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grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 02:16 PM Jun 2014

When Obama says we are going to fight for "American Interests', he means the oil, right???

While "American forces will not be returning to combat in Iraq," Obama said that the U.S. "will help Iraqis as they take the fight to terrorists who threaten the Iraqi people, the region and American interests as well."


Or is it something else?
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When Obama says we are going to fight for "American Interests', he means the oil, right??? (Original Post) grahamhgreen Jun 2014 OP
Oil. Autumn Jun 2014 #1
This being the case, we will have a special tax on big oil profits to pay for it, I hope! grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #9
... SammyWinstonJack Jun 2014 #13
It amazes me that it's not even an issue - no talk of oil or how we pay. grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #14
"american interest" has meant "oil" for quite a long time now.... unblock Jun 2014 #2
What other interest would we have? I am asking half seriously. jwirr Jun 2014 #3
Still true today. From about 45 years ago. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #4
We do have embassies there as well. JaneyVee Jun 2014 #5
And quite the embassy this one is: think Jun 2014 #7
Yes, we do have quite the massive erection in the desert over there. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #11
CNN: Why the war in Iraq was fought for Big Oil factsarenotfair Jun 2014 #6
Well, we're not trying to control the palm dates market. HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #8
This was a rhetorical question, right?..... socialist_n_TN Jun 2014 #10
No, it's oil. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2014 #12
Of course it's the oil WhoIsNumberNone Jun 2014 #15
It doesn't even mean oil but rather the interests of the extraction industry. TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #16
Shell & BP are not US companies, also elehhhhna Jun 2014 #17
You kow, nobody voted for this war for oil crap! grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #18
so much has changed since 2003 - fact is, we don't need iraq's reserves - we can frack more here ina elehhhhna Jun 2014 #19
Big Oil has had some great years, trashed the Constitution, lots of munitions used and equipment TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #20
 

think

(11,641 posts)
7. And quite the embassy this one is:
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 02:33 PM
Jun 2014
Embassy of the United States, Baghdad

The Embassy of the United States of America in Baghdad is the diplomatic mission of United States of America in the Republic of Iraq. At 4,700,000 sq ft (440,000 m2), it is the largest and most expensive embassy in the world, and is nearly as large as Vatican City.[1] Ambassador Robert S. Beecroft is currently the Chief of Mission.

The embassy complex employs 15,000 people and cost $750 million to build. The Embassy opened in January 2009 following a series of construction delays. It replaced the previous embassy, which opened July 1, 2004 in Baghdad's Green Zone in a former Palace of Saddam Hussein.[2]...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embassy_of_the_United_States,_Baghdad

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
16. It doesn't even mean oil but rather the interests of the extraction industry.
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 07:33 PM
Jun 2014

The oil isn't for us but for the global market and the bottom line of these "stakeholders".

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
17. Shell & BP are not US companies, also
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 07:35 PM
Jun 2014

exxon pays little to no us income tax so they aren't all that American either.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
19. so much has changed since 2003 - fact is, we don't need iraq's reserves - we can frack more here ina
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 08:57 PM
Jun 2014

than they can produce using conventional and unconventional methods

I'm not a frack fan but iirc Iraq produces 3mm bbl in the same time as we produce 9mm

this tech was not widely used back then




American ingenuity made the whole Iraq invasion a total waste. Not economic. Typical GWBush oil-related move. Expensive failure.

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
20. Big Oil has had some great years, trashed the Constitution, lots of munitions used and equipment
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 11:13 PM
Jun 2014

ordered, Everest levels of "drown the pig", huge (and rightful, sadly) increase in distrust of our government, value sulked the he'll out of the economy, fear magnified, destabilize a region, generate large numbers of hostiles, pull the rug out on any secularism and education, force the market up.

Sounds like he got EXACTLY what he was after, the "secret" underlying reasons are also red herrings. There was no actual desire to increase supply and "get that oil". They wanted to drive up the price and leverage the instability to get access to areas with means they never could and it never made sense economically but one the price could be driven up this alternative means and areas became profitable.

It isn't just Bush either, Obama is up in it too. See Libya. See the dancing around with Russia. Softer touch? Sure, up in the shenanigans? Oh yes and setting up the water choke and grab nicely while doing it. We are going to be in some deep ass shit.

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