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kentuck

(110,916 posts)
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:05 PM Jun 2014

There is no such thing as a "lost email"

In regards to the lost emails of Lois Lerner, the Republicans are having hissy fits that her hard drive crashed and she lost all her emails. In other words, if she sent me an email, that was lost on her crashed hard drive. Howevr, it is still on my hard drive. If you sent Lois Lerner an email, your email was lost on her hard drive also. But it is still on your hard drive. The emails were not lost.

If the Republicans truly wanted to see her emails, they could check her address book and request all emails sent to those in her address book. If they truly wanted those "lost emails", they could get them fairly easy. They are not "lost".

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lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
2. That is true. The email server, the person who sent or received the email etc, those emails should
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:09 PM
Jun 2014

Be there unless they were able to erase them from all those places which is not trivial

5. Bush's People Would Know
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:27 PM
Jun 2014

The emails reside with the millions of the lost Bush emails. All the repugs have to do is find those.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
6. If they are antediluvian enough, and store the inbox on the user's PC,
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:36 PM
Jun 2014

Then her data could be lost. And of course, it could still be reconstructed from other corresponding accounts.

But that doesn't make for good sound bites, does it?

ipfilter

(1,287 posts)
7. I'm an IT guy and even for the DoD.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:37 PM
Jun 2014

It's possible to lose email but it's rare. Higher ranking people are more prone to lose it because they tend to keep it in .pst files on their PC and not store anything on the server. Most of them do this out of paranoia thinking the people in IT are reading their email. This business with the IRS chief is a little suspect but believable based on my prior experience. This timing is bad for sure.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. The point is that by not actually looking for anything the Rethugs can blow up anything found into
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:38 PM
Jun 2014

propaganda outrages, just like this one, and the lazy stenographers in the media just dutifully jot things down as if it was not so very obvious.
Pure clown train theatre, the media locates that stuff.

IcyPeas

(21,682 posts)
9. kentuck, they did do this:
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:40 PM
Jun 2014
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/24/us/questions-and-answers-on-lois-lerners-lost-emails-in-irs-scandal.html?_r=0


However, the I.R.S. says it has recovered roughly 24,000 of the missing emails from the accounts of people on the other end of Ms. Lerner’s correspondence, in addition to about 43,000 retrieved directly from Ms. Lerner’s account for the time periods not affected by her computer crash
 

DesMoinesDem

(1,569 posts)
12. Except at least 6 employees she had emailed had their hard drive crash
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 02:16 PM
Jun 2014

and they too lost their emails. LOL.

kentuck

(110,916 posts)
13. So, you think there was a conspiracy to destroy the emails?
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 02:26 PM
Jun 2014

I'm not saying it is not possible but why aren't those folks being questioned?

 

DesMoinesDem

(1,569 posts)
14. I don't know what happened or if they will be questioned
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 03:23 PM
Jun 2014

I think the probability of so many hard drives of people connected to this investigation crashing in such a small window of time is very close to zero.

kentuck

(110,916 posts)
15. I think it is all a diversion for this:
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 05:15 PM
Jun 2014
http://www.nj.com/helpinghands/nonprofitknowhow/index.ssf/2008/07/the_difference_between_501c3_a.html

<snip>
According to the Internal Revenue Service Code, 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(4) organizations are nonprofit organizations that are exempt from paying federal income tax. 501(c)(3) organizations are either a public charity, private foundation or private operating foundation with open membership whereas 501(c)(4) organizations are civic leagues or associations operated exclusively for the promotion of social welfare or local associations of employees with limited membership.
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
17. Impossible, they are lying like a bunch of assholes.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 05:24 PM
Jun 2014

NO way did 6 crash at the same time...this is just the GOP hoping their voters are THAT STUPID. And they probably are!

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
16. I've always hot-desked and logged in remotely
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 05:20 PM
Jun 2014

in my various IT and office jobs so I've never even thought that my emails could disappear if my computer crashed.

It's just never been a problem because I've used different computers and simply logged onto the network.

Cerridwen

(13,251 posts)
18. They've recovered about 24,000 emails to date
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 05:25 PM
Jun 2014

with plans to recover a total of approx. 67,000.

A couple of us are discussing it in LBN and how it's being "reported."

One of my replies: http://sync.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=832606

The OP - please be sure to read beyond the headline: http://sync.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=832580

 

LLD

(136 posts)
19. People are tired of the politics being played
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 03:17 AM
Jun 2014

Issa calling O'Connor a hostile witness as if it were a trial, but also to bash IRS. That's all it's about. Playing politics to look good for their audience and nothing more.

The definition of hostile: of or relating to an enemy. They would rather milk this, so they actually don't really care if they receive anymore emails or not. They would rather play politics bashing IRS for a vote. Do nothing congress? They seem pretty good at doing something for their own benefit.

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