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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 03:55 PM Jun 2014

Actor Gary Oldman takes on Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton in expletive-laced Playboy interview

Actor Gary Oldman takes on Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton in expletive-laced Playboy interview

BY HELENA ANDREWS June 24 at 1:06 PM

“I just think political correctness is crap. That’s what I think about it. I think it’s like, take a f—— joke. Get over it.”

–Actor Gary Oldman, in just about the only quote we can actually publish from a recent interview with Playboy Magazine.

Speaking about the double standard he believes exists in Hollywood, Oldman, who stars in this summer’s “Dawn of the Planet of the Apes,” told the magazine that comedians and satirists like Jon Stewart and Bill Maher could get away with calling House minority leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) a “f—ing useless c—-.”

Throughout the interview, the Oscar-nominated actor spouts myriad offensive and unprintable terms while maintaining, “it’s not like I’m a fascist or a racist. There’s nothing like that in my history.”

On a potential Hillary Clinton run for president, Oldman, who describes himself as a libertarian, echoed the sentiments of his “The Contender” character, fictional Republican congressman Shelly Runyon, who slings mud at a female candidate for vice president played by actress Joan Allen.

“He doesn’t want Joan Allen to become president; he just believes she isn’t the right person for the job,” Oldman told Playboy. “It’s nothing to do with the fact that she’s a woman, but he uses a bit of dirt on her to bring her down.”

Hmmm, Could Oldman be gunning for a new gig in opposition research?


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Actor Gary Oldman takes on Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton in expletive-laced Playboy interview (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2014 OP
Dammit. Now I have to go buy a copy of Playboy. You know, for the Interview (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2014 #1
That's rough davidpdx Jun 2014 #41
"The Contender" is a great movie wheniwasincongress Jun 2014 #2
His character in that movie always makes my blood boil... truebrit71 Jun 2014 #8
Right, Oldman's character's motivation isn't sexist at all gratuitous Jun 2014 #3
who describes himself as a libertarian? abelenkpe Jun 2014 #4
"take a f-ing joke?" Have you no conscience, Old Man? alp227 Jun 2014 #5
Perfect magazine to carry the interview, too! redqueen Jun 2014 #7
"it’s not like I’m a fascist or a racist." Yeah, you just sling vile, bigoted, misogynist insults. redqueen Jun 2014 #6
yep, same bullshit so many are flinging here, quacking like Libertarians... bettyellen Jun 2014 #35
True, he has that going for him. nt redqueen Jun 2014 #44
So Oldman just likes being rude. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #9
He is wrong, Stewart would not ever call any woman the c word. He can't even own his own bigotry.. Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #10
Oldman, take a look at your life... Blue Owl Jun 2014 #11
For the win!!! johnp3907 Jun 2014 #12
no wonder Uma dashed MFM008 Jun 2014 #13
Heh. Scurrilous Jun 2014 #40
/thread Initech Jun 2014 #43
I knew I never liked him. I thought he was awful in the remake of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. Squinch Jun 2014 #14
I never saw the original. redqueen Jun 2014 #16
It was great. Alec Guinness is just fun to watch no matter what he is doing. Squinch Jun 2014 #17
i dont know who the man is. if i cared, i guess i could google and maybe recognize him. seabeyond Jun 2014 #21
I am pop-culture challenged, so I often have that experience. Squinch Jun 2014 #22
This is him in The Fifth Element, evil and very libertarian like too! Whisp Jun 2014 #24
i went thru all his many movies. airforce one. i saw that once, what? more than a decade ago? seabeyond Jun 2014 #25
Really?!! N.Y. to Paris Jun 2014 #15
amazing how his argument parallels du's argument of the last few days. oh, that is right. he is the seabeyond Jun 2014 #18
Yeah where are the defenders of freedom and free speech and the fighters of censuring censorship? redqueen Jun 2014 #19
and OWN those words women. they are us. take the crude and vulgar, the dirty and nasty and OWN it. seabeyond Jun 2014 #20
aw, a libertarian skunk. figures! Whisp Jun 2014 #23
... nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #26
First off, Gary Oldman is a Brit. So frankly, I don't get why he's spouting off about U.S. politics. scarletwoman Jun 2014 #27
I think you mean Jon Voigt in Midnight Cowboy. Boomerproud Jun 2014 #30
Oh, wow - DUH! You're so right! scarletwoman Jun 2014 #31
ah ha. i hadnt heard anything about nolte. good to hear it is voigt. nt seabeyond Jun 2014 #32
Don't worry-I hope I didn't offend you. Boomerproud Jun 2014 #38
He lives in Malibu and is afforded all the environmental protection this State's legislature can... Tikki Jun 2014 #28
can you imagine a father using seixst slurs at will? i could never. what that has to do to our seabeyond Jun 2014 #33
Poor Gary Oldman! He can't beat up on anyone he doesn't like! He can't say the N word muntrv Jun 2014 #29
It sometimes raises Jamaal510 Jun 2014 #34
+1. ya. that. nt seabeyond Jun 2014 #36
another point not thinking this through. ultimately, there will be a time the rw uses the exact seabeyond Jun 2014 #37
Yes, and not even give a moment's thought BainsBane Jun 2014 #39
It is amazing how such good actors can be complete dicks davidpdx Jun 2014 #42

wheniwasincongress

(1,307 posts)
2. "The Contender" is a great movie
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 04:00 PM
Jun 2014

but unrealistic - Joan Allen's character is an atheist!


Gary Oldman is really showing his ass, isn't he?

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
8. His character in that movie always makes my blood boil...
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 04:09 PM
Jun 2014

....Oldman is one of a rare breed, a right-winger in Hollywood-land, and has done a very good job, up to this point, of keeping it mostly under wraps.

Not sure what set him off, but his under-belly appears to be truly unpleasant...a shame, because he is a very good actor..

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. Right, Oldman's character's motivation isn't sexist at all
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 04:03 PM
Jun 2014

Oldman's character in The Contender doesn't believe Joan Allen's character should be president, but there's not a whiff of sexism in any of it. Oldman's character just happens to latch on to an unfounded rumor that Allen's character is a slut, and uses that rumor to conclude that she's not qualified to be president, unlike divorcé and serial philanderer Ronald Reagan.

Jesus. Do these assholes even listen to themselves?

alp227

(31,943 posts)
5. "take a f-ing joke?" Have you no conscience, Old Man?
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 04:06 PM
Jun 2014

Ohh, I think I must have hurt his feewings the way I wrote his last name. But besides, if I went up to him and called him "Old Man" this fake ass "politically incorrect" tough guy would NOT take the joke huh?

Hey Old Man, why don't you take a trip to DC and insult Pelosi to her face instead of hiding behind a paywalled magazine interview?

redqueen

(115,085 posts)
7. Perfect magazine to carry the interview, too!
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 04:08 PM
Jun 2014

“The notion that Playboy turns women into sex objects is ridiculous. Women are sex objects. If women weren’t sex objects, there wouldn’t be another generation. It’s the attraction between the sexes that makes the world go ‘round. That’s why women wear lipstick and short skirts.” - Hugh Hefner

redqueen

(115,085 posts)
6. "it’s not like I’m a fascist or a racist." Yeah, you just sling vile, bigoted, misogynist insults.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 04:07 PM
Jun 2014


There are plenty on DU who agree with this guy's point about what hate speech about women should be considered socially acceptable.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
35. yep, same bullshit so many are flinging here, quacking like Libertarians...
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:59 PM
Jun 2014

at least Gary isn't faking being a progressive. At least he's honest about being a sexist POS.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
9. So Oldman just likes being rude.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 04:12 PM
Jun 2014

What Libertarians call "political correctness" my mother always taught me was "politeness".

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
10. He is wrong, Stewart would not ever call any woman the c word. He can't even own his own bigotry..
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 04:17 PM
Jun 2014

he has to falsify someone else to suggest his behavior is just grand.

What an ass.

MFM008

(19,763 posts)
13. no wonder Uma dashed
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 04:37 PM
Jun 2014

after only 2 years of marriage. I respect the guys acting skills, he needs to pretend he is a more loving character and method act it in real life.

Squinch

(50,672 posts)
14. I knew I never liked him. I thought he was awful in the remake of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 04:41 PM
Jun 2014

Wooden and boring. Guinness's performance was genius, so Oldman's really showed up badly in comparison.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
21. i dont know who the man is. if i cared, i guess i could google and maybe recognize him.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 06:57 PM
Jun 2014

k, i will. but meh...

on edit... and still i do not recognize him. pos bottomfeeder.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
25. i went thru all his many movies. airforce one. i saw that once, what? more than a decade ago?
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:11 PM
Jun 2014

he does not make the movies i watch anyway.

was funny saying, no no no no no.... thru out the many movies.

thanks whisp

N.Y. to Paris

(110 posts)
15. Really?!!
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 04:50 PM
Jun 2014

Man, how could such a gifted actor be so full of shit?!! The mind reels.....
He's calling Nancy useless, and he's okay with Boehner?
Gary, babe, seek some professional help...please!

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
18. amazing how his argument parallels du's argument of the last few days. oh, that is right. he is the
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 06:36 PM
Jun 2014

bigot. we are the good guys.

redqueen

(115,085 posts)
19. Yeah where are the defenders of freedom and free speech and the fighters of censuring censorship?
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 06:43 PM
Jun 2014

Where are the DUers who also think that political correctness has gone too far?

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
20. and OWN those words women. they are us. take the crude and vulgar, the dirty and nasty and OWN it.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 06:45 PM
Jun 2014

lmFUGGINao before even typing that shit all the way out. our professional political women being told to own the ugly.

fug

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
27. First off, Gary Oldman is a Brit. So frankly, I don't get why he's spouting off about U.S. politics.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:21 PM
Jun 2014

Last edited Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:56 PM - Edit history (1)

But he's been living in the U.S. since sometime in the early 90s, so I guess he somehow feels entitled to expressing his opinion about our politicians. Too bad.

I'm saddened to see this, since I've long considered him one of the most brilliant actors ever.

This comes down to the longstanding dilemma of whether one can separate the personal character of the artist from his/her body of art. I think of Jon Voigt as a particularly salient example of this - I will always appreciate his indelible performance in "Midnight Cowboy" - and no amount of knowing that he's a thoroughly right wing nut job will ever change my appreciation of that.

And as someone who was involved in theater in my younger years, I came across more instances than I can count of actors who performed exquisitely in roles as upright, honorable, appealing characters who were absolute jerks when you got to know them in real life. Actors are chameleons, and so many of them can take on all sorts of personas without in the least being anything like those personas in their true selves.

So, I'm sorry to find out that Gary Oldman is apparently one of those jerks - but I can't be surprised by it. I'll still appreciate his brilliance as an actor.

Edited to fix a glaring error - I originally cited Nick Nolte instead of Jon Voigt as the star of Midnight Cowboy. My thanks to the poster below who pointed out my error!

Boomerproud

(7,874 posts)
30. I think you mean Jon Voigt in Midnight Cowboy.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:50 PM
Jun 2014

That's okay, they look somewhat alike, but your point is about Voigt's political views and you are correct about him being a right-wing nut job.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
31. Oh, wow - DUH! You're so right!
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:54 PM
Jun 2014

I can only plead senility! Hope it won't look like cheating if I edit my post!

Tikki

(14,532 posts)
28. He lives in Malibu and is afforded all the environmental protection this State's legislature can...
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:30 PM
Jun 2014

make available.

He might prefer living along the Gulf Coast where he can shake hands with the oil company execs that will
glisten his front yard with such a nice sheen for free.

I know he has children; I hope if he has daughters they will find self-esteem, somewhere.


Tikki

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
33. can you imagine a father using seixst slurs at will? i could never. what that has to do to our
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:59 PM
Jun 2014

girls.

you just made me think that one thru.

muntrv

(14,505 posts)
29. Poor Gary Oldman! He can't beat up on anyone he doesn't like! He can't say the N word
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:42 PM
Jun 2014

or the C word without consequence!

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
34. It sometimes raises
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:59 PM
Jun 2014

red flags for me whenever I hear somebody whine about "political correctness". It gives me the impression that the person is mad that they can't say backwards-sounding stuff without being criticized for it.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
37. another point not thinking this through. ultimately, there will be a time the rw uses the exact
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 09:05 PM
Jun 2014

same words. now what does the person do? decry the "ism"? slink away? or be a hypocrite and say... this is different.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
42. It is amazing how such good actors can be complete dicks
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:15 PM
Jun 2014

and of course Oldman isn't the only one. Thank god I don't ever pay to see movies.

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