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grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 03:01 AM Jun 2014

I hope everyone understands that once Obama starts Iraq War III, everything that

transpires in the future, or has ever transpired in the past, regarding the Middle East, will forever and always be blamed on Obama and us Democrats.

I hope he's not foolish enough to pursue this fools errand.

"Next: president Obama's war on terror in the Middle East" - David Gregory, meet the Press, 6/22/2014

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I hope everyone understands that once Obama starts Iraq War III, everything that (Original Post) grahamhgreen Jun 2014 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author stevenleser Jun 2014 #1
Iraq warIII if you had read the post /nt Dragonfli Jun 2014 #2
Reading is fundamental. my bad. Deleting. nt stevenleser Jun 2014 #29
There is no doubt ... NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #3
My sentiments, exactly! Suich Jun 2014 #5
Yeah, quoting rw mediawhore David Gregory as news source lets us know how the OP is getting Cha Jun 2014 #6
Nice! ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #16
Impeach Obama before he warmongers again! Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2014 #28
+100000 Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #42
You left out forcing them to take free Obama cellphones. The best part of our diabolical plan! freshwest Jul 2014 #46
Your concern is noted. nt Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #4
I hate to be perceived as a nit-picker ... NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #7
You're not a nit-picker, Nance... pinboy3niner Jun 2014 #8
Oh noes!!!!! NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #9
... pinboy3niner Jun 2014 #10
I stand chastized ... NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #11
Batard! pinboy3niner Jun 2014 #12
Careful, my friend ... NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #13
Those sons of botches! pinboy3niner Jun 2014 #14
A batch of batards! greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #27
Twitchy finger DOWN. DOWN I TELL YOU!!!!!! nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #35
ALERTING!!! pinboy3niner Jun 2014 #36
blushes nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #38
DUzy!! KamaAina Jun 2014 #41
Oops Obama, lol... doesn't stop one more dead Iraqi in the name of big oil, tho... grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #21
Give it a rest. We can all sing WhiteTara Jun 2014 #30
ME give it a rest? Shia and Sunni have been fighting for 1400 years. Go ahead, jump right in, lol! grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #31
What the fuck are you talking about? longship Jun 2014 #15
That is not all. morningfog Jun 2014 #17
We will see. longship Jun 2014 #23
As I recall, we prevented him from jumping into war with Syria, on the same side as ISIL. grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #32
oh, no no no. we all got played by the chess master on that one. frylock Jun 2014 #40
I reject both of your narratives. longship Jun 2014 #43
You don't respect the man enough to spell his name right. Another idiotic post. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2014 #18
As you suggest, perhaps he doesn't respect him at all. I refuse to capitalize the name "bush" Victor_c3 Jun 2014 #20
And that's the problem, isn't it? We had reasons to dislike Dumbya and to disrespect him. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2014 #25
I like the name "Operation Desert Nam" Victor_c3 Jun 2014 #19
I'm glad you're here, Victor_c3 pinboy3niner Jun 2014 #22
Thanks for that Victor_c3 Jun 2014 #45
Fitting name! In my view, it is a fool's errand to engage ourselves in the 1400 year war between the grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #33
Ah welcome home nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #39
david gregory, the least reliable source for news. spanone Jun 2014 #24
But a major spinner of propaganda... It's now "Obama's war on terror"... & I don't think he uses grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #34
like that wasn't already the case... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #26
Any Source to Create a Storm, eh? MineralMan Jun 2014 #37
Wow. I read the op differently i.e. crim son Jun 2014 #44

Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
3. There is no doubt ...
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 03:18 AM
Jun 2014

... that Obama intends to start Iraq War III - right after he slashes social security, confiscates everyone's guns, rounds up Christians and sends them to FEMA re-education camps, and publicly admits that he is a secret Muslin, born and raised in Kenya.

Quoting David Gregory - the last bastion of truth in journalism - was a nice touch.

Cha

(297,137 posts)
6. Yeah, quoting rw mediawhore David Gregory as news source lets us know how the OP is getting
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:07 AM
Jun 2014

their "FEAR". M$M CorporateMedia Obama!

"... will forever and always be blamed on Obama and us Democrats." Rofl

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
7. I hate to be perceived as a nit-picker ...
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:30 AM
Jun 2014

... but I believe the President's name is ObaMa - not ObaNa.

And it should have read "fool's errand" (singular) or "fools' errand (plural), not "fools errand".

So points off for grammar and spelling - but extra points for holding out David Gregory as a quotable news source.



NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
11. I stand chastized ...
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 05:21 AM
Jun 2014

... alone in my soupless misery - and I dare not even ask if there is any bread available to accompany my meal of non-soup.


 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
21. Oops Obama, lol... doesn't stop one more dead Iraqi in the name of big oil, tho...
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 08:16 AM
Jun 2014

How many troops before you call it a fool's errand?

And who's gonna pay for this continuing debacle?

WhiteTara

(29,703 posts)
30. Give it a rest. We can all sing
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 10:11 AM
Jun 2014

mea culpa if you should be right, but don't hold your breath...that would be a fool's errand.

 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
31. ME give it a rest? Shia and Sunni have been fighting for 1400 years. Go ahead, jump right in, lol!
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:16 PM
Jun 2014

longship

(40,416 posts)
15. What the fuck are you talking about?
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 06:52 AM
Jun 2014

Who is saying that Obama is starting Iraq War III?

Is that really correct? Or, are people just projecting their fears?

I think the latter.

People need to relax. President Obama is not going to be going to put troops back into Iraq. He sent a couple hundred troops to protect our embassy. That's all. Anybody who says otherwise is going beyond the current data.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
17. That is not all.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 07:25 AM
Jun 2014

"He sent a couple hundred troops to protect our embassy. That's all."

He is sending an additional "up to 300" as military advisers. That 300 is in addition to the couple hundred to protect the embassy and with a different mission than protecting the embassy.

Obama has also said the US is prepared to carry out "targeted" military actions.

longship

(40,416 posts)
23. We will see.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 08:33 AM
Jun 2014

I am far from an Obama apologist. But we will soon undoubtedly see the difference between what people will say that Obama will do and what Obama will actually do. He is, in spite of what some think here, not Dick Cheney.

I have much to argue against President Obama but, so far, his foreign policy has been keep peace, at least as far as can be done, and as least as far as the situations he has been handed.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
40. oh, no no no. we all got played by the chess master on that one.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 02:50 PM
Jun 2014

of course, David Cameron also got played, if you want to believe that narrative.

longship

(40,416 posts)
43. I reject both of your narratives.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 03:01 PM
Jun 2014

Which are either naive or based on something other than the facts.

Apparently we are going to be soon embroiled in a steaming hot stew in Iraq because President Obama sends 300 troops to protect the embassy there. What do you expect him to do?

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
19. I like the name "Operation Desert Nam"
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 07:58 AM
Jun 2014

the first war in 1991 would have been "Operation Desert Nam"

The second war started in 2003 would be "Operation Desert Nam II"

So the third war would be "Operation Desert Nam III"

Silly names help to make the wars more entertaining. As a former grunt who served in iRaq (see, another play on the name - making it similar to iPod) I can tell you just how much fun the war over there was

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
22. I'm glad you're here, Victor_c3
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 08:22 AM
Jun 2014

The testimony and insight from you and others who were there is invaluable. It's really helpful to hear from you even as you work through your own war trauma.

I remember when Desert Shield began. I was working at the the Vietnam Veterans' Memorial in D.C. and there were antiwar protests there. Not right at the Wall, but nearby as the memorial is treated as sacred ground and not a place for for politics.

I'd processed my VN War experience more than once, but Desert Shield/Storm drove me back into the psychologist's office at the Vet Center. It was a big trigger!

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
45. Thanks for that
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 04:45 PM
Jun 2014

In a large way I look up to you Vietnam guys.

I'm not trying to discount either my experiences or yours, but most Vietnam era guys had a double whammy. Many Vietnam era guys were drafted and then sent to a shitty war while I volunteered for the Army and later found myself sent to a shitty war.

Anyways, it's always good to see you around as well. Vets need to talk about their war experiences to make sure people like me aren't so easily suckered into conflicts like Iraq in the future. I joined the Army after watching events in the late 90s unfold in the Balkans during my teenage years and I joined in 1997 believing that we had learned our lessons from previous conflicts. I joined to be a part of a mission like that in the Balkans to stop a genocide. I truly wanted to make a difference. Instead I found myself in Iraq. To quote a favorite author of mine (Kurt Vonnegut) in reference to a bunch of shitty occurrences a character faced in one of his books, "so it goes".

It's a shame that both of us are in a position to understand or get what the other is feeling when it comes to war experiences. However, at the same time, it's nice to know I'm not alone.

I certainly hope that my children or grandchildren never have to face combat. I need to and will work to that end.



 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
33. Fitting name! In my view, it is a fool's errand to engage ourselves in the 1400 year war between the
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:20 PM
Jun 2014

Sunni & the Shia.... But I wasn't there.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
39. Ah welcome home
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:33 PM
Jun 2014

I think we will try to stop Iraq-Nam III from starting, but given none listens to the people, I don't make any promises.

 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
34. But a major spinner of propaganda... It's now "Obama's war on terror"... & I don't think he uses
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:22 PM
Jun 2014

that terminology. As I recall he has spoken our against it.

crim son

(27,464 posts)
44. Wow. I read the op differently i.e.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:54 PM
Jun 2014

quoting Gregory is evidence that not only will Obama be blamed, he is already being blamed. I don't find this suggestion either entirely false or terribly inflammatory; rather, it sounds like truth.

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