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resume shipment of Apaches to Egypt one day after Egypt sentences 3 journalists to 15 years, and jails and kills thousands for their thoughts.
yeah, way to go...
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)anymore in the Middle East and Africa, and neither should the US. Most of those countries are always going to be ruled by oppressive assholes and an oppressive religion, but we can still do business with them, and we should when it fits our interests (like helping Egypt fight terrorists). Cold eyed realism is the way to go.
cali
(114,904 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)interests to work with whatever government they have. If we don't maintain influence there, other countries will step in (Russia), and then we will have another Syria situation, because if there's one country that's even worse for propping up dictators and ignoring the oppressed masses and journalists, it's Russia. Pick your poison. I'd rather the US sell some apaches.
mylye2222
(2,992 posts)The real problem in those countries is that their religion has not be reformed. And they have no real idea of what democracy is. So they goes on electing fucking dictators....;
If you talk to them, what are their real goals? Emigrate! yes!
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)And Tomahawk missiles as well.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)mylye2222
(2,992 posts)???
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)LexVegas
(6,059 posts)Kerry does not make this decision.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)karynnj
(59,501 posts)The sentence was today - and Kerry was there yesterday. As to the helicopters, that is not a Kerry decision.
Here is Kerry's comment on the sentences:
SECRETARY KERRY: Well Andrea, thats very, very fair question, and its an appropriate one today. When I heard about that verdict today, I was so concerned about it and, frankly, disappointed in it that I immediately picked up the telephone and I talked to the foreign minister of Egypt and I registered our serious displeasure at this kind of verdict under the circumstances of where we find ourselves today. Now, todays conviction is obviously its a chilling and draconian sentence. And its deeply disturbing to see in the midst of Egypts transition. It simply cannot stand if Egypt is going to be able to move forward in the way that Egypt needs to move forward, in order to respond to the extraordinary aspirations of those young people who twice came in to Tahrir Square in order to demand a responsive government.
So the success of Egypt going forward will depend on the protection of universal human rights, and it will depend on a real commitment to embracing the hopes of the people there that theyre going to see a judicial system that is responsive and modern and not one trapped in ideology or in this kind of extreme decision.
So todays verdict flies in the face of the essential ingredients of a civil society and a free press and rule of law. And the president President al-Sisi and I discussed this yesterday. We discussed these very cases, and I think it is going to be critical in terms of the objectives of his presidency for him to move quickly to try to address the international concerns that exist with respect to this kind of a decision.
From the press availability today - http://www.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2014/06/228327.htm