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TacoD

(581 posts)
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:38 PM Jun 2014

Anybody here telecommute?

Is there anybody here who currently telecommutes across state lines? Do you pay state income tax in both your home state and your employer's home state? I am considering a job where I would work from home in Iowa, with the employer's home office in New York, but I am wondering about the state tax implications.

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snooper2

(30,151 posts)
3. you pay state taxes where you live..you can't live in Missery and work for a company in Texas
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:46 PM
Jun 2014

and get away with not paying Missery State Income Taxes

catrose

(5,059 posts)
5. well, my contracting company is in NJ
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:47 PM
Jun 2014

but client office is in TX. TX has no income tax, but neither my acct nor NJ has ever suggested that I pay that state. Dunno if that helps. My untrained opinion would be that you pay tax where you have residency.

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
6. I did for years, I was one of the pioneers in this. I lived in several states not in the one where
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:51 PM
Jun 2014

my actual job was and only ever paid taxes to my place of residence. Maybe other states are different, I have no idea.

 

pugetres

(507 posts)
7. Ask your accountant or possibly ask
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 01:18 PM
Jun 2014

on the turbo tax answer exchange. The answer exchange is free but there is the chance that nobody will answer your question since it is "off season". https://ttlc.intuit.com/?home=true

New York seems to be a state that wants taxes from telecommuters.

http://www.journalofaccountancy.com/Issues/2009/Jun/20091371

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/20/business/businessspecial2/20tax.html?_r=0

But, it appears that Iowa will give a credit for income taxes paid to another state: http://www.iowa.gov/tax/1040EI/GenInfo/126-130Examples2013.html

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
8. Most states would only tax your state of residence. NY tries to fuck everyone over.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 01:25 PM
Jun 2014

I have had clients with zero ties to NY get assessments with NY asserting 100% of their income being taxable in NY. Thus, I can guarantee they will try to assess taxes.

Good news is that you get credit for taxes paid to another state (i.e. if you pay NY taxes, Iowa will give you a credit), so you never pay state taxes twice. Bad news is that NY's rates are higher, so you will end up paying NY's higher rates and then get a credit against your entire Iowa liability.

Holly_Hobby

(3,033 posts)
10. I telecommuted from Ohio for 9 years,
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 01:30 PM
Jun 2014

and some of my work was in Michigan. Ohio said I only had to pay Ohio taxes, Michigan confirmed it. I would check with both (or all) of the states you do business in.

seaglass

(8,171 posts)
11. Only pay to the state I live in. I have been telecommuting for 20 years for 2 different companies,
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 01:31 PM
Jun 2014

neither with HQ in my home state.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
12. I pay taxes to California and New York. It depends on where you live, and where the job is.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 01:37 PM
Jun 2014

I telecommute 3-4 days a week, I'm located in California and my employers primary offices are here in California, but we have a secondary office in New York City. While we generally use project-shifts to get around New York's tax rules*, there are instances where I have to work directly for the New York office, and New York has a law requiring telecommuters to pay New York taxes on any wages you earn from a New York company.

The good news is that you won't be double taxed. States don't generally tax you for wages taxed by other states. The taxes that I pay to New York are deducted from my California taxes, so the overall tax bill is roughly even. It just makes the paperwork a bit more complicated.

You DO need to be very careful about New York's f'd up "convenience telecommuting" rule though. They have this rule stating that if you're telecommuting because it's a job requirement, or if you are NEVER in New York during the year, then you only have to pay taxes on the portion of the income earned while working for a New York company. But if you are telecommuting for YOUR convenience (the company has an office for you, but you choose to telecommute because it's easier on you or New York is too far away), then you are required to pay New York the taxes on 100% of your income. If that's the case, I would check Iowa law to ensure that they don't have some sort of maximum deductible percentage or something, just to make sure that it's not going to bite you. My New York income was less than 5% of my overall wages last year, so that wasn't an issue for me.

Your best bet is to talk to a tax person there in Iowa though. Find out how Iowa handles residents paying taxes to other states, and whether there are any Iowa laws or limits that could lead to double taxation. Your probably fine, but I wouldn't bet thousands of tax dollars on a "probably".

* Our company has a dedicated code for these kinds of projects. Officially, the SNY code means 'Shifted from New York', but unofficially we all know that it really means 'Screw New York'

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
13. You should be able to only pay in your state of residence, but your employer has to
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 01:48 PM
Jun 2014

agree or you will have a documentation conflict. Otherwise look into reciprocity agreements between the two states, which if they exist will allow you to only pay in your resident state. Worst case is that your employer won't change your status and there is no reciprocity, in which case you will be paying non-resident taxes in one state and resident in the other.

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