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grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 03:22 PM Jun 2014

Poll: Can the US end the 1400 year old Sunni/Shia conflict by bombing Iraq now?


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Poll: Can the US end the 1400 year old Sunni/Shia conflict by bombing Iraq now? (Original Post) grahamhgreen Jun 2014 OP
We shouldn't take sides in the Iraqi situation and bombing would put us in an unfortunate lumpy Jun 2014 #1
More like the 3000 year old Babylonian/Persian conflict Coventina Jun 2014 #2
3000 years of hate. Unreal. grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #13
Yes Boudica the Lyoness Jun 2014 #3
OMG grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #6
Ha! ZombieHorde Jun 2014 #8
Agreed! Marrah_G Jun 2014 #10
It's an interesting question - bombing is the most hamfisted of ways to intervene el_bryanto Jun 2014 #4
Yes. Leave & fix problems at home before we engage in making a living Hell in the ME. grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #17
Seeing that it's a quibble over Muhammad's son vs. Muhammad's uncle... derby378 Jun 2014 #5
No. But, it won't stop them from trying if plays well in the polls. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #7
Only if we kill them all Marrah_G Jun 2014 #9
With enough bombing the conflict could be ended, but the US would need to bomb outside of Iraq. JVS Jun 2014 #11
Sure. Bomb them and they'll unite... mainer Jun 2014 #12
the first two wars didn't, but third time's the charm NightWatcher Jun 2014 #14
Only under certain very limited conditions, the primary focus must be on negotiations. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #15
3 states, everybody gets their own oil. No privatization. & we should GTFO now - grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #16
Negotiations regarding the borders and oil would have to be up to the Iraqis. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #18
Well, that will never happen, in my humble opinion:) grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #19
I believe at this point in time, each party has motivation to see this succeed Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #20
Well, they've had 1400 years to make make peace:( Not sure if they'll listen to the grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #21
For everything there is a season, England and France waged the 100 Years War on and off from Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #22

lumpy

(13,704 posts)
1. We shouldn't take sides in the Iraqi situation and bombing would put us in an unfortunate
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 03:31 PM
Jun 2014

political/religious trap.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
4. It's an interesting question - bombing is the most hamfisted of ways to intervene
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 03:42 PM
Jun 2014

is there a place between doing nothing and bombing? a strategy that would work? Probably not. Our reputation is so bad in that region that I can't see any intervention as working.

Even if the UN were to call it a humanitarian crisis and ask for nations to get involved; we'd be better off providing financial support (if that) and stay out of it. And if they did, I think people in that region would just assume that the US manipulated the United Nations.

Bryant

derby378

(30,252 posts)
5. Seeing that it's a quibble over Muhammad's son vs. Muhammad's uncle...
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 03:52 PM
Jun 2014

...let's have the Sufis choose the new Caliph. Age-old conflict solved!

Uncle Joe

(58,298 posts)
15. Only under certain very limited conditions, the primary focus must be on negotiations.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 06:10 PM
Jun 2014

Maliki will have to either resign or at the very least reform his government to become more effective and inclusive of Sunni concerns.

There is promise, the top Shia cleric in Iraq has criticized Maliki in this regard and perhaps Maliki is rethinking his governing strategy, the last time I checked he has been more silent as of late.

The only way that I see resolution is for the three main factions Shia, Sunni and the Kurds to either divide into three less volatile nations or at the very least three more autonomous zones.

I also believe the end product must include a regional resolution encompassing Syria, Turkey and Iran.

Thanks for the thread, grahamhgreen.

 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
16. 3 states, everybody gets their own oil. No privatization. & we should GTFO now -
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 06:52 PM
Jun 2014

Obviously, it's beyond our ability to solve this issue. We've only made things much, much worse.

Uncle Joe

(58,298 posts)
18. Negotiations regarding the borders and oil would have to be up to the Iraqis.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 06:57 PM
Jun 2014

I don't believe it's beyond our capability to right what we have wrecked, so long as we approach said negotiations with the Iraqi People in mind first and foremost, not ourselves nor our fossil fuel corporations.

Uncle Joe

(58,298 posts)
20. I believe at this point in time, each party has motivation to see this succeed
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:26 PM
Jun 2014

if the benefits of such an arrangement can be made clear to them.

Uncle Joe

(58,298 posts)
22. For everything there is a season, England and France waged the 100 Years War on and off from
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 09:07 PM
Jun 2014

Last edited Tue Jun 24, 2014, 09:41 PM - Edit history (1)

1337 to 1453.

Catholics have massacred Protestants, Protestants have massacred Catholics and war among nations beholding to one such faith or the other has been waged for hundreds of years.

The name "Great Satan" is not static in the Islamic world, it has only stuck because our actions over the past 70-80 years or so have given them cause to believe it, nothing says we can't begin anew.

Above all we must be sincere in our words and actions while putting the people of that region first, what's best for them?

We can offer our honest advice but we must let them decide.

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