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doxydad

(1,363 posts)
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 08:45 AM Jun 2014

3 reasons a higher gas tax would benefit drivers

Americans tend to regard cheap gasoline as a national birthright. So go ahead and hyperventilate for a moment before considering the alien idea that maybe it would be good to pay a bit more for gas.

A new bipartisan bill in Congress would raise the federal gas tax by 12 cents per gallon, in two annual hikes of 6 cents each. The reason for this sure-to-be-unpopular plan is that the Highway Trust Fund, which pays for interstate highways and other important parts of the nation’s road network, is out of money. That leaves a choice between taking the needed funds from other programs (every one of which has powerful protectors in Washington) or foregoing road-building and maintenance.

Read it here:
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/3-reasons-a-higher-gas-tax-would-be-good-for-drivers-164254945.html



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3 reasons a higher gas tax would benefit drivers (Original Post) doxydad Jun 2014 OP
25 percent of federal gas tax funds are diverted to non-highway uses liberal N proud Jun 2014 #1
Meaningless stat taterguy Jun 2014 #3
Do you call transportation such as buses non-highway uses? jwirr Jun 2014 #9
Part of the taxes are supposed to be diverted to transit. OnlinePoker Jun 2014 #18
Thank you. I do not own a car and I use those buses as do many of the people in our community. jwirr Jun 2014 #19
If a portion of the funding were used IronLionZion Jun 2014 #2
Let's just cut the tax breaks we give the oil companies a little and use that Autumn Jun 2014 #4
Well, that's just crazy talk there! Le Taz Hot Jun 2014 #5
It is isn't it? But they way I see it is it's better they pay a tax of 6 cents a gallon than Autumn Jun 2014 #8
Problem there is that they'll just raise prices to recoup the tax and nobody will stop them. bluesbassman Jun 2014 #12
I'm pretty damn sure we are being gouged, first by the oil companies and then by the politicians Autumn Jun 2014 #14
And the wheels on the bus go round and round... bluesbassman Jun 2014 #16
Another regressive tax is just what this wrecked economy needs.... Demo_Chris Jun 2014 #6
Must be, a Democrats is co sponsoring it. I hope it goes Autumn Jun 2014 #10
It's pretty sad when we have to hope for GOP obstructionism... Demo_Chris Jun 2014 #20
raise taxes on the wealthy and then let's talk about cali Jun 2014 #7
That is what I was thinking - once the rich have started giving their share THEN we can talk about jwirr Jun 2014 #11
This is something I completely agree with you on. Xyzse Jun 2014 #15
Think of all the Construction/Repair people and Service workers who have to drive KoKo Jun 2014 #13
I know a lot of people who are struggling gollygee Jun 2014 #17
I drive a decent distance to and from work, isn't there a better way? riseabove Jun 2014 #21
Fortunately, I am retired now and don't do much driving. RebelOne Jun 2014 #22

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
1. 25 percent of federal gas tax funds are diverted to non-highway uses
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 08:56 AM
Jun 2014

Myth: Proceeds from the federal gas tax are used to build and maintain the interstate highway system.



http://reason.com/archives/2011/06/17/the-facts-about-transportation

taterguy

(29,582 posts)
3. Meaningless stat
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 09:49 AM
Jun 2014

As stated elsewhere in the article, lots of general revenue from the federal government is spent on roads.

All government entities spend money on roads. That's why calculating the subsidy cars get is so difficult: You have to analyze the budgets of every federal, state and local government entity. You also have to agree on what constitutes a subsidy. What portion of the defense budget should you count, since almost all of it is devoted to insuring that oil flows freely?

OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
18. Part of the taxes are supposed to be diverted to transit.
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 10:29 AM
Jun 2014

The Surface Transportation Assistance Act of 1982 (signed by Reagan) increased federal gas taxes to 9 cents with 1 cent being used for a mass transit account.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_Trust_Fund

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
19. Thank you. I do not own a car and I use those buses as do many of the people in our community.
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 10:35 AM
Jun 2014

However, the buses also use the horrible roads that we have inherited from raygun's trickle down nonsense. So I know the infrastructure needs fixing. I just think that a raise in the amount that the rich and the corporations pay would help better than taxing the poor and workers.

IronLionZion

(45,404 posts)
2. If a portion of the funding were used
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 09:32 AM
Jun 2014

to round up every upper middle class urban hipster who takes the subway to their nice trendy office job and smugly brags about their "car free diet" and savagely beat the shit out of them, then maybe. I have a jealous hatred of such people. We should all be so fortunate.

But as long as America Inc. decides to have a contracting/temp economy with multi-state work locations and builds suburban office parks further and further away, then many more workers will be driving their hybrids even longer multi-hour commutes and wishing even more violence upon smug hipsters who sip their tea in coffee shops on their laptops looking at cat videos.

Autumn

(45,023 posts)
8. It is isn't it? But they way I see it is it's better they pay a tax of 6 cents a gallon than
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 10:04 AM
Jun 2014

the people pay it. or maybe that 1/10 of a cent that they collect. I've never paid 9/10 of a cent for anything, except gas.

bluesbassman

(19,366 posts)
12. Problem there is that they'll just raise prices to recoup the tax and nobody will stop them.
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 10:15 AM
Jun 2014

We're close to peak price now and a barrel of oil is nowhere near peak price.

If I didn't know better, I'd think we were being gouged.

Autumn

(45,023 posts)
14. I'm pretty damn sure we are being gouged, first by the oil companies and then by the politicians
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 10:18 AM
Jun 2014

who get paid by the oil companies to pass legislation that favors them over the people.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
6. Another regressive tax is just what this wrecked economy needs....
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 09:59 AM
Jun 2014

Are Democrats this fucking evil that they would support this?

Autumn

(45,023 posts)
10. Must be, a Democrats is co sponsoring it. I hope it goes
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 10:09 AM
Jun 2014

off in a corner and dies. It's bullshit.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
20. It's pretty sad when we have to hope for GOP obstructionism...
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 03:21 PM
Jun 2014

To prevent our own party from fucking us over.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
7. raise taxes on the wealthy and then let's talk about
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 10:04 AM
Jun 2014

what amounts to a burden on the poor and working people.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
11. That is what I was thinking - once the rich have started giving their share THEN we can talk about
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 10:11 AM
Jun 2014

how the rest of us contribute.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
13. Think of all the Construction/Repair people and Service workers who have to drive
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 10:16 AM
Jun 2014

long distances to work. About the people who work two and three jobs who live way outside the
cities where the jobs are because they can't afford to live closer.

This would be a disaster for them.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
17. I know a lot of people who are struggling
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 10:23 AM
Jun 2014

Who need to drive to get to work but have a hard time scraping together money for gas so they can get to work. A tax like this hits them hard.

I'd like to see a plan to fix roads that doesn't fall so hard on the working poor.

 

riseabove

(70 posts)
21. I drive a decent distance to and from work, isn't there a better way?
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 04:46 PM
Jun 2014

Why do I get punished, and these big corporations get tax breaks and loopholes? Sorry but I can't back this. Nevermind that prices seem to go up for everything.

I can see this being an easy $20-$30 a month for someone like me who drives a lot to get to work. Maybe not a lot of money to some people but means a lot to me.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
22. Fortunately, I am retired now and don't do much driving.
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 04:55 PM
Jun 2014

But when I was working, I used to feel like I was working to pay for the gas to go back and forth to work.

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