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rdking647

(5,113 posts)
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:24 AM Jun 2014

KFC and the pitbull victim--- its a hoax

Last edited Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:33 AM - Edit history (1)

last week a lot of people here were outraged (me included) about a KFC that told a 3 year old girl who had been attacked and scared by some dogs to leave because she was scaring other patrons.
well it turns out that the grandmother who claimed it made the story up. the KFC she claimed to have been at has been closed for years. surveillance tapes of the other kfcs near where tha grandmother says the incidident happened dont show her in the store. the register receipts dont show any orders that match what the grandmother claims.
its unknown if teh grandmother will face charges although she should


http://leader-call.com/2014/06/23/kentucky-fried-hoax/


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KFC and the pitbull victim--- its a hoax (Original Post) rdking647 Jun 2014 OP
Thx for posting. I wish people would double check stories before they spread them. Demit Jun 2014 #1
This story looked real until last night... Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2014 #3
"There were actual news reports about it nationwide." Jenoch Jun 2014 #16
Every hoax that gets spread looks real. That's why it gets spread. Demit Jun 2014 #19
Oh, I wholeheartedly agree with that... Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2014 #20
There was no evidence to support it. LisaL Jun 2014 #21
Well, then that's on the media... Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2014 #23
Before msm, this allegation was posted on facebok, and general public run away with it after that. LisaL Jun 2014 #25
HAHA! Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2014 #26
And repeated on DU and dozens of other websites as well onenote Jun 2014 #29
Reminds me of the backwards "B" Obama girl from 2008. The media ran with that story too anneboleyn Jun 2014 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author pipoman Jun 2014 #5
I have no idea what this means. Demit Jun 2014 #35
see post 58 below pipoman Jun 2014 #60
Please explain. Boomerproud Jun 2014 #46
see post 58 below pipoman Jun 2014 #59
lol, pipoman the FBI manual about scams would have to be 200 pages or more! Sunlei Jun 2014 #54
This post was for another thread about an FBI manual pipoman Jun 2014 #58
ok, heres the link to the FBI warnings about scams that seemed to fit this topic Sunlei Jun 2014 #61
Sadly, this will sink... Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2014 #2
K&R. nt raccoon Jun 2014 #4
This story isn't why I will never eat at KFC again. .. pipoman Jun 2014 #6
Well, I can't fault your reasoning, but... Orrex Jun 2014 #9
I manage a restaurant pipoman Jun 2014 #10
Okay. Then don't eat anywhere else or buy anything at retail. Orrex Jun 2014 #11
No doubt pipoman Jun 2014 #13
You manage a restaurant and it was the fake honey that finally turned you off of KFC? onenote Jun 2014 #30
Not to mention JanMichael Jun 2014 #15
The cornish cross they sell, and 90+% of chickens consumed pipoman Jun 2014 #18
why would there register receipts from a store closed for years?. spanone Jun 2014 #7
WTF are you talking about? LisaL Jun 2014 #8
Huh? snooper2 Jun 2014 #12
no, they checked receipts at other nearby KFCs... if i read it right... dionysus Jun 2014 #14
oops, read it wrong. spanone Jun 2014 #17
There were no receipts. See other comments. The store the grandmother named is closed, anneboleyn Jun 2014 #41
Now I have to ask treestar Jun 2014 #50
Now I need to find a new thing to be outraged about!11! progressoid Jun 2014 #22
this makes me so sad for the little girl. fuck grandma for doing this. cali Jun 2014 #24
Seriously Dorian Gray Jun 2014 #28
People often do outrageous things to get medical care for loved ones SoCalDem Jun 2014 #36
why is everyone blaming "grandma"? TorchTheWitch Jun 2014 #42
That's absolutely not true. LisaL Jun 2014 #43
well, somebody exists TorchTheWitch Jun 2014 #49
Parents are in the video. Look at post 44. LisaL Jun 2014 #52
how am I supposed to know these are her parents? TorchTheWitch Jun 2014 #57
Gramdma has said quite a bit Crabby Appleton Jun 2014 #44
As for grandpa's dogs, grandpa was actually charged with child endangerment. LisaL Jun 2014 #45
how am I supposed to know that Donald Mullins is "grandpa"? TorchTheWitch Jun 2014 #55
There is no such thing as journalism in this country...anyone can say anything... joeybee12 Jun 2014 #27
and folks on the Internet (including DU) will repeat it ad nauseum onenote Jun 2014 #31
We definitely need to be more cynical... joeybee12 Jun 2014 #33
What we need to do is check for reliable sources instead of going off half-cocked Hekate Jun 2014 #63
Few real Journalists left with common sense.They reported the fact that KFC said they knew nothing. Sunlei Jun 2014 #34
Nobody waits anymore, and the awful thing is the Repukes know this... joeybee12 Jun 2014 #39
I understand what you mean. This journalist did use all the info posted by the family in public, Sunlei Jun 2014 #53
unfortunately, some people scam for money, use kids,animals, to gain sympathy cash. The poor child! Sunlei Jun 2014 #32
They hoped KFC would roll over and pay up before doing their investigation ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2014 #37
k&r, I was taken in also. It is too bad people do that sort of crap, best wishes to the little girl uppityperson Jun 2014 #38
A woman claiming to be an aunt says the incident did occur. Archae Jun 2014 #47
Her gofundme page was taken down this afternoon Crabby Appleton Jun 2014 #48
Not surprised... Archae Jun 2014 #51
Whatever, stay out of KFC. The grease will kill you. JEB Jun 2014 #56
they have grilled chicken now also JI7 Jun 2014 #62
 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
1. Thx for posting. I wish people would double check stories before they spread them.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:47 AM
Jun 2014

Anything that sounds outrageous, just google & see if a reputable news source has the story too. They still check things out before they publish. Or, Google will show a Snopes story on an item having been circulating since 2009 or something. People have to fine tune their BS meters. There's a lot of BS out there

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
3. This story looked real until last night...
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:55 AM
Jun 2014

Even KFC fell for it. There were actual news reports about it nationwide.

The people involved faked the whole thing to try to milk free money and sympathy from the public. Nothing more than con-artists.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
16. "There were actual news reports about it nationwide."
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:23 AM
Jun 2014

That's meaningless. Media get sucked into reporting hoaxes with some frequency.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
19. Every hoax that gets spread looks real. That's why it gets spread.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:46 AM
Jun 2014

There's no evidence KFC fell for it. They might have been doing a CYA while their lawyers investigated. How many times over the years must they get people trying to flim-flam them for easy cash, do you suppose? I doubt very much they "fell" for it. And btw, what's $30K to them in exchange for the good publicity of being seen as having a heart even if they weren't liable?

I'm really just advising that people have a little healthy skepticism about what they read, before posting it to be spread all across social media.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
20. Oh, I wholeheartedly agree with that...
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 11:49 AM
Jun 2014

I was just saying that there was NO evidence to the contrary until last night. Unlike the person posting on FaceBook that Bill Gates is tracking your posts, and will give you money if you repost this obviously photoshopped picture. Heh.

LisaL

(44,962 posts)
21. There was no evidence to support it.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:14 PM
Jun 2014

Only an allegation. And KFC outlet originally blamed is not even open, and hasn't been in years.
For a press to take the story and run, without checking any details, is pathetic.
And it's no better for public to believe it on no evidence.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
23. Well, then that's on the media...
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:33 PM
Jun 2014

The general public doesn't usually read an article, then spend the next few days doing research on said article. That's why we have reporters.

I didn't jump to condemn nor support KFC when the article was first published, but sat by and waited for more evidence to come in before rushing to a conclusion. Which, apparently, was the smart thing to do.

Also, I don't live anywhere near where this was reported on, and had no way of knowing that the store in question was closed years ago. Once again, the onus is on the media.

LisaL

(44,962 posts)
25. Before msm, this allegation was posted on facebok, and general public run away with it after that.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:38 PM
Jun 2014

Cause we all know that all posts on facebook are nothing but the truth.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
26. HAHA!
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:41 PM
Jun 2014

I didn't know that's where it originated...

Which brings me back to Bill Gates tracking posts and share this image so you can get money.

A Like = 1 Prayer, A share = 100 Prayers!

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
40. Reminds me of the backwards "B" Obama girl from 2008. The media ran with that story too
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 04:38 PM
Jun 2014

despite the fact that the "B" for "Barack" that she claimed had been carved on her face by an "angry black man," who "attacked" her by an ATM machine in Pittsburgh, was drawn backwards. The media ran with the story of her "assault" by an "angry black man" (she claimed that the man was spewing pro-Obama statements). The story broke on Fox of course and was on CNN and on "news websites" like Drudge and of course speculation ran wild on free republic, including wild statements that this incident would decide the election for McCain(!) Of course the police were suspicious...and then Ashley Todd recanted her story.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Todd_mugging_hoax

This story about KFC and the incident that never happened is very disturbing indeed. The media runs wild with thoroughly unsupported nonsense that anyone can put out with a twitter account. The little girl is going to have quite enough to deal with as far as the pit bull attack scars and psychological aftermath is concerned; on top of that her relatives decide to use her to shake down a business for some sympathy money? Arrrrggggghhh.

Response to Demit (Reply #1)

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
58. This post was for another thread about an FBI manual
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:19 PM
Jun 2014

For agents with web slang in it...not sure how it ended up here? I suppose I may have misposted it, but that would be a first. Sorry for the confusion...

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
61. ok, heres the link to the FBI warnings about scams that seemed to fit this topic
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 01:14 AM
Jun 2014
http://www.fbi.gov/scams-safety/e-scams

although if one gives a 'donation' and thinks they may have been scammed, their state AG is the person to contact.
 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
2. Sadly, this will sink...
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:54 AM
Jun 2014

It's already in everyone's mind that it was real. Even KFC fell for the hoax, as they paid for surgeries.
And fellow DUers called for boycotts of KFC restaurants because of this.

It's ALWAYS best to wait for the facts.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
6. This story isn't why I will never eat at KFC again. ..
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:48 AM
Jun 2014

It is my recent discovery that they are so greedy they invented fake honey to save $.03 on my $8 meal with a food cost including real honey of less than $1.50...




Orrex

(63,083 posts)
9. Well, I can't fault your reasoning, but...
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:56 AM
Jun 2014

You probably shouldn't eat out anywhere or buy anything at retail ever again, for basically the same reason.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
10. I manage a restaurant
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 09:02 AM
Jun 2014

We make 98% of what we serve from scratch, from our ice cream to our sausage. I don't buy or serve anything I wouldn't serve my own family or guests....

Orrex

(63,083 posts)
11. Okay. Then don't eat anywhere else or buy anything at retail.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 09:10 AM
Jun 2014

I applaud your hands-on, from-scratch business model, but if we're taking KFC to task for its dubious cost:price practices, then we should bear in mind that KFC has a lot of company in this regard.

onenote

(42,373 posts)
30. You manage a restaurant and it was the fake honey that finally turned you off of KFC?
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:00 PM
Jun 2014

Why were you eating there before? Did you think it was a health food establishiment?

JanMichael

(24,846 posts)
15. Not to mention
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:07 AM
Jun 2014

the chickens that are subject to inhumane disgusting conditions--- and no, we are not "PETA," before you ask. One doesn't need to be a PETA member to not want animals subjected to that shit.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
18. The cornish cross they sell, and 90+% of chickens consumed
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:39 AM
Jun 2014

Are 4 to 6 weeks from egg to fryer. A bit off the topic of your comment, but goes to the state of the food chain.

LisaL

(44,962 posts)
8. WTF are you talking about?
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:56 AM
Jun 2014

As far as I can tell grandma never produced any registers receipts to prove she even was at KFC's.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
14. no, they checked receipts at other nearby KFCs... if i read it right...
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:03 AM
Jun 2014

none matched what grandma said they ordered...

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
41. There were no receipts. See other comments. The store the grandmother named is closed,
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 04:50 PM
Jun 2014

and the other KFC located nearby did not have any receipts from that day that matched what the grandmother stated they had ordered. Also, the KFC store's security camera footage from that day did not show this little girl and/or her relatives.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
50. Now I have to ask
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:42 PM
Jun 2014

Why grandma tried the scam using a closed store. That would soon come to light and would not work. Dumb scam

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
36. People often do outrageous things to get medical care for loved ones
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 03:16 PM
Jun 2014

She may have thought that the necessary plastic surgery would be impossible for them to afford, so she created a story that would "play well".. She was wrong to do it, but in our society, the most flamboyant stories get the most attention...and the most money too.. She is probably not one who knows how easily researched this type of story can get..

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
42. why is everyone blaming "grandma"?
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 06:35 PM
Jun 2014

The person that's been running the facebook page and donation page is the child's aunt... or so she claims. It was that person that said it was "grandma" allegedly took the girl to KFC when all of this supposedly happened. "Grandma" hasn't said a word anywhere, and we don't even know if "grandma" exists. Given that whoever it is that claims to be the child's aunt that perpetuated this hoax, why would anyone believe this already found to be false story was somehow truthful when it came to "grandma"? For that matter, why would anyone believe that the dogs that mauled the girl belonged to "grandpa" either?

Personally, I don't believe that grandma, grandpa or auntie exist, that the person perpetuating the hoax is a lot closer of a relation and also the owner of the dogs that negligently allowed a 3 year old kid unsupervised access to them just like so many other nitwits that own dangerous dogs and have young children. I find it very interesting that the parents of this child are never mentioned and that everything from the dog mauling to the hoax sites to the person perpetuating the hoax are all people that were claimed by the person perpetuating the hoax... why believe a word of anything they've said particularly when it's logical that someone perpetuating a hoax attempt to distance themselves from the victim they're taking advantage of as to who was responsible for what? Dog owner - not me, it was "grandpa"! Fake KFC story - not me, it was "grandma"! Hoax sites - not me, it was "auntie"! I don't believe a single word of what the perpetrator of the hoax says about ANYTHING about this story, therefore, I'm certainly not going to believe in invisible and silent "grandpa", "grandma" nor alleged "auntie" the perpetrator of this hoax.

For that matter, where's the original pit bull mauling story from the media? The media LOVES pit bull mauling stories especially of cute little kids.

LisaL

(44,962 posts)
43. That's absolutely not true.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 06:54 PM
Jun 2014

Grandma gave an interview. So she most certainly exists and made this claim.

“They just told us, they said, ‘We have to ask you to leave because her face is disrupting our customers,’” Mullins told WAPT-TV of the alleged May 15 incident. &quot Victoria) just cried the whole way home ... She won't look in the mirror."

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/woman-claim-kfc-kicked-3-year-old-disfigured-granddaughter-hoax-report-article-1.1841151#ixzz35bGec4VG

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
49. well, somebody exists
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:35 PM
Jun 2014

I'm certainly not going to believe it's "grandma" just because she said she was.

Still no idea where the parents are, who has custody of this girl, who made the stupid decision to leave her at "grandpa's" house that had quite a number of dangerous dogs, etc. Now "auntie" appears to be someone named Teri Rials-Bates playing the internet hoax.

Woops, the facebook page no longer exists. Neither does the donations page or the alleged auntie's personal page.

And still the media who I certainly don't trust to have checked out who the hell they talked to to positively identify them hasn't bothered to look into any more of this even after being caught with their pants down in not bothering to find out whether or not the KFC story was true.

And where are the police? These people bilked strangers with a hoax story to collect donations from them that they still have.

LisaL

(44,962 posts)
52. Parents are in the video. Look at post 44.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:58 PM
Jun 2014

Of course facebook no longer exists. That's where KFC story was first posted.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
57. how am I supposed to know these are her parents?
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:47 PM
Jun 2014

Are you getting it yet? The media can't be trusted to report this story accurately since they fucked it up so badly the first time around never bothering to find out if any of it was true. The people that say who they are can't be trusted to be telling the truth about that either since they've been found to be LIARS.

And where is the media NOW in untangling any of this story or even saying that these pages no longer exist? And of course they no longer exist because the fraudsters know they've been found out and are trying to erase their fraudulent tracks... too little, too late. Where is the media on where the money is, what charges they should be facing and where the hell the police are? What, if anything, do the parents have to do with this fraud? Why aren't they speaking up and never spoke up on the fraudster websites ever? Do the parents even have custody of the kid? Since it's their kid, why have they never said a word about anything of this either before or after? What are the parents names for heaven's sake, if they exist?

Crabby Appleton

(5,231 posts)
44. Gramdma has said quite a bit
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 06:57 PM
Jun 2014

Here she is on a WAPT TV news report 9 days ago:





I've seen grandma interview on the national Today show also.

LisaL

(44,962 posts)
45. As for grandpa's dogs, grandpa was actually charged with child endangerment.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 06:59 PM
Jun 2014

So dogs most certainly belonged to grandpa, and grandpa most certainly is not imaginary.

"Donald Mullins and his girlfriend, Rita Tompkins, were arrested and charged with child endangerment, but both are out on bond. Victoria was rushed to a Jackson hospital, where she has been undergoing numerous treatments and surgeries. She suffered several broken bones, severe facial scarring and has been having to eat using a feeding tube."
http://leader-call.com/2014/06/23/kentucky-fried-hoax/

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
55. how am I supposed to know that Donald Mullins is "grandpa"?
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:34 PM
Jun 2014

See, that's my point. I can't believe a single thing that the media says about these people even as to who they are seeing as the media never bothered to check if any of the story was real, and the perpetrators of the hoax are big fat money bilking frauds.

I have no doubt that Donald Mullins is someone with dangerous dogs that mauled the kid. But I have no way of really knowing if he's the kid's grandpa or who these other people really are since they're liars, and the media paid no attention to anything about the truthfulness of the story, therefore, I can't rely on them to have bothered to check the identities and relations of these people either. Am I supposed to believe them NOW that they appear to finally be ass covering in how fucked up their "journalism" was the first time around?

And where the hell are the police? Someone or more than one someone perpetuated a huge fraud on the public to bilk thousands of dollars in funds while blaming employees of a company for doing something horrible they never did that caused them all kinds of unwarranted grief. Where is the money? What's to happen to these fraudster thieves or thief, since we STILL don't know who exactly perpetuated this fraud? Where are this kid's parents, and do they have anything to do with it? Who negligently left that kid with someone that had dangerous and uncontrolled dogs? And why isn't the media answering these questions even now?

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
27. There is no such thing as journalism in this country...anyone can say anything...
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:44 PM
Jun 2014

And the lemmings in the press will report it ad nauseum and never bother to verify.

onenote

(42,373 posts)
31. and folks on the Internet (including DU) will repeat it ad nauseum
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:01 PM
Jun 2014

even as they decry the mainstream media that was their source.

Such is the way of the world these days.

Hekate

(90,188 posts)
63. What we need to do is check for reliable sources instead of going off half-cocked
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 02:11 AM
Jun 2014

Politicians, for instance, get quoted out of context -- their kids too -- words sliced and diced until they look like sorry excuses for Dems, much less Liberals.

But I digress.

Just -- cite your sources, people. Real ones.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
34. Few real Journalists left with common sense.They reported the fact that KFC said they knew nothing.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:26 PM
Jun 2014

That is a red-flag right there.

A real Journalist should have common sense & wait for the facts.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
39. Nobody waits anymore, and the awful thing is the Repukes know this...
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 04:32 PM
Jun 2014

Throw anything out there, and the media jumps on it just because it's controversial.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
53. I understand what you mean. This journalist did use all the info posted by the family in public,
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:09 PM
Jun 2014

in public on social media & on the gofundme website. Plus she did contact KFC & included a statement from them that they were not aware of the issue. That is really all a decent/ok journalist has to do to write a story.

I know what you mean about republicans and their fox tv station and the way they use 'press releases', paid media services to 'create an issue'.

Political campaign & pubic propaganda 24/7- that's todays republican brand, Corp. rear-kissers & scam for R votes.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
32. unfortunately, some people scam for money, use kids,animals, to gain sympathy cash. The poor child!
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:11 PM
Jun 2014

Must be very hard on the child. She is a little girl attacked by her own family's dogs.

She must have overheard 'Grandmother' speak about her injuries. Some children are burdened with terrible families.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
37. They hoped KFC would roll over and pay up before doing their investigation
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 03:38 PM
Jun 2014

There were people here who seemed upset KFC was "dragging their feet" after the claims. Well, I don't see them in this thread....

Archae

(46,260 posts)
47. A woman claiming to be an aunt says the incident did occur.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:11 PM
Jun 2014

And she just HAPPENS to be running a donation site...

On April 28, Teri Rials Bates, who describes herself as Victoria's aunt, started a GoFundMe page to help pay for medical bills, according to the website. The page has raised more than $134,000 with the goal of raising $200,000.

Rials Bates wrote on the GoFundMe page today, "I promise its not a hoax, I never thought any of this would blow up the way it has. The article circling the web calling this a hoax is untrue. The article it self say the investigation is not complete. It is not over until KFC releases a statement. The media outlet running this story is not connected with KFC. The family has not asked for anything, a attorney is handling all the media publicity for the family pro bono. Please do not believe untrue media. I have personally watched this family go without to provide for Victoria. They have not and would not do anything to hurt Victoria in any way."

Rials Bates did not respond to a request by ABC News for comment.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/family-member-mississippi-kfc-incident-hoax/story?id=24282117

Crabby Appleton

(5,231 posts)
48. Her gofundme page was taken down this afternoon
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:18 PM
Jun 2014

As has both Teri Rails Bates personal Facebook page and Victoria's Facebook page.

Archae

(46,260 posts)
51. Not surprised...
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:56 PM
Jun 2014

I'd be willing to be the "aunt" has disappeared with the $100,000 + she got from that site.

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