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superpatriotman

(6,247 posts)
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 02:17 PM Jun 2014

What is a slur? Redskins case forces us to decide (AP)

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_REDSKINS_WHATS_A_SLUR?SITE=CATOR&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-06-21-12-31-49

By JESSE WASHINGTON
AP National Writer


Something is happening just beneath the fight over the name of a certain Washington, D.C., pro football team: America is working through the process of determining what is - or is not - racially offensive.

What is a slur, and who gets to decide? How many people must be offended to tip the scales? Why should some be forced to sacrifice their traditions out of respect for others?


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A rapidly diversifying nation has more need than ever to figure out what is racially offensive.

Some offenses are undeniable: NBA owner Donald Sterling earned universal condemnation for asking his mistress not to bring black people to his games.

Yet in an era of blunt and sometimes coarse online discussion and political debate, Americans continue to disagree about the nature of calling Hispanics who cross the border without documents "illegals," or the propriety of images that depict President Barack Obama as a "witch doctor."

And it took years of discussion to win makeovers for Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben, the stereotypical black faces used to sell syrup and rice.


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What is a slur? Redskins case forces us to decide (AP) (Original Post) superpatriotman Jun 2014 OP
This is interesting in light of other current discussion here. frazzled Jun 2014 #1
A simple question Cirque du So-What Jun 2014 #2

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
1. This is interesting in light of other current discussion here.
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 02:38 PM
Jun 2014

In general, I'd have to say that when someone tells you something you say or name is offensive to them, and this is a fairly widespread belief among the people who feel offended, you have to listen. And you probably need to do something about it.

This isn't a case for analysis: in other words, no historical, linguistic, or even "constitutional" appeals to "individual freedom" are appropriate here. It's not your argument. If a group—not an individual or two but a significant number of the named population—feels offended, we need to change up the language. Because that is how we roll as liberals: we are sensitive to the needs of minority or oppressed or disenfranchised people. And when they are telling you a term like "Redskins" makes them uncomfortable, then it does. And it's best to change it. (Same for the "c" word, boyz. You don't get to decide whether it's offensive or not; the people who are offended do.)

Cirque du So-What

(25,931 posts)
2. A simple question
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 02:38 PM
Jun 2014

Was the epithet 'redskins' ever used affectionately toward native Americans? The answer *should* put an end to all further discussion, but instead we see apologists contriving all manner of excuses for continued use of a term that was coined during an American genocidal frenzy.

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