spots as their constituents,” observed Susan Jacoby, author of The Age of American Unreason.

If the rich can profit off of another clusterfuck in Iraq, they will get it.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)

16. Chalabi is a politician. He used his political skills to win over Cheney and Co.

Reply to ChisolmTrailDem (Original post)

Fri Jun 20, 2014, 12:39 PM

Jun 2014

by lying to them.

He has since used his political skills to amass a significant following in Iraq. That means he's one of the potential candidates to replace Maliki. The article you didn't bother quoting mentions we also talked to other potential candidates, and even the Sunnis who can't possibly win the PM.

We don't get to pick who comes to political power in other countries.....at least, that's how it's supposed to work. So we get to talk to people like Chalabi when the scumbag has amassed political power.

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