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Knightraven

(268 posts)
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 03:53 AM Jun 2014

Anyone else following this?

I have never seen anything like this, and I have been going back and forth along the border since I was 20 years old!

From A Stream To A Flood: Migrant Kids Overwhelm U.S. Border Agents

Like a marathoner at the end of a grueling race, 16-year-old Jorge Romero sits on the grass, exhausted. A county constable has detained him about a hundred yards from the Rio Grande.

For a month, Romero traveled from El Salvador through Mexico to Texas, avoiding predatory police and gangs, warding off mosquitoes and hunger.

Migrants like Romero are creating a humanitarian crisis for federal border authorities. Record numbers of Central American immigrants are crossing the Rio Grande into South Texas, overwhelming the Border Patrol's limited holding facilities.

Even in a region accustomed to immigrant surges, no one has seen anything like this before.

Romero looks like he's on the verge of tears as he explains how he waded across the international river at the tip of Texas, and then wandered for a day looking for a border officer to surrender to.
http://www.npr.org/2014/06/20/323657817/from-a-stream-to-a-flood-migrant-kids-overwhelm-u-s-border-agents
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Anyone else following this? (Original Post) Knightraven Jun 2014 OP
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #1
De nada Knightraven Jun 2014 #2
If this were happening any where else we would call them refugees. NT alfie Jun 2014 #3
I just told my friend that they are refugees. Little Star Jun 2014 #12
I have been. It is quite surreal to me. Live and Learn Jun 2014 #4
The way it sounds is that they are coming through via Texas. Knightraven Jun 2014 #5
I don't think they really know what to do with them. Live and Learn Jun 2014 #6
Any idea why this is happening? Knightraven Jun 2014 #7
No, nothing that seems valid or logical, at this point. nt Live and Learn Jun 2014 #8
A lot of military bases are not being used for military purposes, that's been the case for years. freshwest Jun 2014 #11
Some news about this from Tucson, AZ. Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2014 #9
Yes sir. Roger that "following" littlemissmartypants Jun 2014 #10

Uncle Joe

(58,355 posts)
1. Kicked and recommended.
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 03:59 AM
Jun 2014

Thanks for the thread, Knightraven.

P.S. Judi Lynn has several threads over in the Good Reads Forum related to this subject, here's one of them.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/101695876

Why The World Should Care About The War Against Guatemalan Women

Jorge Velásquez refuses to allow his daughter’s death to become “another murder statistic.”

Claudina Isabel Velásquez was raped, shot in the head, and dumped in an alley in Guatemala City in 2005, one of 665 women killed in Guatemala that year. Her case, like nearly all of the others, was never solved. But almost a decade after her death, Jorge’s constant fight to keep Claudina’s case open has made her a symbol for increasing violence against Guatemalan women and girls. It’s the same violence that’s spurring more and more unaccompanied young girls to leave Guatemala and attempt to cross the U.S. border.

Last year, 759 women were murdered in Guatemala, a 7 percent increase from the year before. A terrible new report divides the deaths into causes: 522 deaths from firearms, 70 from stabbings, 156 from asphyxiation, 11 from decapitation or dismemberment.



There is more on the link.



Knightraven

(268 posts)
2. De nada
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 04:02 AM
Jun 2014

This is a thing to me due to the way I live. Both sides of the border is home to me. And as I said, I have not seen anything like this before.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
4. I have been. It is quite surreal to me.
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 04:20 AM
Jun 2014

Hard to imagine anyone being desperate enough to send their children across countries alone. Especially, when the destination is here and Texas or Arizona in particular.

i can't imagine the desperation leading to such actions myself. Then again, I work with many immigrants and some of those, especially from Cambodia and Vietnam tell such horror that I am sure any parent would send their children anywhere they thought was safer even if they couldn't go along.

As bad as it can seem here sometimes, at least it isn't that bad yet. Of course, due to us, some Iraqi parents are undoubtedly feeling those pressures as we post.

Knightraven

(268 posts)
5. The way it sounds is that they are coming through via Texas.
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 04:23 AM
Jun 2014

Then they are getting shipped to Arizona. I also herd they will be sending them to military bases. Why would the seem kids to military base, I don't know. This whole thing is bizarre.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
6. I don't think they really know what to do with them.
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 04:28 AM
Jun 2014

It is very much an unprecedented and confusing situation.

Knightraven

(268 posts)
7. Any idea why this is happening?
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 04:37 AM
Jun 2014

I have heard all kind of "reasons" but nothing has been really pin pointed. I even heard some guy on one of the news shows say it was Obama's fault. I kid you not. He was serious!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
11. A lot of military bases are not being used for military purposes, that's been the case for years.
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 07:34 AM
Jun 2014

But they have facilities for people to live and some states are reducing all public housing and social services. They are being utilized as emergency housing now and as the funding is federal, the states still escape paying for the care of people there.

I agree with those who say, despite some negative coverage of alleged gang members, that this is a flood of those who are as desperate as any person on a sinking ship.

The horrible number of women and girls murdered, and otherwise abused is part of the daily war on women worldwide, that seems to have no end in sight. The UN has rightly called many aspects of the treatment of females crimes against humanity but some have decided that females don't meet their standards of being human.

Which says quite a bit about them. And I don't think the way that the boys are forced into gangs is going to liberate them, either.

OTOH, these acts are part of open warfare, to rob people in a region of their rights and drive people off land, implemented by criminal gangs who do the same thing. Although they are supposedly only intending to make money off all this, I don't see much diference ikn actions done than the Taliban, ISIL or Boko Harum.

These are crimes commited for the purpose of enriching the actors and controlling resources, either by depopulation through terror, or just outright slaughter. I think the religion and ideology are added to excuse the profit from warfare.

I think it would help us in the USA to understand this is what we will face if we don't confront the effects of inequality in a way that lifts up all of us. If society does not do that, people will find ways to survive such as being in gangs. And by this, I call the groups we hear about in the news, nothing but gangsters.


Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
9. Some news about this from Tucson, AZ.
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 06:50 AM
Jun 2014
5 hours 14 minutes ago by Nathan O'Neal
Gov. Brewer speaks out on migrant children crisis

TUCSON - State leaders in Arizona, Texas and Oklahoma lobbed harsh criticism at the federal government's handling of the influx of immigrant children fleeing from Central America.

White House officials cite poverty and violence as contributing factors behind the surge in immigrant children showing up in the United States.

State leaders voiced their criticism of the way the Obama Administration has handled the humanitarian crisis.

While the White House plans to inject millions of dollars into Central American countries to try and stem the flow of illegal immigration, some border states are taking matters into their own hands.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry ordered a surge of patrols along the border by its Department of Public Safety with funding of up to $1.3 million per week.

Read more @ http://www.kvoa.com/news/gov-brewer-speaks-out-on-migrant-children-crisis/

Jun 19, 2014 9:17 PM by Lupita Murillo
Boycott Mexico over the migrant children crisis?

TUCSON - The crisis of unaccompanied minors from Central America is making national headlines.
Wednesday night, on the O'Reilly Factor the television host and political commentator called on Americans to boycott Mexico.

O'Rilley says the Marine held in a Mexican jail for taking weapons across the border and, Mexico not enforcing its immigration laws and letting the children cross into the U.S. are his reasons for supporting a boycott.

Krista Steffen just got back from Rocky Point where she owns a home with her mother. She has no intentions of boycotting Mexico. "I think we all tend to go towards the defenseless, but I just don't think you should boycott any country based on somebody's feelings on an issue."

Felipe Garcia of Visit Tucson believes it would be an economic disaster if there was a boycott. "I think there are problems that need to be fixed in Mexico, immigration law and enforcement of immigration law, but aside from that fact I don't think it's a solution to call for a boycott."

Read more @ http://www.kvoa.com/news/boycott-mexico-/


Jun 12, 2014 10:06 PM by Lupita Murillo
Shelter for migrant children opening soon in Tucson

TUCSON - A non-profit group hired to house unaccompanied migrant children will move into a former college student house unit near downtown Tucson as early as next week.

Southwest Key will run the shelter in Ward 3.

It sits on seven acres and has a lot of amenities such as a heated swimming pool, Wi-Fi and spacious bedrooms.

Southwest Key will be running the facility. Currently, they have 17 shelters for unaccompanied children in cities all along the U.S.Mexico Border. The non-profit reports a budget of more than $150 million a year, most of that comes from federal government contracts.

"I think as a community we need to partner with the federal government to make sure that an appropriate site is found," says Carlos Portillo, who owns a Mexican restaurant near the Downtown area.

Read more @ http://www.kvoa.com/news/housing-migrant-children/
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