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Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:13 PM Jun 2014

‘Bullsh*t!’ Greenwald and Iraq Vet Blow Up on Real Time over Snowden Leaks

During Friday night’s Real Time, Glenn Greenwald battled Paul Rieckhoff, Iraq War veteran and founder of Iraq and Afghansitan Veterans of America, in a massive shouting match over whether Edward Snowden‘s leaks damaged the country and helped the terrorists. And even Bill Maher had to push back on Greenwald, citing a Bush-era national security official he trusts who said Snowden actually did help the terrorists.

Rieckhoff was bothered by the fact that Snowden’s “hiding in Russia.” Greenwald shot back, “That is total bullshit!” They fought over why Snowden had to flee and the “systematic attack on whistleblowers” in the United States. Rieckhoff shouted, “How do you know the information he revealed did not cost American lives?”

They kept going back-and-forth over what Snowden did, with Greenwald asking somewhat bewilderedly, “So we’re just supposed to take the government’s word?” Rieckhoff responded, “And we’re supposed to take your word?”

The video at the link

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bullsht-greenwald-and-iraq-vet-blow-up-on-real-time-over-snowden-leaks/

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‘Bullsh*t!’ Greenwald and Iraq Vet Blow Up on Real Time over Snowden Leaks (Original Post) question everything Jun 2014 OP
I'm not a huge Greenwald fan, but I think in this circumstance, Reickhoff was wrong. kysrsoze Jun 2014 #1
I agreed with Reickhoff that we don't know, perhaps will never know question everything Jun 2014 #2

kysrsoze

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1. I'm not a huge Greenwald fan, but I think in this circumstance, Reickhoff was wrong.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:36 PM
Jun 2014

Reickhoff strikes me as the "U.S. Govt does no wrong"-type, unless it has to do with the VA. He seems over his head when he discusses stuff like this, b/c he didn't give Greenwald anything factual - just notions/assertions, and came off that way in prior interviews. I'd trust Greenwald over Reickhoff, has Reickhoff doesn't have any inside knowledge of any of this.

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2. I agreed with Reickhoff that we don't know, perhaps will never know
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 10:29 PM
Jun 2014

the real damage that Snowden caused. In casualty and in exposure of top secrets, not the damage to our ego or the disclosure about spying on us.

I also agreed, and stated here before, that for someone who cares about personal liberty to hide first in China and than in Russia - those bastions of personal liberty, one has to question his real motives and whether he has/had foreign operators.


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