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Coventina

(27,052 posts)
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 10:33 AM Jun 2014

Sting refuses to give his kids millions....Yahoo commenters lose their sh__!

Pretty funny stuff.
And of course, much of the commentary by readers is incoherent.

Personally, I applaud what Sting is doing. As a citizen of the UK, it doesn't come under US inheritance laws, but I've always been against inherited wealth. One family house or farm and its furnishings and that should be it.
No trust funds, no bank accounts, no stock portfolios, no vacation homes, etc.

Didn't we found the US to be a country that isn't run by landed gentry?

https://tv.yahoo.com/news/sting-says-wont-let-kids-inherit-300-million-035500620.html

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Sting refuses to give his kids millions....Yahoo commenters lose their sh__! (Original Post) Coventina Jun 2014 OP
"Dad, quit being so Stingy..." Blue Owl Jun 2014 #1
LOL! Whisp Jun 2014 #4
I have no problem with that. TwilightGardener Jun 2014 #2
I am anti-nepotism. However, until massive inheritance is either abolished or heavily taxed... stevenleser Jun 2014 #3
I'm not seeing that tkmorris Jun 2014 #15
Those are values that are his responsibility to instill if he believes them so strongly. stevenleser Jun 2014 #19
Civilization is inherited wealth The2ndWheel Jun 2014 #5
I agree with you to an extent, that's why I said one family property and its furnishings are fine Coventina Jun 2014 #6
Why Wait? 4Q2u2 Jun 2014 #7
According to the article, Sting wants his kids to develop into well-rounded individuals with a work Coventina Jun 2014 #8
I appreciate the sentiment but he's still a pretentious prick... truebrit71 Jun 2014 #9
Haha! So, maybe he's doing them even more of a favor. Coventina Jun 2014 #10
LOL!! Wouldn't that be ironic... truebrit71 Jun 2014 #11
Bill Gates has taken a similar stance. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2014 #12
Not to mention the 75% of DU whistler162 Jun 2014 #13
the same right wing commenters who believe in "lift yourself up by your own bootstraps"? alp227 Jun 2014 #14
Yeah, there's a fair number who are outraged that Sting would prefer to give his money Coventina Jun 2014 #16
Good for Sting. I have watched first hand as inherited wealth, and potential inherited wealth, Zorra Jun 2014 #17
That doesn't surprise me. GoCubsGo Jun 2014 #18
That's gonna make for some, um, interesting family gatherings KamaAina Jun 2014 #20
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
3. I am anti-nepotism. However, until massive inheritance is either abolished or heavily taxed...
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 10:41 AM
Jun 2014

trying to pretend that isn't a big part of how the system works and not giving it to your kids if you have it is not the right thing to do either, IMHO.

The right thing to do is to teach your kids why its a problem and give them the tools they need to try to make change. It's a lot easier to advocate for change if you have money.

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
15. I'm not seeing that
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 01:02 PM
Jun 2014

Let's assume that Sting knows full well it is "a big part of how the system works". I see no reason to believe he does not. I do not however see how that impacts his personal decision not to do so. Does it somehow invalidate his reasons?

Further, I have little confidence that handing a large pile of money to your kids and expecting them to use any of it to fight to change a system that allows people to give large sums of money to their kids is a viable plan.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
19. Those are values that are his responsibility to instill if he believes them so strongly.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 02:05 PM
Jun 2014

If you believe that the 99% are completely marginalized and the 1% hold virtually all the power, its asinine to keep money from your kids when you die and expect them to challenge the status quo as 99%ers rather than 1%ers.

That makes absolutely no sense.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
5. Civilization is inherited wealth
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 10:46 AM
Jun 2014

That said, Sting can choose to do what he wants with his money. Spend it, leave it, whatever.

Coventina

(27,052 posts)
6. I agree with you to an extent, that's why I said one family property and its furnishings are fine
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 10:51 AM
Jun 2014

with me.

Civilization does require a belief in stability and a sense of permanence to thrive.

My point is that estates of hundreds of millions of dollars and more (such as Sting's) should not be passed down to one's progeny. It ultimately pulls the fabric of civilization apart, rather than keeping it together.

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
7. Why Wait?
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:11 PM
Jun 2014

If it is such a corrupting burden, why does he not just give all his money away now? Go back to the simple life pre-fame and fortune.
Because he and I both know that being poor sucks.
I am pretty sure that they may not inherite the whole 300 million but they will be taken care of. Not to mention doors somehow magicallly open up to the kids of "IN" poeple.

Coventina

(27,052 posts)
8. According to the article, Sting wants his kids to develop into well-rounded individuals with a work
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:19 PM
Jun 2014

ethic.

His point, I think, is that he came from nothing and built what he has today from his talent and sweat.
His money is the result of that, so it is the fruit of his labor, not a corrupting influence, at least for him.

He also talks about the many people on his payroll, that benefit from the money he brings in, so the money is not just a static thing, he's putting it to use all the time, to keep other people working.

And of course, Sting's kids are privileged. He's trying to mitigate them from becoming so privileged that they don't know what real work is.

I think that's a good thing.

Coventina

(27,052 posts)
10. Haha! So, maybe he's doing them even more of a favor.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:31 PM
Jun 2014

"You're Sting's kid? Why are you working here?"

"Well, ya know.....Sting's my dad!"

"Point taken, buddy! Time for a pay rise!"

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,710 posts)
12. Bill Gates has taken a similar stance.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:38 PM
Jun 2014

He's stated he plans to give away most of his fortune hence the Gates Foundation. When Gates suggested that the wealthy have a duty to give something back to society the Wall Street Journal editorial writers lost their shit.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
13. Not to mention the 75% of DU
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:45 PM
Jun 2014

that go apoplectic when the words Bill Gates and Charity appear in the same sentence.

alp227

(32,003 posts)
14. the same right wing commenters who believe in "lift yourself up by your own bootstraps"?
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:56 PM
Jun 2014

(of course unless your daddy was super wealthy and wants you to inherit his wealth!)

Coventina

(27,052 posts)
16. Yeah, there's a fair number who are outraged that Sting would prefer to give his money
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 01:03 PM
Jun 2014

to the government than his family.

Or, that "charity begins at home", so anything you make is owed to your family.

Or, since children don't ask to be born, a parent owes them EVERYTHING (many comments like this) and giving money anywhere else is a betrayal.

Seriously!

It's pretty crazy.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
17. Good for Sting. I have watched first hand as inherited wealth, and potential inherited wealth,
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 01:08 PM
Jun 2014

turned it's victims into thoughtless, clueless, and callous human beings who I refuse to associate with.

I've watched kids waste their lives kissing their shitty parents' asses, doing basically nothing that would prepare them for life and being kind to others, because they expected or knew that their parents were going to leave them great wealth.

The expression "money is the root of all evil" is pretty much the truth.

GoCubsGo

(32,073 posts)
18. That doesn't surprise me.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 01:12 PM
Jun 2014

Yahoo's comments sections have long been badly infested with right wing sock puppets. Right wingers love their family money, even the wannabes, who will never see anything like that themselves.

And, it's certainly not surprising that their commentary is incoherent. It rarely makes sense.

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