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FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 05:47 PM Jun 2014

Cop shoots unarmed great-grandfather at family picnic, faces no consequences



HOMER, LA — Two police officers crashed a family cookout to harass a man who was not wanted or suspected of any crimes, then shot the man’s elderly father and allegedly planted a gun on him, according to numerous witnesses.

This incident took place in the town of Homer, home to only 3,800 residents. The poor, northern Louisiana town had made it a priority for its 8-cop roster to get “tough on drugs.”

In doing so, Homer Police officers were instructed to stop and question young black males without cause, and to go after certain individuals for targeted harassment. One of these specific targets was 38-year-old Shaun Monroe.

Shaun Monroe was not wanted for any crimes and had no warrants for his arrest. There was no tangible or legal reason that the police should have been harassing him, yet officers were told that if they ever saw him carrying a black bag, that they should stop and search him because the bag “probably contained drugs.” On the afternoon of Friday, February 20th, 2009, two officers intruded upon a family cookout for exactly that reason.

http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/bernard-monroe/#prettyPhoto
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Cop shoots unarmed great-grandfather at family picnic, faces no consequences (Original Post) FreakinDJ Jun 2014 OP
Henry and Cox resigned from the PD before the lawsuit was settled struggle4progress Jun 2014 #1
but man is still dead Liberal_in_LA Jun 2014 #18
But they were never charged in criminal court FreakinDJ Jun 2014 #31
This is from 2010 iandhr Jun 2014 #2
fuck tha police frylock Jun 2014 #3
That's the Jim Crow South santamargarita Jun 2014 #4
Yeah. Sometimes, I can't help but want to think about leaving(from TX, btw). nt AverageJoe90 Jun 2014 #9
I left a state like that. I'm much better now, I can't believe the difference. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2014 #26
Cops shooting minorities... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2014 #10
But it is worse here. I am sure there are pockets of racial violence in places like Penn. and McCamy Taylor Jun 2014 #14
"If you come down south, stick to the big cities." nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #23
I used to love rural areas, but no more. Rural areas in the US are pretty freaky now IMO. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2014 #27
What do you think has changed? Other than the virulency of far-right rhetoric, I guess? n/t nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #29
It's the far-right rhetoric to gets to me. I also do a lot of traveling into rural areas and I'm not RKP5637 Jun 2014 #33
I've felt a little of that, passing through rural parts of CA. Much more so inland than on the coast nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #34
Similar to where I felt it too. It seems to vary by locality a lot, just a small distance, sometimes RKP5637 Jun 2014 #38
Ain't that the truth. I'm in rural Montana right now, and it is light-years Nay Jun 2014 #43
I grew up in a small town and most of my family lived in really rural areas, RKP5637 Jun 2014 #46
My hubby would love to retire here, but no fucking way. The meanness, Nay Jun 2014 #47
...or any city. Fawke Em Jun 2014 #55
And suburban Miami-Dade County: Scurrilous Jun 2014 #19
I remember when Miami Gardens Drive was nothing but a strip of crack whore motels and crack Ghost in the Machine Jun 2014 #28
Lucky you! Scurrilous Jun 2014 #32
I remember Miami Lakes being built! It was the "Next Big Thing" or "Place to Live"! Were you there Ghost in the Machine Jun 2014 #37
Typical, plead for an ambulance and he calls for backup.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #5
I'm sure that's happened more than once already. eom TransitJohn Jun 2014 #7
Hence my use of the word "typical".... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #8
I'm sure Eric Holder will investigate.... HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #6
Actually, the DOJ went on site in Homer after this incident. They met with the msanthrope Jun 2014 #15
Keep up with what? HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #20
Having been shown up as to what the DOJ has done, I am sure you are upset.... msanthrope Jun 2014 #35
A 4 year old link shows me up? HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #36
Yes...a four year old link on a shooting that happened in 2009, showing the DOJ's msanthrope Jun 2014 #39
Oh, I see. HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #42
No...one month after the shooting, the DOJ was holding community meetings in Homer, as my msanthrope Jun 2014 #45
Keep up with what - A murderer walking Free FreakinDJ Jun 2014 #24
Who is apologizing for the cops? It's a shooting that never should have happened msanthrope Jun 2014 #40
Why post a 5 year old story? Beaverhausen Jun 2014 #11
See post number 6. Where is the Federal Gov't? McCamy Taylor Jun 2014 #13
See post 15. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author etherealtruth Jun 2014 #12
kick for justice Liberal_in_LA Jun 2014 #17
Screw the "Most cops are good people!" brigade. Seriously. Screw them for missing the point nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #21
it's all about hate, isn't it? hfojvt Jun 2014 #41
Yeah, silly me for being upset that they straight-up *murdered* a guy... nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #48
four years ago hfojvt Jun 2014 #50
If this were an isolated incident, you'd have a point. But it's not even close to that. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #51
You got it. cwydro Jun 2014 #57
Fuck kkkops. ~nt~ b.durruti Jun 2014 #22
Right now I can't disagree with you. Fuck authority, period. Power, all power, corrupts. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #25
This ggrandfather of five takes umbrage indepat Jun 2014 #30
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #44
Why would a town of 3,800 need 8 cops? PotatoChip Jun 2014 #49
You sure have a lot of anti-cop threads going... cwydro Jun 2014 #52
You sure have a lot of "Fellow Officers" shooting UNARMED Citizens FreakinDJ Jun 2014 #54
I'm not a cop, so not my "fellow officers." nt cwydro Jun 2014 #56
I firmly believe the police planted that gun. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #53
 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
31. But they were never charged in criminal court
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 10:12 PM
Jun 2014

Since when does this come under the context of "Police Work"

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
14. But it is worse here. I am sure there are pockets of racial violence in places like Penn. and
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 05:48 PM
Jun 2014

Michigan that are almost as bad, but the south (where I have lived my whole life so I know of what I write) is full of this crap. Our urban areas like Austin and Atlanta are like sanctuary islands in a sea of insanity. If you come down south, stick to the big cities.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
23. "If you come down south, stick to the big cities."
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 07:22 PM
Jun 2014

Excellent advice for any of us. Regardless of race, gender or sexuality.

RKP5637

(67,030 posts)
33. It's the far-right rhetoric to gets to me. I also do a lot of traveling into rural areas and I'm not
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 10:44 PM
Jun 2014

at all as comfortable as I was years ago.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
34. I've felt a little of that, passing through rural parts of CA. Much more so inland than on the coast
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 10:58 PM
Jun 2014

Most of inland Cali, in fact, is bright red, and voted overwhelmingly for Prop. 8. Note I said most, not all.

RKP5637

(67,030 posts)
38. Similar to where I felt it too. It seems to vary by locality a lot, just a small distance, sometimes
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 08:10 AM
Jun 2014

Some think CA is all liberal, I don't think they have ever been around CA much. I mentioned that to one of my friends once, they had been to San Francisco and Marin county, and were just determined to think all of CA was similar. I found along the coast, for the most part, it was rather liberal, but go inland much in some areas and sometimes that changes, a lot. Some people think ALL of the southeast of the US, for example, is totally red neck, but I've been/lived in some other parts of the US that are worse IMO.

I think a lot of it is caused by the hatred spewed by some MSM 7x24. I never felt it as strongly as a kid, but back then, for the most part, most MSM was rather bland. If one has the propensity now to want hatred and RW rhetoric, all they need to is look for it on radio/tv/internet and there it is, plenty to reinforce their hatred of whatever.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
43. Ain't that the truth. I'm in rural Montana right now, and it is light-years
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 11:18 AM
Jun 2014

away from how it was 30 years ago. Jesus. The Fox talking points, the hostility, obnoxiousness, is very evident among a population that, 30 years ago, actually knew how to interact with neighbors with civility. It's appalling.

RKP5637

(67,030 posts)
46. I grew up in a small town and most of my family lived in really rural areas,
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 11:46 AM
Jun 2014

some up in the northeast mountains miles from most people and in small villages. We all got along, I never heard the hatefulness one hears today. Friends, neighbors, family, relationships, we all sort of got along. Today, people seem to come armed with hatefulness and hostilities for no reason at all. It is deplorable what hate-jock MSM and other sources have done to the US. Most people seem to wear hatred on their shoulder it seems. When I grew older, I always wanted to retire to a rural area, but not anymore. There is just too much quirkiness in many rural areas today IMO.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
47. My hubby would love to retire here, but no fucking way. The meanness,
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 02:48 PM
Jun 2014

petty squabbles, drunks, Fox spouters, sorry. It ain't ever gonna happen unless he just goes by himself.

We don't live in a blue state, but damn, at least there's enough ppl in the city so you don't feel totally surrounded, plus you get the decent amenities -- big libraries, excellent doctors, decent law enforcement (one town near our place in MT is about to have its total police force removed and replaced by staties because it is so corrupt!), YMCAs, etc.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
55. ...or any city.
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 11:07 PM
Jun 2014

I live in a medium-sized Southern city and it's blue.

In fact, despite Tennessee's deep red rural areas and gerrymandered districts, all our major cities are blue.

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
19. And suburban Miami-Dade County:
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 06:42 PM
Jun 2014
Meet Miami Gardens, The Stop-And-Frisk Capital of America

<snip>

"New York's arrest-free search policies are well known. Less well known is the Florida city that's used quotas to stop and frisk 11-year-old boys and centenarian retirees—56,922 people in all, half the population. A new investigation finds how deep Miami Gardens' excesses really go."

<snip>

"The city's scandal, which first came to light last year when the Miami Herald reported on one black man who had been stopped 250 times, including 62 times at the same convenience store, has already brought down a police chief. But no one knew the complete depth of the problem until now.

Between 2008 and last year, Miami Gardens police officers performed 99,980 "field contact" reports in which innocent people "were stopped, written up and often identified as 'suspicious'" without being arrested or held. Nearly 57,000 of those included body searches. The neighboring city of Miami, which has a population four times that of Miami Gardens, recorded 3,753 stops in that same time. The purpose of the city's zeal, Brennan says, was "to control the population... and gather data."

Who's getting stopped? Virtually everyone and anyone. But two Miami Gardens police officers who blew the whistle to Fusion said specific groups were actively being targeted in order to make astronomical quotas. "The target to stop in Miami Gardens: he wants all black males stopped between the ages of 15 and 30 years old," the cop said of his supervisor."

http://gawker.com/meet-miami-gardens-the-stop-and-frisk-capital-of-ameri-1583348024

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
28. I remember when Miami Gardens Drive was nothing but a strip of crack whore motels and crack
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 09:03 PM
Jun 2014

dealers hanging out in front of the pawn shops, liquor stores and check cashing stores. I lived right next to Miami Gardens, in Miami Springs.. right across the street from the Miami International Airport. I could literally throw a rock from my diveway and hit a plane inside the fence at the airport! I've lived all over Dade County and parts of Broward at one time or another. Glad to be out of there and up in the Foothillls of the Great Smoky Mountains now!

Peace,

Ghost

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
37. I remember Miami Lakes being built! It was the "Next Big Thing" or "Place to Live"! Were you there
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 12:49 AM
Jun 2014

in the 80's when it was first built?? They had the little shopping plaza with the "Steve's Pizza" and I think a "Chic-fil-a"? Don Shula and Bob Griese had bought places in Miami Lakes when the whole place was still under construction. Mercury Morris got busted for selling cocaine. Bob Kuechenberg had retired and was running a small furniture shop in a warehouse off of Ives Dairy Road. He runs a construction supply business in Ft. Lauderdale now. Larry Csonzka, Jim Kiick, Garo Yepremian and Larry Seiple were family friends. I remember when Garo opened a tie shop in the Midway Mall (later renamed The Mall of the Americas) right off of Flagler Street and the Palmetto Expressway (Hwy 826).

Lots of old memories from back then...

Peace,

Ghost


 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
5. Typical, plead for an ambulance and he calls for backup....
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 06:56 PM
Jun 2014

I'm waiting for a case where the cops decide to just kill EVERYONE so there's no witnesses.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
8. Hence my use of the word "typical"....
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 08:04 PM
Jun 2014

One of these days the public is going to give these thugs a REASON to call for backup.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
6. I'm sure Eric Holder will investigate....
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 07:05 PM
Jun 2014

... when he gets around to it. We just have to understand that he's a busy man, and pot-smoking cancer grannies pose a far greater risk than an out of control, abusive, and militarized police force.

<sarcasm> , for the benefit of habitual alerters.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
15. Actually, the DOJ went on site in Homer after this incident. They met with the
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 06:31 PM
Jun 2014

community and started investigating graft and corruption.....

http://commonwealthfreemoralsociety.wordpress.com/about/bernard-monroe-homer-louisiana/


http://www.justice.gov/usao/law/news/wdla20130212.html

Lots of things have happened as a result of this shooting. You should keep up.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
20. Keep up with what?
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 06:51 PM
Jun 2014

Your first link is a 4 year old story about the local investigation. Has Holder done anything in the ensuing 4 years? What, pray tell, are the "lots of things have happened"?

Your second link has no relationship with the shooting whatsoever, its about theft in the town housing authority. Do you even read your own links?

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
35. Having been shown up as to what the DOJ has done, I am sure you are upset....
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 11:12 PM
Jun 2014

Since you've already been proven demonstrably incorrect...it is now up to you to prove your claims.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
36. A 4 year old link shows me up?
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 12:45 AM
Jun 2014

LOL! Damn, I'm impressed on your keeping up by a 4 year old link. Whats next? A road map of Moscow? There's story after story about rogue cops... dropping flash grenades in baby cribs, shooting 93 year old ladies... a good question is Where is Holder? And a 4 year old link that doesn't mention Holder is supposed to "show me up"? Thanks for the laugh, moonbeam.

And BTW, please explain how a link to a story about stealing from the housing authority has anything to do with the shooting. This will be another gem, I'm sure <rolleyes>

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
39. Yes...a four year old link on a shooting that happened in 2009, showing the DOJ's
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 09:30 AM
Jun 2014

efforts in Homer and investigations into that shooting and other incidents of racial violence. Another link showing you the resulting investigation into the conditions that perpetuate racial violence.

Yeah....you asked where Holder was. Well...the DOJ came to Homer.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
42. Oh, I see.
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 11:14 AM
Jun 2014

Several years after the shooting, the DOJ came to Homer and investigated theft at the housing authority. Obviously Holder is really on the ball. Why, the next thing he'll do is clamp down on voter suppression by arresting jaywalkers.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
45. No...one month after the shooting, the DOJ was holding community meetings in Homer, as my
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 11:42 AM
Jun 2014

link indicates. Further, the DOJ marched with Rev. Sharpton through Homer, and started an FBI investigation.

Tim Cox's grand jury refused to indict him, although the LA state and FBI indicated that this was not a justifiable shoot.

The DOJ didn't leave Homer....they stayed, investigating graft and corruption. The police force was disbanded. SPLC got a settlement from the town for the family. Justice? Hardly....but to say that Eric Holder did nothing is incorrect.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
24. Keep up with what - A murderer walking Free
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 08:02 PM
Jun 2014

Because some where during all the Killer Cop apologizing here some one missed that point - and it wasn't me

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
40. Who is apologizing for the cops? It's a shooting that never should have happened
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 09:34 AM
Jun 2014

and LA state should have prosecuted Tim Cox. Mills belongs behind bars.

Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
21. Screw the "Most cops are good people!" brigade. Seriously. Screw them for missing the point
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 06:59 PM
Jun 2014

and making it all about imaginary hurt feelings.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
41. it's all about hate, isn't it?
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 10:26 AM
Jun 2014

Hate the cops.
Hate people who support cops.
Hate people who support the people who support cops.

Find every story, even a four year old one that can be told to put a cop in a bad light. Spin the story, tell the story, use the story to try to whip up hatred for cops. Then throw some hatred at the people who refuse to drink the haterade.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
50. four years ago
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 04:05 PM
Jun 2014

and is murder really what happened, or is that how somebody is telling the story? Somebody who wants people to hate cops.

Even if it was murder, the FBI tells me there is a murder in the US every 35.4 minutes (or was in 2012). So out of about 59,000 murders in the last four years, THIS is the one to get upset about now and to say "fuck the people who do the same job as this murderer" about?

Here's a plumber who killed four people (35 years ago) http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2199&dat=19790806&id=M6UyAAAAIBAJ&sjid=bucFAAAAIBAJ&pg=6516,1086037

Should we all say "fuck the plumbers"?

Here's one who killed somebody presumably by being incompetent.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9209302/Plumber-jailed-after-boiler-killed-millionaires-daughter.html

Oh, and for more statistics. In 2011, 72 police officers were murdered and 54,774 officers were assaulted - 14,578 with injury.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
51. If this were an isolated incident, you'd have a point. But it's not even close to that.
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 04:12 PM
Jun 2014

"Is murder really what happened"? They shot an unarmed grandfather. Does the fact he was black somehow make him seem less innocent than otherwise?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
57. You got it.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:08 PM
Jun 2014

This guy just has a hard on for cops..

Wonder who he calls when robbed, burglarized?

Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
49. Why would a town of 3,800 need 8 cops?
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 03:41 PM
Jun 2014

Sounds like they all had too much time on their hands.

Though nothing will bring their father back, I hope the family received some type of justice in the years since this happened.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
52. You sure have a lot of anti-cop threads going...
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 05:12 PM
Jun 2014

Most of them incidents from some years ago.

Recently wrongfully arrested? Wife leave you for a cop?

Certainly a personal little vendetta you got going here.

Just curious.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
54. You sure have a lot of "Fellow Officers" shooting UNARMED Citizens
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 09:22 PM
Jun 2014

13yr old boys - mentally impaired little Girls

Seems Cops have no shame

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