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WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 02:29 PM Jun 2014

THAT'S IT. GAME OVER. We have reached maximum Iraq hypocrisy saturation.

Judith Miller Is Criticizing The Media's Iraq Coverage. No, Really

Fox News turned once more to former New York Times reporter Judith Miller on Friday for a discussion about how the media is handling the current crisis in Iraq.

Miller might not be the first choice for many people to discuss this topic, given her status as the most prominent symbol of the media's disastrous reporting in the run-up to the Iraq War, but Fox News apparently felt otherwise, asking her on for two Fridays in a row to criticize the media's coverage of Iraq's battle with militant group ISIS.

During her latest appearance, the elephant of Miller's past was an even bigger presence in the Fox News studios, as she took aim at those who have critiqued the media's continued reliance on Iraq War hawks.

"The media still loves to beat up on who was responsible for the Iraq War, and who was to blame for the current controversy...and that is not helpful," she said.

The rest: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/20/judith-miller-media-critic-iraq-fox-news_n_5515427.html?utm_hp_ref=media

My face just exploded.
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THAT'S IT. GAME OVER. We have reached maximum Iraq hypocrisy saturation. (Original Post) WilliamPitt Jun 2014 OP
I...........I..........ER.......... Skittles Jun 2014 #1
Just like the aspens these fuckers are all connected at the roots Autumn Jun 2014 #2
right wing left wing... pretzel4gore Jun 2014 #53
"Sometimes the facts that you have...aren't always necessarily going to be perfect," G_j Jun 2014 #3
facts are ALWAYS perfect, that's what differentiates them from opinions and OUTRIGHT LIES... Volaris Jun 2014 #23
so now they change the meaning of "facts" G_j Jun 2014 #39
Perhaps we should call it "Luntzian" Jack Rabbit Jun 2014 #49
K & R Liberal_Dog Jun 2014 #4
That's a DUZY AND a formal protest! Demeter Jun 2014 #14
That response is tactless. Half-Century Man Jun 2014 #33
In other news, don't miss Tonya Harding's special on Ethics and Sportsmanship in Figure Skating pinboy3niner Jun 2014 #5
chuckled a bit there..... think Jun 2014 #13
A real knee slapper QuestForSense Jun 2014 #16
Uh oh catchnrelease Jun 2014 #19
I couldn't Kerrigan less pinboy3niner Jun 2014 #21
You are the master! catchnrelease Jun 2014 #34
"She knacked her in the whee." - The Capitol Steps nt PCIntern Jun 2014 #54
+1 catchnrelease Jun 2014 #55
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2014 #27
Good one! Raksha Jun 2014 #36
It's been a while since I had high school history IDemo Jun 2014 #6
The roaches are all coming out n2doc Jun 2014 #7
I love they act like it was 50 years ago Skittles Jun 2014 #9
No Judith, the media doesn't even scratch the surface of who's responsible for the Iraq war... bluesbassman Jun 2014 #8
Her glory days:THREATS AND RESPONSES:THE IRAQIS; U.S.SAYS HUSSEIN INTENSIFIES QUEST FOR A-BOMB PARTS Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #10
And we've seen the return of the original Iraq Pack! Initech Jun 2014 #11
This entire thing is unfolding like a "Saturday Night Live" sketch. bullwinkle428 Jun 2014 #12
Judith Miller: A lying "BCW" DinahMoeHum Jun 2014 #15
If you think for one minute, WilliamPitt, Cracklin Charlie Jun 2014 #17
Miller Time? I don't think so. Blue Owl Jun 2014 #18
It was only a matter of time gratuitous Jun 2014 #20
Oh, No - They Have LOTS More Hypocrisy Leith Jun 2014 #22
Perfectly put. You really have a way with words. factsarenotfair Jun 2014 #28
Just STFU, Judith deutsey Jun 2014 #24
she knows who signs her checks. Javaman Jun 2014 #25
Have they no shame?? madinmaryland Jun 2014 #26
The cockroaches are all crawling out of their secure location suffragette Jun 2014 #29
Who cares what this onecaliberal Jun 2014 #30
After a while, all you can do is laugh- KrazyinKS Jun 2014 #31
Damn. Solly Mack Jun 2014 #32
Let's bring back Condi to talk about mushroom clouds and the Chimp can say aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2014 #35
Fuck. progressoid Jun 2014 #37
'Sometimes the facts you have aren't going to be perfect' ?? pa28 Jun 2014 #38
she isn't a working journalist. she is a well-paid shill. niyad Jun 2014 #51
She polishes her facts the way a real journalist polishes her phrases. QuestForSense Jun 2014 #56
This is like the world's worst acid flashback. geomon666 Jun 2014 #40
We have to stop the NEW war. grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #45
Hell, they are all just trying to relive their glory days. Kablooie Jun 2014 #41
Gory days pinboy3niner Jun 2014 #42
"Methinks the lady doth protest overmuch". nt Zorra Jun 2014 #43
Now hat Obama is purchasing the war for us Dems, it will forever and always be our fault. grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #44
Weird - It's like she thinks facts and historical context have no place in journalism. Beartracks Jun 2014 #46
No, they have deeper depths to plumb and I fear many on "our side" will give them a run for their TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #47
She is an idiot. ""The media still loves to beat up on who was responsible for the Iraq War, rhett o rick Jun 2014 #48
I disagree nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #50
looking at my empty coffee cup, wondering what in the HELL I was drinking!! niyad Jun 2014 #52
 

pretzel4gore

(8,146 posts)
53. right wing left wing...
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 01:50 PM
Jun 2014

privilege for the few (RW) versus needs of the many(LW)...the fascasti are totally aware of the underlying rotteness in the system-they use human nature against us/them... (after all, pre US civil war, how many young white guys noticed that THEY could not compete with unpaid, or slave, labour? Actually, quite a few did, but the 'hushtorians' are almost all rightwingers, so you never hear...)

Volaris

(10,260 posts)
23. facts are ALWAYS perfect, that's what differentiates them from opinions and OUTRIGHT LIES...
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 04:12 PM
Jun 2014

I won't call her what I SHOULD call her, given my quick perusal of the Rude Incident of the last 24 hrs.

G_j

(40,366 posts)
39. so now they change the meaning of "facts"
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 01:49 AM
Jun 2014

just like they've attempted to pervert so much of the language. Obscure and confuse, ..so freakin Orwellian.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
49. Perhaps we should call it "Luntzian"
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 01:30 PM
Jun 2014

As somebody quipped "1984 is a cautionary story, not a how-to manual." That's been repeated so often that I don't know who deserves credit for that.

Frank Luntz thought it was a how-to manual.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
33. That response is tactless.
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 05:34 PM
Jun 2014

I was thinking some more along the lines of..."Ms Miller is hear by encouraged to enthusiastically tamp 25 lbs of the Sahara in her rectum".

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
6. It's been a while since I had high school history
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 02:36 PM
Jun 2014

but I don't recall a chapter cautioning against being unhelpful towards notorious historical figures.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
7. The roaches are all coming out
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 02:36 PM
Jun 2014

In a just world every one of the fuckers would be rounded up and put on trial, convicted and sent to a supermax.

bluesbassman

(19,310 posts)
8. No Judith, the media doesn't even scratch the surface of who's responsible for the Iraq war...
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 02:42 PM
Jun 2014

However, that shiny thing above your bathroom sink, take a look at it and you'll see one of the war's great promoters.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
10. Her glory days:THREATS AND RESPONSES:THE IRAQIS; U.S.SAYS HUSSEIN INTENSIFIES QUEST FOR A-BOMB PARTS
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 02:47 PM
Jun 2014

By MICHAEL R. GORDON and JUDITH MILLER
Published: September 8, 2002

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/08/world/threats-responses-iraqis-us-says-hussein-intensifies-quest-for-bomb-parts.html


The co-conspirator does not want to talk about what a God damn tool she was....what a shock
she does not find that helpful.

Initech

(99,914 posts)
11. And we've seen the return of the original Iraq Pack!
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 02:54 PM
Jun 2014

There's the evil one - Dick Cheney, the drunk one - George W. Bush, the crazy one Donald Rumsfeld, and the "I'll Bomb Anyone" war mongerer John McCain. Performing their greatest hits again and again!

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
17. If you think for one minute, WilliamPitt,
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 03:26 PM
Jun 2014

That these scumbags can't out hypocrite that Judith Miller tripe, then you have not been paying attention. (Just kidding...I know you pay attention)

These scumbag's statements are the Marianas Trench of hypocritical statements. Just when I think they can't possibly sink lower than their last disgusting tirade, they treat us to an onslaught of something even more repulsive. Day after day. Maybe she should tell us exactly where the blame for the Iraq War should be placed.

Why won't they just go away?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
20. It was only a matter of time
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 03:46 PM
Jun 2014

You knew Judith Miller would come slithering out to opine on Iraq once the name Chalabi started getting some ink and air time. Did Miller favor us with her rendition of the guy in the baseball cap walking back and forth, pointing at the ground where those ol' debbil weapons of mass destruction had been laying around? That one always make me shake my head at the credulousness of certain overpaid media personalities.

Leith

(7,802 posts)
22. Oh, No - They Have LOTS More Hypocrisy
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 03:48 PM
Jun 2014

We're going to hear more and more of it. It will keep washing over us like a tsunami from an ocean-size septic tank. We can scream for mercy and clean the offal out of our ears, but another even larger wave will come at us yet again. DU is my life raft in this sea of despair.

Sorry - I'm feeling a little poetic this afternoon.

madinmaryland

(64,920 posts)
26. Have they no shame??
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 04:28 PM
Jun 2014

un-FUCKING-believable. I wouldn't even believe her if she handed me a ham sandwich and told me it was a ham sandwich.

ARGGHHH!!!

onecaliberal

(32,483 posts)
30. Who cares what this
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 04:52 PM
Jun 2014

Criminally wrong reicht wing corporate media prostitute has to say about anything? The people who listen and believe her also think the earth is flat.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
35. Let's bring back Condi to talk about mushroom clouds and the Chimp can say
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 07:52 PM
Jun 2014

"uranium from Africahhhhhhhh" again.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
38. 'Sometimes the facts you have aren't going to be perfect' ??
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 10:28 PM
Jun 2014

WTF does that mean exactly. Facts are facts and she deliberately published misinformation and fabrications.

Why is she a working journalist still?

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
40. This is like the world's worst acid flashback.
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 02:27 AM
Jun 2014

Was it not enough that they got away with murder, literally? You made your millions, you had your 15 minutes (which turned into an excruciating 8 years), and we all thought you rode off into the sunset (not in a Halliburton vehicle of course because those would fall apart).

It's like the adrenochrome scene in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. We've taken too much and now we're fucked. The walls are melting, there's gun fire and explosions going off all around us, Ann Coulter in her natural beast mode is dancing to satanic music, and the heads of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, Rice, etc are all floating around us, taunting and laughing.

Somebody stop this train. I want to get off.

Beartracks

(12,761 posts)
46. Weird - It's like she thinks facts and historical context have no place in journalism.
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 12:54 PM
Jun 2014

To be fair, she was criticizing "the media" and not necessarily "journalists", probably because, as we all know, there are precious few actual journalists in the media today.

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TheKentuckian

(24,943 posts)
47. No, they have deeper depths to plumb and I fear many on "our side" will give them a run for their
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 01:06 PM
Jun 2014

ill gotten money before it Is done because the short bus is firing up and the excuses are circulating.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
48. She is an idiot. ""The media still loves to beat up on who was responsible for the Iraq War,
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 01:16 PM
Jun 2014

and who was to blame for the current controversy...and that is not helpful," she said."

She is admitting that we all agree who was responsible and her only complaint is that the media is still beating them up. Idiot.

niyad

(112,434 posts)
52. looking at my empty coffee cup, wondering what in the HELL I was drinking!!
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 01:36 PM
Jun 2014

in a rational universe, we would not be hearing from her--or any of them. but then, we clearly do not live in a rational universe.

so the question is, do I need MORE of what was in that cup, or LESS?

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