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A HERETIC I AM

(24,363 posts)
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 04:46 PM Jun 2014

Co-Designer of the famous F-16 explains why the F-35 is a failure and a dumb idea (10 min vid)

Well worth the watch if you are interested in how stupid ideas become wasteful defense programs.



(Interviewer) "You've called the F-35 a 'Turkey'.


"Absolutely. It is a turkey. It's an inherently terrible airplane because it's an airplane built for a dumb idea."
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Co-Designer of the famous F-16 explains why the F-35 is a failure and a dumb idea (10 min vid) (Original Post) A HERETIC I AM Jun 2014 OP
Bookmarked for later viewing Kaleva Jun 2014 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM Jun 2014 #2
"The mission of the F-35 is for the US Congress to send money to Lockheed" IDemo Jun 2014 #3
This guys sound totally credible to me. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #4
The MIC just wants money, they don't care if it works. hobbit709 Jun 2014 #5
The F-16 is probably the best military plane we've ever built. Laelth Jun 2014 #6
For its mission, I agree A HERETIC I AM Jun 2014 #7
The A-10 is an excellent machine, agreed. n/t Laelth Jun 2014 #8
My neighbor and I were discussing the F-35 Savannahmann Jun 2014 #9

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Laelth

(32,017 posts)
6. The F-16 is probably the best military plane we've ever built.
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 07:32 AM
Jun 2014

I take this person's critique seriously. Thanks for the post.

-Laelth

A HERETIC I AM

(24,363 posts)
7. For its mission, I agree
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 09:04 AM
Jun 2014

We have built plenty of good aircraft in the past that, as he stated, were specific to a task. The A-10 Warthog is a perfect example.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
9. My neighbor and I were discussing the F-35
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 10:19 AM
Jun 2014

The example I used was the Swiss Army Knife. IMO there is no better multi-tool pocket knife on the planet. The original maker of the multi-function tool is the Swiss Army Knife. But that said, the Swiss Army Knife, as good as it is, does not replace a large toolbox.

The screwdriver on the multi-tool is pretty good, but you ignore it if you have access to a purpose built screwdriver. The same with the other functions. My Swiss Army Knife turns into a descent set of pliers. But they aren't as good as purpose built.

So something designed and built to do one thing will always be better than something designed to do multiple things. That is a given.

The A-10 is designed to go low and slow, turn tight at low speed and low altitude, and carry a lot of ordinance. The F-35 is designed to go fast, and carry a small amount of ordinance in hidden compartments. So it would take five F-35's to carry as much as one A-10 and that doesn't include the gun the aircraft is built around.

Remember, the A-10 was designed to replace the A-1. The Skyraider was a propeller driven airplane that we were using in Viet-Nam to attack ground targets. We discovered a long time ago that fast moving planes did not do the job as well as slower moving planes. The Marines had great success in Korea using a World War II plane, the F4U Corsair. This was the era know as the dawn of the Jet Age, when F-96 and Mig's battled for control of the skies. The F-86 was designed for that role however, so it did a pretty good job.

The F-15 was designed as a long range air to air interceptor. We now call such things Air Superiority. The F-22 was designed to upgrade and replace that aircraft. No problem, and Supposedly it does a good job. But the F-16 was a bomber with a secondary role as a fighter. The F-35 is a aircraft that can be made to do everything. I love my swiss army knife, and I'll never give it up. But I'm not throwing away my box o' tools because I have one.

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