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doxydad

(1,363 posts)
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 06:52 AM Jun 2014

Man showing off his gun to friends accidentally 'Second Amendments' himself in the head

Two grown men were playing with guns, so of course, one of them Second Amendmented himself in the head.

The shooting has been ruled as accidental and no charges will be filed in the North Carolina man’s death. 22-year-old Raymond David Andrews, of New Bern, fatally inured himself with a handgun.

Upon further investigation, it revealed that Andrews and a friend and coworker at the Nightmare Factory were discussing and viewing firearms while standing in the parking lot beside victim’s vehicle.


http://freakoutnation.com/2014/06/23/man-showing-off-his-gun-to-friends-accidentally-second-amendments-himself-in-the-head/

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Man showing off his gun to friends accidentally 'Second Amendments' himself in the head (Original Post) doxydad Jun 2014 OP
Bit by bit the gun market reduces itself. Katashi_itto Jun 2014 #1
Another Darwin. hobbit709 Jun 2014 #2
The most offensive part of the article? "between he and his friends..." HIM (or HIMSELF). WinkyDink Jun 2014 #3
Sounds like an ND not an AD ileus Jun 2014 #4
There sure has been a rash of accidental shootings - are they sure that guns don't kill people liberal N proud Jun 2014 #5
No such thing as an accidental discharge. Separation Jun 2014 #62
you have apparently never dated a man Skittles Jun 2014 #65
Have guns achieved sentient status and decided humanity must be eliminated to save the planet? freshwest Jun 2014 #64
"Nightmare Factory" Triana Jun 2014 #6
Yep. Evidently, it's a veteran-owned business in Havelock. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #52
The gene pool gets cleaned out once again. nt avebury Jun 2014 #7
FREEDUMB!!! hatrack Jun 2014 #8
He cocked a weapon and pointed it at his own head. MattBaggins Jun 2014 #9
So glad no charges will be filed... magical thyme Jun 2014 #10
I was trying to figure that out. Asking myself who they would file charges against. truth2power Jun 2014 #38
"second amendments himself" Richardo Jun 2014 #11
My thoughts too. mac56 Jun 2014 #14
I love the term "ammosexual". Initech Jun 2014 #46
gunsexual too samsingh Jun 2014 #55
This needs to be used more gelsdorf Jun 2014 #15
my first reaction as well. . . now consider it part of my vocabulary. . . . n/t annabanana Jun 2014 #24
He was liberated by the blood of patriots! Bless his heart! AAO Jun 2014 #26
Definitely. I'm going to use that one. BainsBane Jun 2014 #28
Yes, that would be really amusing PsychoBunny Jun 2014 #31
Worse than a guy that puts a loaded gun to his head and pulls the trigger? Rex Jun 2014 #33
There's a difference between PsychoBunny Jun 2014 #35
Doesn't change the fact that he makes gun lovers look like idiots. Rex Jun 2014 #36
No comment from the commander of his well regulated militia? fbc Jun 2014 #12
There's no comment required knightmaar Jun 2014 #16
That's not how we use the word "accidental" knightmaar Jun 2014 #13
I'm curious about what you said vis-a-vis "accidental". AAO Jun 2014 #42
I just wouldn't use that word knightmaar Jun 2014 #44
I think the poster is saying that when someone holds a gun to their own head and pulls the trigger Coventina Jun 2014 #47
I encourage more of them to fondle their guns in small circles like this... Moostache Jun 2014 #17
To prevent breeding sarisataka Jun 2014 #45
What a bullcrap "headline." Daemonaquila Jun 2014 #18
If he pulled out a power tool in the parking lot and started demonstrating its destructiveness... randome Jun 2014 #21
Stupid and tacky? knightmaar Jun 2014 #22
Look again sarisataka Jun 2014 #43
By "young ages" it's highly likely the poster meant like guy in OP. JNelson6563 Jun 2014 #56
Young age sarisataka Jun 2014 #57
Ok, stay on the soapbox then. Enjoy! JNelson6563 Jun 2014 #59
That's lame. Scuba Jun 2014 #23
It's what passes for humor PsychoBunny Jun 2014 #32
I suggest: "Man Does One Of Two Things You Should Never Do With A Gun, Dies" Orrex Jun 2014 #34
You know what I find stupid and tacky? locdlib Jun 2014 #37
I disagree. These things do effect you. phoenix35 Jun 2014 #40
I don't care that you disagree with me. locdlib Jun 2014 #49
And yet none of your fake examples involve weapons. arcane1 Jun 2014 #51
Russian roulette is for commies cvoogt Jun 2014 #19
2nd Amendment - the right to do really stupid shit with lethal weapons. Rex Jun 2014 #20
Darwin's Little Helpers(TM) hard at work as ever. nt eppur_se_muova Jun 2014 #25
If only he had two guns...gungeoneer logic. nt valerief Jun 2014 #27
Fucking hilarious!! egduj Jun 2014 #29
I guess he was 'standing his ground' proReality Jun 2014 #30
His Poor Family. IdaBriggs Jun 2014 #39
I don't know why people are nit-picking about the humor inherent in all this truth2power Jun 2014 #41
I think there's a distinction between schadenfreude-inspired ridicule petronius Jun 2014 #63
at some point people will realize that guns are actually created to kill La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2014 #48
first rule of gun ownership onethatcares Jun 2014 #50
Googling "man shoots self in prick" ECHOFIELDS Jun 2014 #53
I guess his gun safety classes didn't kick in till next week... arthritisR_US Jun 2014 #54
Chalk up another death by....Stupid...nt abakan Jun 2014 #58
I have decided all these incidents fall into two categories. Dumbasses and Assholes. CBGLuthier Jun 2014 #60
I was just formulating in my pea brain just such a thought AAO Jun 2014 #61
He should have carried his own gun so he could return The Second Stone Jun 2014 #66
cant stand the frivolousness of the title. i have ignored it all day, and it bugs me. seabeyond Jun 2014 #67

liberal N proud

(60,289 posts)
5. There sure has been a rash of accidental shootings - are they sure that guns don't kill people
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:23 AM
Jun 2014

Because the people being shot and the people with them all claim them to be accidental.

Either the guns are killing people or the people are killing people and blaming the guns.

Separation

(1,975 posts)
62. No such thing as an accidental discharge.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 06:36 PM
Jun 2014

One of my pet peeves. The gun is designed to shoot when the trigger is pulled. Sounds like the gun worked just fine.

Negligent Discharge is what these are.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
64. Have guns achieved sentient status and decided humanity must be eliminated to save the planet?
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 12:52 AM
Jun 2014

Not likely, but it feels that way with so many going to meet their maker (or become compost) with all these 'accidents.'



WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
52. Yep. Evidently, it's a veteran-owned business in Havelock.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 11:37 AM
Jun 2014
http://www.nightmarefactorync.com/calendar

Police said they learned that Andrews and a friend/coworker were discussing and looking at firearms while standing in the parking lot beside Andrews's vehicle. At one point during the conversation, the friend unloaded his gun and handed it to Andrews, who then began to dry fire the weapon while still talking with his friend, according to investigators.

Andrews then returned the firearm to the friend, who reloaded the gun as Andrews went to get a second firearm from his vehicle, police said. As Andrews handed the second gun to his friend, Andrews took the now loaded firearm and placed it on the front passenger seat of his vehicle, said police.

While Andrews and his friend talked about the second firearm, two additional coworkers/friends joined in the conversation, police said. That was when Andrews reached into his vehicle and took out the loaded firearm that he placed on his passenger seat, said investigators. Andrews then cocked the gun and placed it to his head. The weapon was discharged, causing a significant head wound to Andrews, according to police.

Investigators said they talked with the witnesses and reviewed a surveillance video. Based on the evidence, police determined that Andrews was either unaware that the firearm had been reloaded, or he was distracted by the conversation with his friends, causing him to forget the firearm had been reloaded.

http://www.wcti12.com/news/man-killed-in-accidental-shooting-at-nightmare-factory/26567164


Isn't this pretty basic stuff as what NOT to do in 2A-land?

Responsible, my ass.
 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
10. So glad no charges will be filed...
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:11 AM
Jun 2014

"The shooting has been ruled as accidental and no charges will be filed..."

I'd hate to see his corpse rotting in jail.

mac56

(17,557 posts)
14. My thoughts too.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 09:01 AM
Jun 2014

Between that and "ammosexuals," two new terms that need to be in widespread use.

Initech

(99,881 posts)
46. I love the term "ammosexual".
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 11:07 AM
Jun 2014

And Bill Maher defined it beautifully: "And before you try to deny that you have an intimate relationship with your gun, consider this: you're taking it out to dinner."

 

PsychoBunny

(86 posts)
31. Yes, that would be really amusing
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 09:49 AM
Jun 2014

among people of low intellect.

C'mon, people. You're looking worse than the dude that shot himself.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
33. Worse than a guy that puts a loaded gun to his head and pulls the trigger?
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 09:53 AM
Jun 2014

Dream on. That guy makes gun lovers look like idiots.

 

PsychoBunny

(86 posts)
35. There's a difference between
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 09:59 AM
Jun 2014

stupidity and maliciousness.

ma·li·cious -[muh-lish-uhs] adjective
1. full of, characterized by, or showing malice; malevolent; spiteful: malicious gossip.
2. Law. vicious, wanton, or mischievous in motivation or purpose.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/maliciousness

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
36. Doesn't change the fact that he makes gun lovers look like idiots.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:01 AM
Jun 2014

id·i·ot
noun \ˈi-dē-ət\

: a very stupid or foolish person

knightmaar

(748 posts)
16. There's no comment required
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 09:07 AM
Jun 2014

Shooting himself in the head was probably necessary for the security of a free state.

Don't you feel more secure?

knightmaar

(748 posts)
13. That's not how we use the word "accidental"
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:51 AM
Jun 2014

But maybe it has a different meaning from how we use it in Canada.

One of those cultural quirks, like "restroom/bathroom/washroom" and what have you.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
42. I'm curious about what you said vis-a-vis "accidental".
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:44 AM
Jun 2014

How is the usage different in Canada in this instance?

knightmaar

(748 posts)
44. I just wouldn't use that word
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 11:06 AM
Jun 2014

"Unintentional", maybe. Or "negligent".

But "accident" is for when your return connection from overseas puts you on the same flight as a friend you haven't seen in years, or when a clumsy two year old spills your drink.

But: "He accidentally shot himself in the head"?

No. He put a gun to his head, didn't check the barrel, and pulled the trigger. That's not "accident".

I admit we use this for fairly avoidable, recklessness induced car collisions, and it's usually not appropriate there either.

Coventina

(26,808 posts)
47. I think the poster is saying that when someone holds a gun to their own head and pulls the trigger
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 11:10 AM
Jun 2014

it is not "accidental."

Many gun owners have the doctrine that there are no "accidental" shootings. A trigger is pulled 100% of the time.
The incidence of guns going off by themselves is so rare as to being almost statistically insignificant.

So, I think what the poster was saying that the correct word would be "negligent" rather than "accident".

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
17. I encourage more of them to fondle their guns in small circles like this...
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 09:10 AM
Jun 2014

and at young ages to prevent breeding as well.

sarisataka

(18,145 posts)
45. To prevent breeding
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 11:07 AM
Jun 2014

Well that would be children. Classy

No more gun deaths- no matter how many deaths it takes

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
18. What a bullcrap "headline."
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 09:11 AM
Jun 2014

"Man eats bacon every meal for 40 years, dies of heart attack."
"Skier has great day on mountain with friends, goes off cliff and dies."
"Motorcyclist goes too fast on curve, dies after hitting tree.
"Roofer screws up, dies after shooting himself in the eye with a nail gun."
"Woman chooses to undergo high risk pregnancy, dies."

Are those politically funny deaths, too?

People have their dangerous toys, habits, and past times. Living is dangerous, guaranteed to kill you at some point. People make mistakes. It's both stupid and tacky to make this guy's dumb move into a political statement against guns. If this is a story that supports your point for gun control, then you'd better ban bicycles, power tools, ATVs, mountain climbing, and - oh yeah - cars for starters, and go from there.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
21. If he pulled out a power tool in the parking lot and started demonstrating its destructiveness...
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 09:22 AM
Jun 2014

...it would still be 'funny'.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

knightmaar

(748 posts)
22. Stupid and tacky?
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 09:24 AM
Jun 2014

Yes, it's always very tacky to point out how dangerous guns are when someone demonstrates how dangerous guns are.

How dare we use the constant spate of intentional, accidental or foolish effects of gun availability to indicate that the easy availability of guns is dangerous!

Very rude of us.

Won't happen again.

Also ... no one is laughing. I don't know why you would assume that political satire is necessarily funny. There's a dead guy who didn't need to be dead.

Picture me twisting my lips, shaking my head darkly and muttering "Second Amendment, my ass", if that helps.

sarisataka

(18,145 posts)
43. Look again
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 11:03 AM
Jun 2014

Many are laughing. Some find it so funny they wish children would do it.

Once again those who say they are against violence and gun deaths take celebrate a stupid action that leads to death

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
56. By "young ages" it's highly likely the poster meant like guy in OP.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:21 PM
Jun 2014

I happen to agree. If someone is so stupid, dangerous and obsessive about guns that they end up causing their own death with one, yeah, it's better if the do it before kids. That way they don'leave an orphan behid, for one thing, but also they don't bring more of themselves into the world before they go.

Please continue with your outrage though, if you are so inclined. You're rather good at it!

Julie

sarisataka

(18,145 posts)
57. Young age
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:25 PM
Jun 2014

By their 20s a person may have several children.

Yes I will be outraged by senseless deaths. And I will point out the hypocrisy of those who celebrate some deaths and wish for more

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
59. Ok, stay on the soapbox then. Enjoy!
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:53 PM
Jun 2014

I don't think anyone is actually celebrating. And yes, at 22 one can have children. I hope the man in the OP didn't.

Julie

locdlib

(176 posts)
37. You know what I find stupid and tacky?
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:06 AM
Jun 2014

I find it to be stupid and tacky that a country as advanced as the US allows gun nuts to openly carry guns for absolutely no reason.

I find it to be stupid and tacky that there are horrendous shootings that happen on a daily basis, yet the NRA tells us we need more guns out there.

I find it stupid and tacky that congress absolutely refuses to address the fact that there is a gun problem in this country.

I find it stupid and tacky that while most people agree that there is a problem with guns, a few wealthy people are literally holding the rest of us at gunpoint so that they can become wealthier while leaving everybody else out to dry.

The problem with the examples that you cited is that those people made those decisions because that's what they wanted to do. A person eating too much bacon does not affect me. A non law-enforcement random person carrying a loaded gun that could discharge and hit me while I go to a doctor's appointment would definitely affect me.

phoenix35

(1 post)
40. I disagree. These things do effect you.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:21 AM
Jun 2014

The man eating too much bacon increases the cost of all of our healthcare.

The motorists that are driving unresponsively statistically put us in much more danger than the idiot carrying his gun around.

The more we laugh at the misfortune of others and build our soapboxes on their bodies, the less distinction there is between the parties.

locdlib

(176 posts)
49. I don't care that you disagree with me.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 11:14 AM
Jun 2014

I absolutely stand by what I said and I mean what I said.

The person eating too much bacon may end up dead because he is unhealthy. I'm still alive because I don't eat too much bacon. And your argument about me covering the cost of his healthcare is bunk. He may have health insurance. If he doesn't, and I have to incur the cost of some of his medical bills, I don't care. You see, I'm still alive. With the whole gun situation, I'm either severely maimed or dead. I rather be intact and alive rather than maimed for life or dead.

I really do hope there are no unresponsive drivers out there. However, in the case of the irresponsible driver, again this comparison is apples to oranges. I believe we all know that driving has the potential to be dangerous. It is also a necessary means of transportation to get me from point A to point B, so really not something that I can avoid doing. However, it is not necessary for anyone outside of law enforcement to carry loaded weapons outside of their home. The only reason a non-law enforcement person carries a loaded weapon outside of their home is to bully other people.

If these gun idiots were not such big idiots, perhaps there wouldn't be so much misfortune. And if you really believe that people on here think this is funny, you go that wrong, too.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
51. And yet none of your fake examples involve weapons.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 11:36 AM
Jun 2014

I can't believe these lame, long-since-debunked comparisons are still being made.

egduj

(804 posts)
29. Fucking hilarious!!
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 09:45 AM
Jun 2014

I'm sure his family is in a little bit of a shock right now, but a few years from now they'll be laughing about it, also.

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
41. I don't know why people are nit-picking about the humor inherent in all this
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:29 AM
Jun 2014

It's not LOL funny, obviously. It's a sort of gallows humor; like those "Far Side" cartoons.

I feel for his family. But truly a stupid thing to do, you have to admit.

> > >

OT: I bought a heat gun last week. Trying to remove a few old peel-&-stick tiles.

In the operating instructions it said, "This item is not to be used as a hair dryer". I swear.

petronius

(26,576 posts)
63. I think there's a distinction between schadenfreude-inspired ridicule
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:54 PM
Jun 2014

and gallows humor - I'm no mind reader, but I suspect the motivation behind much of the humor on threads like this is motivated more by the former than the latter. I would define gallows humor as a 'coping mechanism' use of humor, addressing a bleak hopeless situation, and expressed by the victim(s) of that situation. Little if any of the humor we find on gun threads (or DU in general, really) would seem to qualify as gallows humor or black comedy.

As for your heat gun, there's a link to a tale about a person who would have needed that warning here...

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
48. at some point people will realize that guns are actually created to kill
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 11:11 AM
Jun 2014

it doesn't have a second/more glorious purpose.

onethatcares

(16,119 posts)
50. first rule of gun ownership
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 11:32 AM
Jun 2014

NEVER POINT YOUR WEAPON AT ANYTHING YOU DON'T INTEND TO KILL.

Once you got that one down, number two and three ain't shit.

 

ECHOFIELDS

(25 posts)
53. Googling "man shoots self in prick"
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 11:41 AM
Jun 2014

Googling "man shoots self in prick"
delivers over 2 million hits.
So stiffening up on our 2A protections
is an impotent way to keep the
rising of pricks in America
from erupting into dangerous proportions

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
60. I have decided all these incidents fall into two categories. Dumbasses and Assholes.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:00 PM
Jun 2014

Dumbasses shoot themselves and assholes shoot other people. All by "accident."

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
61. I was just formulating in my pea brain just such a thought
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 06:30 PM
Jun 2014

I only had the dumb-ass part. But dumb-ass is the default and they all have a dumb-ass component no matter how fucking important they think they are. If I'd known there were 2 categories, I may have said the dumb-ass graduated via hate to the paranoid, self-important, hate everything including the gubmint, waste of oxygen.

But I'd be wrong. That's not appropriate for this early in the evening. I apologize.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
66. He should have carried his own gun so he could return
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 01:31 AM
Jun 2014

fire and keep his friends safe. Only a good guy with a gun can stop an idiot with a gun. Here, he did both.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
67. cant stand the frivolousness of the title. i have ignored it all day, and it bugs me.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 01:38 AM
Jun 2014

this was a person, loved and will be missed.

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