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Two grown men were playing with guns, so of course, one of them Second Amendmented himself in the head.The shooting has been ruled as accidental and no charges will be filed in the North Carolina mans death. 22-year-old Raymond David Andrews, of New Bern, fatally inured himself with a handgun.
Upon further investigation, it revealed that Andrews and a friend and coworker at the Nightmare Factory were discussing and viewing firearms while standing in the parking lot beside victims vehicle.
http://freakoutnation.com/2014/06/23/man-showing-off-his-gun-to-friends-accidentally-second-amendments-himself-in-the-head/
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)liberal N proud
(60,302 posts)Because the people being shot and the people with them all claim them to be accidental.
Either the guns are killing people or the people are killing people and blaming the guns.
Separation
(1,975 posts)One of my pet peeves. The gun is designed to shoot when the trigger is pulled. Sounds like the gun worked just fine.
Negligent Discharge is what these are.
Skittles
(152,966 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Not likely, but it feels that way with so many going to meet their maker (or become compost) with all these 'accidents.'
Triana
(22,666 posts)And so it was.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Andrews then returned the firearm to the friend, who reloaded the gun as Andrews went to get a second firearm from his vehicle, police said. As Andrews handed the second gun to his friend, Andrews took the now loaded firearm and placed it on the front passenger seat of his vehicle, said police.
While Andrews and his friend talked about the second firearm, two additional coworkers/friends joined in the conversation, police said. That was when Andrews reached into his vehicle and took out the loaded firearm that he placed on his passenger seat, said investigators. Andrews then cocked the gun and placed it to his head. The weapon was discharged, causing a significant head wound to Andrews, according to police.
Investigators said they talked with the witnesses and reviewed a surveillance video. Based on the evidence, police determined that Andrews was either unaware that the firearm had been reloaded, or he was distracted by the conversation with his friends, causing him to forget the firearm had been reloaded.
http://www.wcti12.com/news/man-killed-in-accidental-shooting-at-nightmare-factory/26567164
Isn't this pretty basic stuff as what NOT to do in 2A-land?
Responsible, my ass.
avebury
(10,946 posts)hatrack
(59,442 posts).
MattBaggins
(7,894 posts)Brilliant
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)"The shooting has been ruled as accidental and no charges will be filed..."
I'd hate to see his corpse rotting in jail.
truth2power
(8,219 posts)Richardo
(38,391 posts)My new favorite verb
mac56
(17,561 posts)Between that and "ammosexuals," two new terms that need to be in widespread use.
Initech
(99,915 posts)And Bill Maher defined it beautifully: "And before you try to deny that you have an intimate relationship with your gun, consider this: you're taking it out to dinner."
samsingh
(17,571 posts)gelsdorf
(240 posts)let them defend THAT!!!
annabanana
(52,791 posts)AAO
(3,300 posts)BainsBane
(53,003 posts)PsychoBunny
(86 posts)among people of low intellect.
C'mon, people. You're looking worse than the dude that shot himself.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Dream on. That guy makes gun lovers look like idiots.
PsychoBunny
(86 posts)stupidity and maliciousness.
ma·li·cious -[muh-lish-uhs] adjective
1. full of, characterized by, or showing malice; malevolent; spiteful: malicious gossip.
2. Law. vicious, wanton, or mischievous in motivation or purpose.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/maliciousness
Rex
(65,616 posts)id·i·ot
noun \ˈi-dē-ət\
: a very stupid or foolish person
fbc
(1,668 posts)knightmaar
(748 posts)Shooting himself in the head was probably necessary for the security of a free state.
Don't you feel more secure?
knightmaar
(748 posts)But maybe it has a different meaning from how we use it in Canada.
One of those cultural quirks, like "restroom/bathroom/washroom" and what have you.
AAO
(3,300 posts)How is the usage different in Canada in this instance?
knightmaar
(748 posts)"Unintentional", maybe. Or "negligent".
But "accident" is for when your return connection from overseas puts you on the same flight as a friend you haven't seen in years, or when a clumsy two year old spills your drink.
But: "He accidentally shot himself in the head"?
No. He put a gun to his head, didn't check the barrel, and pulled the trigger. That's not "accident".
I admit we use this for fairly avoidable, recklessness induced car collisions, and it's usually not appropriate there either.
Coventina
(26,874 posts)it is not "accidental."
Many gun owners have the doctrine that there are no "accidental" shootings. A trigger is pulled 100% of the time.
The incidence of guns going off by themselves is so rare as to being almost statistically insignificant.
So, I think what the poster was saying that the correct word would be "negligent" rather than "accident".
Moostache
(9,895 posts)and at young ages to prevent breeding as well.
sarisataka
(18,220 posts)Well that would be children. Classy
No more gun deaths- no matter how many deaths it takes
Daemonaquila
(1,712 posts)"Man eats bacon every meal for 40 years, dies of heart attack."
"Skier has great day on mountain with friends, goes off cliff and dies."
"Motorcyclist goes too fast on curve, dies after hitting tree.
"Roofer screws up, dies after shooting himself in the eye with a nail gun."
"Woman chooses to undergo high risk pregnancy, dies."
Are those politically funny deaths, too?
People have their dangerous toys, habits, and past times. Living is dangerous, guaranteed to kill you at some point. People make mistakes. It's both stupid and tacky to make this guy's dumb move into a political statement against guns. If this is a story that supports your point for gun control, then you'd better ban bicycles, power tools, ATVs, mountain climbing, and - oh yeah - cars for starters, and go from there.
randome
(34,845 posts)...it would still be 'funny'.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]
knightmaar
(748 posts)Yes, it's always very tacky to point out how dangerous guns are when someone demonstrates how dangerous guns are.
How dare we use the constant spate of intentional, accidental or foolish effects of gun availability to indicate that the easy availability of guns is dangerous!
Very rude of us.
Won't happen again.
Also ... no one is laughing. I don't know why you would assume that political satire is necessarily funny. There's a dead guy who didn't need to be dead.
Picture me twisting my lips, shaking my head darkly and muttering "Second Amendment, my ass", if that helps.
sarisataka
(18,220 posts)Many are laughing. Some find it so funny they wish children would do it.
Once again those who say they are against violence and gun deaths take celebrate a stupid action that leads to death
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)I happen to agree. If someone is so stupid, dangerous and obsessive about guns that they end up causing their own death with one, yeah, it's better if the do it before kids. That way they don'leave an orphan behid, for one thing, but also they don't bring more of themselves into the world before they go.
Please continue with your outrage though, if you are so inclined. You're rather good at it!
Julie
sarisataka
(18,220 posts)By their 20s a person may have several children.
Yes I will be outraged by senseless deaths. And I will point out the hypocrisy of those who celebrate some deaths and wish for more
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)I don't think anyone is actually celebrating. And yes, at 22 one can have children. I hope the man in the OP didn't.
Julie
Scuba
(53,475 posts)PsychoBunny
(86 posts)among people with certain disabilities.
Orrex
(63,086 posts)locdlib
(176 posts)I find it to be stupid and tacky that a country as advanced as the US allows gun nuts to openly carry guns for absolutely no reason.
I find it to be stupid and tacky that there are horrendous shootings that happen on a daily basis, yet the NRA tells us we need more guns out there.
I find it stupid and tacky that congress absolutely refuses to address the fact that there is a gun problem in this country.
I find it stupid and tacky that while most people agree that there is a problem with guns, a few wealthy people are literally holding the rest of us at gunpoint so that they can become wealthier while leaving everybody else out to dry.
The problem with the examples that you cited is that those people made those decisions because that's what they wanted to do. A person eating too much bacon does not affect me. A non law-enforcement random person carrying a loaded gun that could discharge and hit me while I go to a doctor's appointment would definitely affect me.
phoenix35
(1 post)The man eating too much bacon increases the cost of all of our healthcare.
The motorists that are driving unresponsively statistically put us in much more danger than the idiot carrying his gun around.
The more we laugh at the misfortune of others and build our soapboxes on their bodies, the less distinction there is between the parties.
locdlib
(176 posts)I absolutely stand by what I said and I mean what I said.
The person eating too much bacon may end up dead because he is unhealthy. I'm still alive because I don't eat too much bacon. And your argument about me covering the cost of his healthcare is bunk. He may have health insurance. If he doesn't, and I have to incur the cost of some of his medical bills, I don't care. You see, I'm still alive. With the whole gun situation, I'm either severely maimed or dead. I rather be intact and alive rather than maimed for life or dead.
I really do hope there are no unresponsive drivers out there. However, in the case of the irresponsible driver, again this comparison is apples to oranges. I believe we all know that driving has the potential to be dangerous. It is also a necessary means of transportation to get me from point A to point B, so really not something that I can avoid doing. However, it is not necessary for anyone outside of law enforcement to carry loaded weapons outside of their home. The only reason a non-law enforcement person carries a loaded weapon outside of their home is to bully other people.
If these gun idiots were not such big idiots, perhaps there wouldn't be so much misfortune. And if you really believe that people on here think this is funny, you go that wrong, too.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)I can't believe these lame, long-since-debunked comparisons are still being made.
cvoogt
(949 posts)and unpatriotic
Rex
(65,616 posts)What a dumbfuck.
eppur_se_muova
(36,227 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)egduj
(805 posts)I'm sure his family is in a little bit of a shock right now, but a few years from now they'll be laughing about it, also.
proReality
(1,628 posts)until he was stretched out on the ground.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)truth2power
(8,219 posts)It's not LOL funny, obviously. It's a sort of gallows humor; like those "Far Side" cartoons.
I feel for his family. But truly a stupid thing to do, you have to admit.
> > >
OT: I bought a heat gun last week. Trying to remove a few old peel-&-stick tiles.
In the operating instructions it said, "This item is not to be used as a hair dryer". I swear.
petronius
(26,581 posts)and gallows humor - I'm no mind reader, but I suspect the motivation behind much of the humor on threads like this is motivated more by the former than the latter. I would define gallows humor as a 'coping mechanism' use of humor, addressing a bleak hopeless situation, and expressed by the victim(s) of that situation. Little if any of the humor we find on gun threads (or DU in general, really) would seem to qualify as gallows humor or black comedy.
As for your heat gun, there's a link to a tale about a person who would have needed that warning here...
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)it doesn't have a second/more glorious purpose.
onethatcares
(16,133 posts)NEVER POINT YOUR WEAPON AT ANYTHING YOU DON'T INTEND TO KILL.
Once you got that one down, number two and three ain't shit.
ECHOFIELDS
(25 posts)Googling "man shoots self in prick"
delivers over 2 million hits.
So stiffening up on our 2A protections
is an impotent way to keep the
rising of pricks in America
from erupting into dangerous proportions
arthritisR_US
(7,269 posts)abakan
(1,815 posts)CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)Dumbasses shoot themselves and assholes shoot other people. All by "accident."
AAO
(3,300 posts)I only had the dumb-ass part. But dumb-ass is the default and they all have a dumb-ass component no matter how fucking important they think they are. If I'd known there were 2 categories, I may have said the dumb-ass graduated via hate to the paranoid, self-important, hate everything including the gubmint, waste of oxygen.
But I'd be wrong. That's not appropriate for this early in the evening. I apologize.
The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)fire and keep his friends safe. Only a good guy with a gun can stop an idiot with a gun. Here, he did both.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)this was a person, loved and will be missed.