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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDick Cheney calls Rand Paul an "isolationist".
And accuses him of being out of touch and said our involvement in that part of the world is "essential".
Rand Paul had stated how we were wrong to invade Iraq. There were no WMDs. "Democracy" did not take hold as they claimed. The war was not over in 2005, as they had stated.
Furthermore, Paul said he did not blame President Obama for what was going on in Iraq at the present time.
I have a suspicion that more Republicans agree with Rand Paul than the Party leaders may think?
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)I don't get it. People treat him like some sort of prophet, I guess because of his dad.
kentuck
(111,051 posts)I think he is bringing the Republican Party somewhat back to the center. Still, his policies are too extreme for the average Democrat. He could be a wolf in sheep's clothing for many unsuspecting voters. But, it can only help the Democratic Party if he agrees with Democrats over Republicans like Dick Cheney, in my opinion.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Nader tried to do. Ham handed in a different way though.
H2O Man
(73,506 posts)I tend to agree. Yet there are distinctions. Nader believed that there was "no difference" between Gore and Bush, and actually attempted to combine (them) and conquer what he viewed as the greatest threat to America. Paul is the more classic "divide and conquer" type, even within his own party.
Both attract supporters by mixing some truth into their program. But both programs reflect the personal pathology of its leader.
Again, thank you for nailing it.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)after another to appeal to the different groups he wants support from. Think he's anti-Israel? Look, here's a bill to cut Palestinian aid! Snowden fan? Look, here's my anti-NSA lawsuit. Afraid of drones getting you on the sidewalk? Filibuster!! Not a serious legislator by any stretch.
H2O Man
(73,506 posts)The more Dick Cheney is covered by the media -- as obscene as that is -- the better.
tavernier
(12,368 posts)His string is stuck and he won't shut up.
On edit, come to think of it, that would make a pretty good bumper sticker!
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)Cheney helps build Rand Paul's anti-establishment credentials by saying this.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)the fundies, and the corporocracy: they overlap on most things, but each one's an independent power base and they've had conflicts from the get-go, with very vicious primaries (Dem primary issues are when they kick out someone who won't go-along-to-get-along, even if it means throwing the actual election)
among other things, the corpocrats use the fundies to block action on global warming, but their flacks genuinely believe that GMOs, a nuke in every basement, and pills will bring about some sort of Wellsian utopia any day now, while the fundies love to burn books; the militarists love how easy the fundies are to rile up against both the Reds AND then the ultra-Salafists and Baathists they hired to fight them, but also ally tightly with the corporatists who make the weapons for use against "enemies foreign and domestic"; the anarcho-capitalists don't make a lick of sense (public-relations campaigns, poverty, corruption, profits, GMOs, suburbs, regulatory capture, upward flows of wealth, market cornering, monopoly, accidents, racism, speculation, pollution, income inequality impossible under a TRUE capitalism) but share (or compete for) the Angry White Male vote with the Christian Identity and Reconstructionist types in the fundie camp: their rhetoric constantly scours the corpos and warmongers--but they were founded by the Hunt and Koch empires and are riddled with mercenaries, and were in fact one of Ollie North's biggest channels through Honduras (though Argentina and Israel established those channels); the right-liberts also are self-contradictory on religion, being founded by both Rand AND Rushdoony's respective camarillas